BigBlue Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 We lost the battle of the trenches. We could not put pressure on Masoli and if I am seeing straight, we did not come close to regularly threatening him with a sack ( I think we managed one). When Hammy ran the ball we looked rather porous. Our vaunted front 7 looked rather "below average" as defences go. On the other side of the ball, we were not giving Streveler that extra second to find a receiver finally shaking coverage. He was under constant pressure that led to 10 straight 2 and outs. Neufeld was not making the same holes that Travis Bond was famous for. We could mount no sustained running attack, even with Andrew Harris busting a gut. Ritchie's defensive back placement sucked. There is no other word for it. His umbrella, as usual, was too deep and Masoli feasted on multiple open receivers underneath. By way of contrast Hamilton played our receivers quite tight. Streveler did not have time for his receivers to work their way open. Ritchie's bend- don't-break defence was a feast for the Tiger Cats. Maurice Leggett has no business returning kickoffs, unless we want to be regularly scrimmaging at the 20 yard line instead of the 35 or 40. That experiment has failed and it made a significant difference to field position. Streveler was "tempered" instead of being allowed to lead. He does not need training wheels. He is an improviser that can make things happen. Instead he was left inside of Lapo's tightly controlled offence. Let the "stars" shine... PLEASE See how he did in the last couple drives (albeit against a prevent defence). I believe he could have done same thing in the 2nd and 3rd quarters. We can influence Lapo and replace Ritchie. But why we lost the battle of the trenches: I am not sure. Was it scheme? Was it attitude or overconfidence? Was it personnel? Coaching? I don't have the slightest idea except that I keep hearing how talented we are. That talent didn't show up tonight. Maybe we came in overconfident and resting on our laurels, not waking up until it was too late. We are certainly outclassed by Hamilton. I tip my hat to them, but tonight only. Tracker and blitzmore 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernSkunk Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 They may have won the trench thing......but I gotta ask do they even call holding anymore in the CFL..... Starman115 and Albertabomberguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Two out of three games WPG pass defense has been carved up. First thing to fix. NorthernSkunk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Rushing 6 and 7 into a max protect of 7 down after down is just beyond pointless. DB's can't cover the whole field, you're either giving away deep throws or short throws. That's why LB's are part of coverage too. Hopefully the open spots on the field are the furthest from the QB so he has to be accurate and have time to get the ball there. If it's a short throw, hopefully the window is small so the QB has to be accurate. So pointless to blitz if you can't get there, and you make it predictable so they are literally scheming for it. Just useless. Masoli was literally throwing into 30 yards of field and the receiver would just run under it, catch the ball and then turn up for the next 5-6 yards for the first. There's no deception in this defense and that makes it incredibly easy to beat. BBlink, blitzmore, Tracker and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlue Posted June 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Ths Bombers got called on twi holds I thought were highly interpretative by the zebras .... just because your block goes down doesn't mean he was held .... cost a 33 yarder by Harris and caused a drive to stall ... two big difference makers when we were driving to score Starman115, Colin Unger, NorthernSkunk and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 1 minute ago, BigBlue said: Ths Bombers got called on twi holds I thought were highly interpretative by the zebras .... just because your block goes down doesn't mean he was held .... cost a 33 yarder by Harris and caused a drive to stall ... two big difference makers when we were driving to score No the Chungh hold is a hold. You can't stop moving your feet and hip toss the DL. Mark F, TBURGESS, Yourface and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb1 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Add to this we have a Qb that is in his 3rd game of the year! We have to have patience with him...its taken Masoli 6 years to get where he is. And he hasn't won anything yet to prove he is a next level Qb ethier. Masoli has gotta do this all year and get the Tabbies in the playoffs before i put him in that zone. Nickthesizz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) We lost because rushing 4 gets no pressure, when we blitz we still can't get there, our secondary is playing a soft zone most of the time and get beat, then in man to man they get beat, our safety is never in good position to do anything,our offence has a fiery qb with little experience but is learning, Bowman and Adams are not up to speed ,but mostly we lost because the Ti-Cats scored more points. Edited June 30, 2018 by bustamente blitzmore, NorthernSkunk and Tracker 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Negatron Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 We lost because for the third year in a row our defense is hot goat balls. Mike, Eternal optimist, TheSource and 5 others 3 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Hall is done....as long as we hold on to incompetent coaching we will suffer the consequences...The talent on D is there...Subpar performance Ritchie...time to hang em up...And please nobody try to say it isn't the coach who is out there making the plays...Tired of that one....The proof was all out there for everyone to see tonight and Hall can't hide anymore Mark F, BigBlueFanatic and Yourface 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublezero Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said: No the Chungh hold is a hold. You can't stop moving your feet and hip toss the DL. The stupid thing about the Chungh hold is that is was on a delayed draw. So the smart thing would have been to let the defender through rather than block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublezero Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) We lost because players made too many undisciplined and foolish mistakes on both sides of the ball. And we were out-schemed - out-coached. Also, Masoli might be the best QB in the league. Edited June 30, 2018 by Doublezero DR. CFL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal optimist Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 I think we lost because the other team scored more points. ALuCsRED 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBlink Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 If the defense could make a stop in the 2nd or 3rd quarter maybe our rookie qb could get some traction. Being held off the field for 5 minutes at a time is tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O2L Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Richie Hall. Nickthesizz and Floyd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Stickem said: Hall is done....as long as we hold on to incompetent coaching we will suffer the consequences...The talent on D is there...Subpar performance Ritchie...time to hang em up...And please nobody try to say it isn't the coach who is out there making the plays...Tired of that one....The proof was all out there for everyone to see tonight and Hall can't hide anymore Coach will protect Hall. He won't throw him under the bus. Next game & every game after that we'll give up huge yards vs the pass. Things won't change. Tracker and TheSource 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Classic Richie Hall game. Lapo overthinking... Neufeld is what he is... TheSource and wbbfan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABomberfan Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 His defensive playbook and defensive play calling are even worse than Marcel Bellefeuille's were on offense. No adjustments whatsoever, and no bad MLB to blame it on either. A thief and a liar has been allowed to be our DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 11 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said: Rushing 6 and 7 into a max protect of 7 down after down is just beyond pointless. DB's can't cover the whole field, you're either giving away deep throws or short throws. That's why LB's are part of coverage too. Hopefully the open spots on the field are the furthest from the QB so he has to be accurate and have time to get the ball there. If it's a short throw, hopefully the window is small so the QB has to be accurate. So pointless to blitz if you can't get there, and you make it predictable so they are literally scheming for it. Just useless. Masoli was literally throwing into 30 yards of field and the receiver would just run under it, catch the ball and then turn up for the next 5-6 yards for the first. There's no deception in this defense and that makes it incredibly easy to beat. what is really stupefying is that we just kept trying it over and over and over. at some point you gotta go ouch that element is hot im gonna try some thing else rather then keep touching it. but nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 9 hours ago, Eternal optimist said: I think we lost because the other team scored more points. Interesting concept....but more analysis could be needed...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 5 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Coach will protect Hall. He won't throw him under the bus. Next game & every game after that we'll give up huge yards vs the pass. Things won't change. I believe james stanley is here in part to take up the reigns of DC mid season if needed. Kinda like plop being ast HC and oc when mos was on the hot seat before turning the ship around. I could see young and younger as guys groomed to be dcs eventually as well. more and more the only thing left resembling the richie hall D is the stink of bend but dont break. 2 hours ago, Floyd said: Classic Richie Hall game. Lapo overthinking... Neufeld is what he is... Soo true. If our D plays competently lapo over thinking becomes a minor issue. Neuf idk how the guy sticks around. even with the right passport. He is beyond lousy even at guard. We gotta do some thing to get foketi in at guard, or take our lumps with the other younger nucks and let em develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 It would be interesting to hear the conversation between O'Shea and Hall going over game tape. Im sensing a lot of D players are being inserted under the bus and not his schemes/adjustments. Probably a-lot of 'I drew it for them to be in a position of success, they didn't execute'. Classic coach statement when the heat is on. Sometimes its actually true but in this case excuses are running thin for coach based on his body of work over the last few years. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABomberfan Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 34 minutes ago, wbbfan said: what is really stupefying is that we just kept trying it over and over and over. at some point you gotta go ouch that element is hot im gonna try some thing else rather then keep touching it. but nope. Which is why he is worse than Bellefeuille wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 The most interesting part of the mic'd up game was when they caught osh on the sidelines b4 the half talking in to his head set telling hall hamilton is gonna try to fn score. Osh was pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolby Posted June 30, 2018 Report Share Posted June 30, 2018 Hamiltons max protection on almost every offensive play was the main factor in why we lost. Our d line and blitzes were ineffective and masoli had way too much time to rip apart out cushy defence. ddanger and DR. CFL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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