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Could be. Elsbury has been struggling more with the snap the past month or so, this could be why as well. They have no problems starting a turnstyle at C, but when the snaps go wild they pull the plug. Kola was doing the same last year. Either way, I will be watching Eli at C closely as well as the rest of the ol play as always. I won't be surprised if I see a good improvement right away.

strevelers broken ankle too. soo many examples it’s pretty sad tbh

I mean, out side of 1/2 years our cos haven’t been great. Hall had a great playoff stretch in 18/19 and year in 21, but that was also the peak of the fire hall movement. Jy had two very good stretches of games with in 24/25. Buck had a couple good extended stretches of games here in 21/22. Lapo had more bad games than good here by far. Really, they did stick their heads in the sand and try to do the same stuff. That’s why no one was sad to see lapo or buck go. Jy, Hall, and even Etch all ran variations on the same concept. Halls D this year is far closer to what etch ran than what any one else has done in the league since he left. The big difference with hall is he ran 4/5 pressure with one lber joining some times, using that guy to get 1on1s with higher tier front concepts to get pressure before deep balls could land. Jy, will add 1 db to that while showing and dropping more frequently with less front concepts, and etch used bizarre pre snap alignments to try and hide the rushers and coverage rotation. We went from lapo with rb screens/ jets offsetting izr with at the line screens, to buck using more btl screens and jet variations off izr, to hogan/tc struggling to execute any thing but leaning on the same screens and izr. Both sets of COs are like photocopiers that have run lower and lower on ink. I agree talent isn’t the primary limiting factor, but it is certainly a limiting factor. We simply don’t have the talent on ol, lber, a few db spots, and half the dl. Not to mention some of the worst wr talents in the league. In game coaching is the fastest way to improve this team, and that alone could make it a team fighting for a home play off spot. But the upper brass either can’t or won’t pick winners at the co spots.

Same reason we played zach with his finger hanging off in a gc, or big stan when after he collapsed, paddy when he was badly hurt a couple years ago, brady and harris at times they could barely walk little on run. If the player is willing to play, mos assumes they will perform at the same level as if they are 100%. this has happened more times then i can count. Schoen played through two season ending injuries plus a career ending one. No different then how mos refuses to accept that any player degrades in performance with age.

Without question, we need a shake-up at every level of this organization. At this point, as long as it includes TC, Idc who all go specifically.

I would say the only coaches who have had careers with one team, in any sport, and continued to excel either did change or they coached in an era with little to no innovation. The sad thing is the CFL hasn't even innovated in the mafia era. We've regressed; we don't do half of the things we used to, and do very little well of the holdover.

On one hand I like having Griffin back in the wil pack position. If that replaces the dreaded kelly 2S pack, we will be in a great spot. That said, we've seen the starting secondary isn't good enough and we need some shaking up. On the DL, Ceresna should sit imo. He clearly wasn't 100% last week. He made 1 tackle and 0 noticeable plays. Same thing in the week before when he got nicked up vs. Toronto. I like seeing 8 dl on the roster than we can run out there for some package or another. But man we need to go get a couple DTs, maybe some fresh DE blood too. Fletcher barely plays and is completely ineffective when he plays inside. Makes no sense to me to start Eli and have Elsbury back up. Maybe he could be good in the heavy set on the edge with his speed and being certain he will play someone much smaller on the snap. But that is a pretty limited-value use out of a DI. Why the hell wouldn't we just throw on Vanterpool in that case? Or Vibert and use the DI elsewhere?

Thing is, we have had similar issues for 5 OCs in a row, plus 3 DCs. The difference is talent, but we've seen all the same issues. At some point, it's an upper brass failure, not the CO. Be it micromanaging the system, roster management, or hiring decisions. I don't have any faith that this group will do any better with OC no 6, and DC no 3.

I will say that I think Eli has been playing injured most of this year. We've used him far less then we usually do, the least since he's been up here. Could be he's just finally 100%, that said Logic isn't an oft used tool when it comes to roster management.

https://3downnation.com/2026/10/08/zach-collaros-wants-to-continue-cfl-career-in-2027/ Some one has to save zach from him self, and the mafia from them self. We are on the verge of missing the play offs and i get this sick feeling we might once again run it back with the group that hasn’t gotten it down for years

Short? check not productive? check slow? ran a 4.9 40 on laser, check. Should be starting for us soon

bailey went through the same stint. it does happen and for a guy who started soo fast as a rookie it’s not surprising to see a drop off. Wilson hasn’t been good enough, but it’s not like we have a better option or like we should throw the baby out with the bath water. We should be bringing in guys and have competition for wr spots. That would help raises the over all level of play. The wrs have all struggled and some of that is the other failings of the offence making things worse. I’m not crazy about wilson, but he’s a very good player with a high ceiling. Hes been the worst of the imp wrs this year, but we have been starting 2 canadians who haven’t performed at all.

you can look back and check with references to hurl, kuale, jake thomas and more. It has been a staple for years, and has never been fixed. 21 was the year sheed couldn’t catch a cold, we started out with legs missing every kick possible, the grouping of jake and too many snaps from gauthier and briggs had us getting gashed by the run until stove got healthy. 22 was the brady vs augustine constant controversy, tyquan glass cartwright and a couple other bad dbs. Yes mos instilled a great culture and high level of character in this team. It’s rose colored glasses to say that’s all that was talked about. i’m both pro sports, football and the cfl. but eventually all good things must come to an end. I think the only way one is still here in 3 years is if the other is made the goat, and before the beginning of the next year.

isn’t one that I see. I’d say 15-20% today, but that it doubles if we lose to calgary next. that’s for a mafia level personnel change, i’d say it’s double for a co. Between now and the week after the gc, I think we will see some kind of news. I also think it’s as likely that one of the mafia fall on their sword for the other two, rather than just a firing.

Long ago tbh. Third GC game they talked about that. I’d say right after the 21 gc. Make no mistake, all these problems existed before both gc wins. It has been shouted from the roof too by booch, my self and others. We are right back to where we sat before the gc wins but too old to grow. D cor inconsistent performances, poor tackling and execution, too soft zone and a scheme that breaks too frequently. Dl that can’t consistently disrupt or stop the run. Married to vet imps who don’t get it done, and playing way too many mediocre canadians. Kelly is just the most recent in the hurl lineage. Review the fire hall thread and see all the same things people say about jy now. The O is only consistently able to go 2 and out. Can’t protect the qb, wrs can’t win 1on1s, great rb floundering with a bad system and ol. Over investment and reliance on teams to win us games. Bad roster management, poor systems, installs, adjustments, execution and fundamentals. The difference is that this team doesn’t have any discipline any more. That 21 team has hits feet up and chilling before the start of the 4th in most games. They could’ve hung crazy numbers if they wanted. Once stove came back, that 21 team had no holes in it.