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pretty much average usage in an outlier year league wide. Lots of injuries to qb 1s, idk if any qb3 seriously stepped up. some teams like edm had poor qb play and flipped between two guys. Has wilson had a great opportunity? no. has he had opportunities? yes. has he shown any growth, no. Is the whole league drowning in poor qb play, oh hell yes. Any good/easy answer for a qb2? nope.

Or in swapping if we are late in a blow out

Sure. These are the drop-back snaps for QBs who were the QB3 overall or at some point. BC, Masoli had 91, Brice had 4. Cal, walker 66, vaughn 32, love 8 Edm, snider 0 Ham, Dole 0, powell 9 Mtl, Morgan 98, Evans 37, Dukes 2 Ott, Adams 69, Shiltz 57 Sask, Coan 9 To, Duggan 20, Horn 14 Again, Wilson had 26. Pretty bad for sure. Bellefeuille was a chunk better than hogan still imo. Wr core, bit of a push imo.

According to PFF, 68 snaps last year, 28 drop-back snaps. 24 of his snaps were designed run, keeper, kneel, etc. It also lists him as having 2 "big time" throws and 3 turnover-worthy plays. In 24, he had 6 drop-backs, 24 designed runs, on 40 total snaps with 1 turnover-worthy play. I don't put any value other than crude entertainment on their own metrics, but as a fun fact, Wilson was their worst rated qb and worst-rated passer in the whole league last year. They had Wilson as a 42.2 overall and 29.9 as a passer vs strevy at 62.2 and 57.4. They only had strev as the 9th-worst passer and 15th worst qb. Which seems wildly inaccurate, and deeply depressing at the same time. Im not sure a clear downgrade exists from Hogan, strev, those wrs/ol.

I mean, even pre-season and tc I didn't see a click moment from him. The offence was awful last year and not a lot better last year. We could really use a QB coach in camp. I hate that we don't have one. Bring in a guy like Masoli as a player-coach to sit on the IR, itd make a big difference. I'm not sold that he has poise; instead of just lacks pocket awareness. He has tons of arm talent, but man, his window is really small now. He also had 2 years in the USFL before coming here. As a qb you really have to show something after that many pro camps. (1 nfl with the cowboys, 2 usfl, 2 cfl) He had 1 good year in juco, and kicked around 3 solid programs before/after with out significant success. Basically, a pretty good HS kid, with 1 good juco year, and a lot of bouncing. That type of history, especially in a higher 3-star prospect in both juco and HS, should rise quickly. And he just hasn't. I'm good with Wilson being in camp, but he should be on thin ice. He needs to take a step forward and act fast to earn a spot. I like Perkins upside too, with him it'll all come down to how quickly he adapts to the Canadian game. He's pretty late in life for a QB coming up here. Thorne is a solid prospect, too. If the ball gets out of his hand quickly enough against pros, he could have some success. It's a bad position to be in, no back up qb with any level of productivity in the CFL. The QB market is ugly, and our QB room is one of the most challenged in the league. I thought both extended in montreal? Maybe I'm crazy. Wouldn't be the first time we took an easy recirculation type guy.

Terry Wilson, at this point, is no further along than any rando 1 year guy, or most rookies out of camp imo. 2 TCs and he hasn't shown progress after just having turned 28. I think if you bring Wilson into camp, he has to have a short leash. He'd really need to win reps in the first preseason game. QB is the one position we will go into camp worse off at. Zach is a year older, Strev is toast, no one else has progressed behind him, as we never successfully replaced Brown as a back up qb. Even if Elgersma signs, I think he's a year away from being more than a qb3 at least. Perkins has a mountain of work to do adjusting to the CFL game. Maybe Perkins catches on fast, or Elgersma catches lightning in a bottle, or some other miracle befalls one of the other QBs, but that would be in camp. Till then, we have a huge ? mark. I think our backup plan is going to be Montreal. Davis is their guy, and I think they like Morgan a lot. Which leaves one of Evans and Patterson on the outside looking in. One of them gets cut, or maybe we work a trade if camp goes poorly. After that, it's the likes of what remains of MBT/Masoli, or even worse, the pest. If Zach gets hurt in camp/pre-season, we are beyond screwed. More than 2 and out check downs too.

Ah thanks. Yeah it's a pita to keep track of availability from the tampering window on for a bit. Good pick up for them. I do agree, we won't be doing much for a while. I think we might dive back into the frey if things stretch out with the guys who are left. The only real advantage to publically saying we are out of FA, like walters basically did, is pushing a final deal or two imo. Really dont want him at this point. The QB class is extremely bad for experienced guys, but he's low on the short list of bad options. I don't expect us to make a satisfactory move at qb tbh.

I have a bad feeling that we will end up bringing in mayor McCheese just to spite all the trash we’ve talked about him lol

Wrs, I believe these are what’s left: Rambo, bridges, daniel’s, henry, addison, rhymes, gittens and robustelli. Of those guys, rambo, robustelli, and bridges would be great combinations of value and fit. Rhymes and Gittens are likely out side of our price range. Rambo is my favorite of those 3, but who ever will come in to fight for a spot and do the dirty stuff at a good price would be best. For pass rushers i’m including 40 ends, 3-4 ends and 3techs. We have the coaching staff and pieces to move guys around and capitalize on disruption from any where. Shane ray is the coveted guy remaining, probably out of our price too. Cox from the riders is very under valued imo, Lanier could flourish is more limited reps he might help flip our DLs soft personality and push our culture there, Mauldin is a reclamation project but a guy who can elevate camp as a mercenary needing to take a job. Of those guys, I’d really like cox, mauldin or lanier. Cox is the best player to step in for sure. Onyenka would be a real nice depth/teams fit, especially if we don’t manage to draft some one who can play. We could also go and look at the guys from the past 2 years drafts and haven’t gotten a chance or enough reps. We’ve had a couple good trades sending picks for guys like that. For guys like that, Ojo, brubacher, okpoko, Newell, harris, hubert, hergot, ageli, or von muehldorfer. Some of those guys are teams dudes who you need to polish into limited rep use. Some are guys who can get after the qb in limited reps, but you should polish into more useful teams/back end roster guys. Of those I like Newell, Brubacher, Von muehldorfer and silas hubert. Our dl is soo thin, we need talent, especially canadian talent. We have a starter and no guy who is a starter if he goes down.

So for the final phase of free agency, ideally we get a vet qb, imp wr, and pass rusher or two. The qb group is ugly, pass rusher group has some upside but lots of question marks, wr group has some solid gambles for depth too.

a certain coaches wife… shoot if we fed mos a couple beers the show would actually be worth listening to, guarantee it’d get entertaining.

I DO have some very valuable inside, privy-type info. When going to the privy, doing so inside is waaaay better than outside. You may find that controversial, but it is entirely true. In general, I don't like that insider info type of thing. 99% of the time, it's BS. 1-2 people on here do get some, but the nature of football is that you might get it, and it might be true. Then, 2 weeks later, it changes. If it's a week-old bit of info, it could go south very fast. Because I'm not involved in the follow ups, I generally disregard inside info. People would be surprised by some of the types who lurk on here, or the relationships a few posters have with players, coaches, etc. I can speak to that from personal experience, and for an absolute fact. What people tell them with those relationships, I can't speak to.

He's one of those guys every team in the league should consider. It's like when we basically got Biggie by default after his NFL stint. Everyone else didn't have money or a spot, so we offered a princely deal on a real up-and-comer team, but the competition for him was beyond light. That was a brutal mistake by the rest of the league, as he came back and was one of the very best defensive players for a couple of years. His versatility was a keystone to our D, just like BA going to S later on. Ever team should kick the tires on him.

probably. If we carry a di it’ll probably be an ol lol.

Its going to be hard that is for sure. Unless we shift kramdi and start woodbey. Or move on from ayers. Dead on with the DIs.