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“I’m a little Kolo, short and stout. I’ve reached the ceiling, please take me out. When I get a bull rush, hear me shout. Tip me over, it’s 2 and out” Me- July 20, 2023. Almost a year later and Eli is STILL sitting What a joke.

Osh looking at his closet in the morning: "They are all starters"

Only silver lining on this start that I can see is that if there is a time of year to get your ass kicked and flaws exposed this is it. Cups are often won by the team that gets hot late in the year (see 2019, 2022, 2023)

on a positive note with the loss....a crappy undeserved win would have glossed this over and 100 percent would have been reason enough to change absolutely nothing....so there is a silver lining there Mason Bennett...Jonathon Kongbo....Tre Thomas even....

My concern with O'Shea is that he thinks he has the winning formula and he'll never realize/admit that the formula has changed.

Still down only 5......can salvage if this O wakes the hell up..

Our O line is the weakest it's be for years

Staggerville

Changing the culture of a team is tough. Kudos to O'Shea (and Walters), for doing that. Four straight Grey Cup appearances. Can't take that away from O'Shea. Next toughest thing is knowing when to move on from some of the veterans in order to maintain that competitive, yet supportive culture. O'Shea is failing at that. One of his mistakes is thinking the "culture" is the veterans. It's not. Thinking that he has to hang on to Thomas, Neufeld, Biggie, even Collaros to some extent, to maintain the culture. It's Blue Bombers football. Like Patriots football, or Celtics basketball. Like you said, Mathews would have cut a vet. Belichick let players go all the time. Loyalty isn't about letting a player tell you when they want to stop playing. Sometimes it's about thanking them, respecting them, honoring their contributions, but telling them it's time to move on.

MIKE O'SHEA FIRED That's right, Mike O'Shea is fired up to come out in week 3 and prove everyone wrong

So @Mike is banned from starting game day threads and its next man up, correct?

by looking at some of the problems Zach started to show last year and taking a bold move.... you save a pile in salary and get younger... Collaros at best had a couple seasons left in him. Brown outplayed him last year (albeit in extremely limited time). I think it was a bold move that could have paid off because you could likely parlay Collaros in the offseason into a big return.

Garbage series goal to go. No need to go to endzone on first down. Collaros throws a duck and Schoen doesn't attack it 2nd down. OL blows it 3rd down.

In the last 3 years, having the ball on the 7 with a minute to go needing a TD, was a guaranteed win for us. This year, against a bottom dweller with 2 rookie corners, we couldn't get it done. Last week, I blamed the loss on lack of practices for the vets & lack of TC playing time. I expected a full week of practice to change a lot, but it really didn't. Our O line was man handled. Our receivers dropped some balls. Collaros threw 2 picks, 0 TD's and 123 of his 285 yards were on two huge plays. The D gave up 130 yards rushing & 35 minutes TOP. DB's played better than last week. Note that this was against a first year starting QB who had only thrown 150 CFL passes. I'm pretty worried about next week against the Lions. An 0-3 start would be horrible if we want to be #1 in the West.

So then why did you start handing out participation trophies? Kids weren't giving them to themselves ya know, it was the parents' idea! Lousy boomers!

To be fair that aligned with the majority of the retained roster getting raises. Kongbo got premium starter cash and wasn’t a starter and desjarlais got crazy money. I don’t blame Walter’s for losing those two. If I blame Walter’s for any thing it’s not reigning in mos rosters and cuts.

Hard to tell if that’s Myron Mitchell trying to hit the seam in a return or Ontaria Wilson trying to catch a pass.

Was it me or was the ball slow getting to Schoen on second down allowing the HB to make an excellent play?

Game on! 15 minutes from now!

Gary Crowton or Manny Matsakis? They have a couple months before high school starts again.

All the leash in the world. Who are you going to replace him with? You expect Streveler to be more effective as a passer the way the interior line is getting caved in? Good luck. Worst thing this team did was letting Dru Brown out the door.

That’s all @Atomic However … We are constituting a rule here where all future references to Mr. Wheatfall must refer to him as Lord Keric. Thank you -Management

Piss poor call by the refs to call that a catch.

What makes you say that?

End of an era boys

Bc here next. Oof I don’t even want to think about losing that game. I’d rather eat crow than shi!

Cant wait until we win 16 straight and every bum here is eating CROW!!!

you can tell though that Oshea feels bighill and jefferson and collaros and alexander are still the same guys they were. In my opinion they had the bodies in camp this year to make some changes and just didn't... seeing how well a guy like adams has stepped in and been arguably the teams best player through 2 games tells me they just made the wrong call on a lot of guys in preseason.

they def need to shake it up...throwing Dobson..ELI ...Wallace and shift Heuf out to tackle would serve us betterright now.....even Neuf and Lofton as is with a new center would do wonders....will we see it tho? If we had a 7...8 man roation up front tho....we prob would have slowed their run game down...gave Dru all kinds of issues and won....We basically gave another game away....I sure they know Mitchell is not returner...yet we still trot him out....when ZC is struggling...refuse to sit him for even just a series.....our coaching needs to be better....

Sorry you’re mad that we are right

Bad roster. Bad coaching. Against all odds we had a chance to win it and pissed it away. This is not a good football team right now, and we aren't a move or two away from being one either.

I'd be mad but we won 2 cups with this group. We just held on too long. What can you do. I mean lots of folks said dont lose Brown, but here we are.

Nickle and dime them for the most part...that be the smart plan

Yep Brown would be in the same situation - however has the mobility to get out of those situations or could be more effective if the team were to utilize a moving pocket to reduce the effectiveness of a pass rush. I won't chirp Zach (even if the line wasn't an issue) - Two Grey Cups after the drought we had, but given his age and Brown's age, plus the promise Brown showed at various points, Brown should have been kept, even if it meant letting Zach go in the off-season.

MOS likely gets the year, Would be shocked to see him fired mid year.

Fire him, hire booch. If the season is going down anyway I want maximum entertainment

Ottawa kind of does too.

I would put Eli At centre today if I could

Absolutely brutal. From the best o-line to whatever the hell this is.

Efing refs costing us a challenge because of their incompetence.

Trap. He stops it ON THE TURF

I think Kramdi is having a solid game

This both sucks and blows.

Jefferson starting to check out.

Willie just completely gives up there

I don’t care about the eyeroll emojis I’m gonna get from a few of the folks here. I’d fire O’Shea tomorrow. This is pathetic.

They told him the next play would be a turnover anyways.

Don't like to mock an injured player but man, the football gods sure got Stubblefield for twisting Streveler's ankle. Stubblefield moaning that he isn't that kind of player was just so much bullshit. He can say whatever he wants but he got caught. Sorry, he suffered an injury but not totally sorry.