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As if their spoiled opinions were any kind of reflection of reality.

From my experience, the people who complain about Winnipeg as if it's some unique Unicorn when it comes to crime and decaying infrastructure etc etc, have also not lived for any amount of real time somewhere else that is comparable. Or visited for short periods of time.

You’re over the top with this.

well...I lived in both cities...at different times...also multiple times....as well as a few extended stays in the U.S....and now have been back here for 18 yrs...theres a reason....just sayin...and I am not a born and bred Manitoban so no bias from growing up here Urban decay in all the big cities...the warts...crime....poverty...it's the same everywhere....and I seen many way worse than here, and I have seen areas I get a lil freaked in...and I dont get freaked out easily

having visited Toronto over the last several decades (80s,90, 00s,10s,20s) it is shocking to me how badly things have fallen off. I can only even put it in the nice place to visit category if you plot out exactly where to stay, where to visit and especially what areas to avoid. Sounds familiar Bluto? It should but my post too is reality.

Tyrell Ford is now officially back on the Bombers' roster.

Globe and Mail rated Winnipeg as the 3rd most livable city in Canada. It has its problems, especially downtown, but so do many cities.

Bailey says goodbye.

as with any city, Winnipeg has its problem areas. It also has a lot of bright spots. I enjoy winter there, and know that many others do, too, but I can see how it's problematic for many. In summer, though? It's the most underrated city in Canada. I very much look forward to becoming a full time Winnipegger before too much longer (or, at least, quasi-Winnipegger.... my wife is a fan of East Selkirk area, and I'm partial to Lorette, but for all intents and purposes, we'll be Winnipeggers before too long...)

I've split out the discussion on Winnipeg and urban decay to this topic

I've traveled a fair bit in the last decade. Canada, us and a few places off the continent. A lot of places I've been to, really make me appreciate winnipeg. We have our issues, no doubt about it. But we have a lot in our favor too.

He's either way over the top or is the most sheltered Winnipegger around. There is a ton of cool stuff to do in Winnipeg in the summer. I'm not huge on hanging out in any of the areas that our social issues create problems but really that's like 5% of the city. Where the hell are you riding your bike Mike? I do agree with him that my favorite part of a Manitoba summer is time at the lake though.

I think the problem in Winnipeg is exasperated by the lack of density .. it lends itself to that completely "dead" feeling you get downtown after hours. When I first moved to Winnipeg 24 years ago now, I lived downtown (Donald and Broadway) and it was significantly more vibrant than it is now (not saying it was great but it certainly was better).

Your wife had the better idea, even more so if you come across to the West side. Check out Clandelboye or Petersfield and you’ll be amazed at how great those communities are.

I’m in Buffalo enough to confirm it is a dump. Downtown Winnipeg has problems but it is no dumpier than Edmonton or Hamilton, Regina, etc… Philadelphia has parts of it that are so beyond dump you would be surprised human beings live there Winnipeg is a great place to live and not a great place to visit really. Vancouver is awesome. I also saw people doing needle drugs in an alley with no care in the world and drug addicts wandering around all over.

There are lots of things about Winnipeg taken for granted by the people that live here. Big one for me... our tree canopy is uncommon for a city our size, and is usually overlooked and underappreciated... not just for the natural beauty it lends our city but actual economical and environmental benefits (passive cooling, prevention of heat island effects, habitat for wildlife and pollinators). You can barely walk outside for 2 minutes on a hot day in Arizona, scurrying from A/C to A/C, what a great place to live 🙄. In my travels I'm often left wondering 'where did all your trees go?'. Looks like some cities were bombed by Agent Orange, barely a stick of vegetation anywhere to be found. Hot as hell and unbearable. I couldn't live in a place where the only trees are at a park you have to drive to to visit. Anecdotal... crime is real here, I've been a victim of property theft multiple times (in a nice part of sunny St James no less)... BUT, I worked at Portage and Main for years, my late shifts ended at 10pm, caught my bus back to St James 100% of the time without issue. Likewise catching the 16 or 18 by The Bay, you keep your head on a swivel and don't flash your valuables but again 100% zero issues, ever. Yes I'm male but I'm not big or intimidating, if anyone got the idea to mug me I wasn't about to scare them off or take them physically, yet I never had a problem with anyone, ever, and there was plenty of opportunity. All that said, the criticism that downtown is a ghost town after work lets out is valid... unless you go straight to a restaurant or bar after work there is nothing else to do. Concerts, festivals, comedy shows... Winnipeg is no longer a flyover city when it comes to entertainment... in fact, we've only been getting better and better for decades. WAG and RWB are world class (and yet, I bet less than 1/3 of Winnipeggers have visited either, let alone both). Nowadays, I have to pick and choose which awesome concerts and live shows I'm going to attend because I couldn't possibly attend them all, and I always have tickets to look forward to. So much to see and do here, if you just go out and do it.

I’ve lived in Calgary most of my life, and it’s taken a sharp decline, especially post pandemic. I don’t bother walking around downtown unless I’m in a densely populated area. I’ve also spent time living in Orlando FL, and that was… certainly an experience.

It isn’t. Downtown Winnipeg has major problems that need to be fixed. It has gotten worse since the pandemic started. Asking a bunch of millionaires who spend a lot of time in the biggest cities in North America which downtown they like least is a stupid bench mark though. It is cold, dark, and empty basically any time they’re here.

The winters suck, but I still love winnipeg and manitoba in general. Wouldn't trade it in for a place like Toronto any day of the week. A matter of preference, I suppose

Taman also didnt even want Blink ..said he would always be fumbling cause his hands were too small ... And wouldn't last from pounding....prob one the toughest sob's pound for pound...much like Grant is...and Blink rarely fumbled. Another Taman assessment was he felt Gavin Walls as well was a pointless camp invite...never liked Taman...glorified ball boy with zero real football connections...more recruiting came to us thru players referrals and parents of players...

Stats: 26-23-6 @ 33-15-5 Streaks: W1 @ L1 Notes: MAF vs Brossoit.

Yeah there's something not reliable here just can't put my finger on it...

A fair deal and another example of why Schoen/Lawler are likely to cost less next year

Fort Whyte, ass Park, ass Park forest, living prairie, multiple trails. Multiple large parks, golf courses that are indoor and out. I take my family to the Forks fairly regularly. Don't get down on a city just cause you're scared.

No kidding. Theres like 1000 beautiful bike paths all over Winnipeg. No need to be booting around Higgins/Sutherland Ave on your Schwinn.

Especially with the GC in a dome this year.

I hope Lowry beats the **** out of Hartman.

Last summer one weekend I stumbled upon a neighborhood block party being thrown at a Fort Gary community center. There were drink tickets for local beers and ciders, food vendors and live bands, a mixed crowd of young and old, teens, families, whatever. I was pumped to find out The Mariachi Ghost had been booked to play, and they absolutely ******* rocked. On a literal baseball diamond in Fort Gary on a random summer night. I spent $20 but I could have watched for free. I didn't see security but nobody was making any trouble, just chilling and having fun and looking out for eachother, no need for security or police presence. Not even one machete if you can believe it!

there's a million things I could list about Winnipeg in the summer.... a lot have to do with drinking on patios, so what that says about me, I don't know. Saffron's rooftop. Beer Can at the Granite, The Leaf, Fort Whyte, The Forks (love grabbing a beer at The Common and going to sit in the muskoka chairs overlooking the river).... Lots of fishing and golfing opportunities within the city....... Bombers games obviously, but also Goldeyes games at one of the nicest small market parks in North America....... I could go on and on. I'm a rural Manitoban, and will always love rural MB the best, but I absolutely ADORE Winnipeg in the summer (and think more of it in winter than most, but that's just me)...

My argument isn't that WPG is some perfect paradise or that it isn't shitty at times. It's that, Winnipeg isn't unique in that aspect. Every city of comparable size is pretty well the same. Maybe with the lack of stabbings lol. But bigger cities have huge run down areas that are just out of sight unless you are specifically going to that area. They've been able to segregate their ****, Winnipeg will too if it keeps growing (economy/population....not foot print). I can't remember the specific study, but in the early 2000s....I think....there was a report that came out that said there wasn't a single city of any size in NA that would be able to keep up with the urban decay to come. Some places have done better than others, but every city is facing infrastructure issues that they have no answer for.

Got all excited seeing that this thread was hot, looking forward to some FA news and i get to read about how shitty Winnipeg is for the 23487 time in my life. Good grief already. Every city has shitty neighborhoods and a lot shitty downtowns. The mosquitoes havent been an issue for like 10+ years(whatever the hell the city did about them, kudos). Our winters arnt even that bad anymore, a couple weeks of -25C and its over, and were not shoveling 4+ feet of snow twice a month like those jabronis out east. We have the sunniest and warmest summers in Canada, period, with a million lakes to enjoy. And i can actually afford my recently built beautiful 2000+ square foot home that would be twice the price+ in Calgary, Vancouver, Toronto, etc, where i would be paying it off for the rest of my natural life instead of having disposable income and being able to use it to help fund my retirement if i so choose. Best food scene in Canada too. I love Winnipeg, everyone else can eat s**t.

Horseshoe? A damn horse fell outta there collective arses.

So yeah... football! I guess this is what happens when your GM is inactive during FA...

You're from TO and are blinded on anything not Toronto. I had a friend visit for the first time ever in late October, stayed at the Alt across from the arena, walked to the Forks and Human Rights Museum. He couldn't stop glowing about what a great experience he had (Friday to Saturday). I will take the impression of someone that lives in Europe, has lived in LA and travels all across NA every year over anything you have to offer about our city. PS. I was in Toronto Dec 14th to 15th and spent Thursday evening downtown, thoroughly enjoyed the experience, including the Christmas market. Not quite Vancouver in December but a great experience.

Yes, a cigarette habit downtown can get very expensive if you are a kind soul. Same to you, but that's been my experience. Sorry if that hurts your feelers. I don't see what you see in Winnipeg, but that doesn't mean you are wrong. When we live in a place we tend to give it the benefit of the doubt and grow accustomed to and then overlook the warts. You are doing the same with Toronto. I saw the same social issues in Toronto every time I went. Weirdos and homeless all over the place, garbage and litter everywhere, and a general feeling of unease and being unsafe after dark. Could I have avoided this...probably...but you could do the same in Winnipeg.

Winnipeg/Manitoba has many, many good and great features and things about it, but to say our downtown is anything but bad would simply be a lie. Our downtown has nice pockets during the day and maybe one could argue very small circumferences around a few select businesses into the evening, but for the most part as soon as work ends, the concert ends, the Jets game finishes etc. it's hold your wallet in your pocket and get back to the suburbs as quickly as you can.

You’re not wrong. It’s the “our nerd” mentality though. You better live here if you want to rip on the city lol.

The club wasn't exactly in a good financial position back in the day. As we always say, we're living the glory years right now, and it's for more reasons than the fact we're winning a bunch.

Yeah, Walls was one of the best DEs when it came to keeping contain.

Idk parts of down town suck for sure. Exchange is great. But tbh a lot of major cities have similar down town problems to what we do. Urban sprawl / decay and gentrification are issues all over the west.

Yeah no kidding ..he never came from that background and when he got back to Cali he did a few things...postman.. but for the last three, four years works in the communication department at a branch of the School of medicine at UCLA.... So very far from a ghetto rat by any means.....shameful comment

That is an incredibly crass comment and like so many tropes, not at all accurate. Be better.

I dont doubt it but it hasnt been mentioned in player compensation before now.

So this 12k promo money is from a seperate fund that teams pay players for appearances etc. Teams need to spend atleast 110k but there is No maximum for this fund. Yet another CFL policy that fans are left in the dark on. What would prevent the Bombers from paying Brandy 100k for player appearances and allocate part of his salary to someone else?

Yeah I have seen some crazy stuff happening in Seattle. But again, the ocean and the mountains makes you put up with more. I have a buddy who lives near LA and he says that skid row is even worse than you think and the violence is off the charts. That is right down town. Nobody goes to downtown LA unless they have to, or it’s for some specific event.

I think some see a really tall building or the mountains in the background and miss what is happening in front of them.

I've lived in Calgary since 1990. We have all these shiny new (empty) office towers downtown. But that's all this city is. Looks good on a postcard or on television with the impressive downtown against the backdrop of the Rocky Mountains but other than that, Calgary has nothing going on downtown. Economiucally, this town is just starting to get back on it's feet after about 6 or 7 years of hard economic times. One thinh though, what calgary has always been in boom times or bust still remains the same. This place shuts down for business at 5 pm Monday to Friday& the entire downtown is deserted at night & on weekends. Most Calgarians know better than to come to the Stephen Avenue Mall downtown at night for fear of getting stabbed or mugged. hanging out at Olympic Plaza at night or in front of City Hall. Or taking the C Train where drug deals are consumated on the platforms in front of people waiting to hop on the trains or even inside the trains themselves. Murders, stabbings & horrendous assaults have caused the City & Province of Alberta to spend millions on crime prevention with i9ncreased security measures like cameras at every C Train station, the hiring of transit police officers to ride the trains randomly or for officers to work at problem stations along the 3 different lines we have in Calgary coming in & out of the downtown now. Ridership is way down. People are scared to use the C Trains after dark. I tell ya, I sure wouldn't get on one anymore. If anyone (like Bluto) thinks Toronto is better than anywhere else then they're either very naive or clueless. With homelessness at an all time high every city now has a problem. Urban crime is increasing. Last time I looked, I didn't see any demonstrators blocking bridges into Winnipeg's downtown like what's happened in Toronto. And yet, in high crime Winnipeg no one is threatening skaters on the Red River like what happened at Nathan Phillips Square in Toronto or the shootings of Jewish synagogues or private Jewish schools in Montreal. Now, maybe that'll spread as the war in the Middle East goes on but right now, where's the problem? In our 3 biggest cities. Toronto, Montreal & Vancouver. Affordabilty (rent & mortgage payments) is 90% of livability so....

Hopefully they left periods 2 and 3 in Calgary. If not, could be a long night.

Again , people seem to forget that would have tied the game. That and I still think the pass would have been broken up. Plus, had Sayles just knocked the ball down like he should have it was drive over a few plays earlier. .