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U forgot 5 guys who coukdnt run in 1 grey cup You didnt forget lol And the fact everyone was a starter and gives us a chance to win..cause thats why they here...but never getting any play time during the season as we wore our vets down to bloody knubs..and then when needing to play we had no clue if they could...or faith in them..didnt help

Yeah I dont think our overall talent is as bad as it seems or people like to believe. Our coaching tho..and how we go about things..and their ideals/philosophy on things..thats where we getting killed Agree...the areas of talent where we are weak tho we did it to ourselves..no succession plans..no draft strategy..Reliance and belief of declining players with lotsa experience would keep us going..on way too many positions all at once, and passing on available FA's due to that..huge mistake.. poor foresight..no apparent longterm planning whatsoever and the refusal to actually let guys get reps along the way to possibly develop..all played a part. Add to this the fact our coach had a predetermined lineup before TC even started and many a guy was gifted his spot as opposed to earned or won it..icing on the cake of a 5 yr slide where most likely we end up in last

hence...time for change...as the landscapes in the league have changed and Smugs still thinks its 2020

Yeah the waste of a DA for a backup oline is just insane...especially when he isnt even your best one....Just dumb....and from what I seen I have major doubts he could handle a tweener LB off the edge physically....definately not agility wise And if we see Kelly all day ahead of Griffin in that role someone needs to be shot and thrown in a dumpster....

Oh just waiting for that actually hahah....But a real chance is a run of 2..3 games to settle in and allow his mates to get used to him...or realize they dont have to compensate I Yeah he was nursing something all yr I pretty certain...But also when has that stopped Osh from playing his fav's when they shouldnt have even dressed?...several Grey Cups come to mind....And a particularly bone headed decision to continue with a QB with his finger duct tapped on who he himself said on sidelines couldn't throw the ball let alone grip it....

cause he has big legs...Maybe he atrophied??. haha... But yeah that's what I was gonna say too....Much like it took 14 games to realize the 3 Canadian receiver's thing wasnt working...Heck as it is 2 isnt working...And they still continue to ignore Clercius over Neild who gives us our only big physical receiver who if used right would allow us a bit of grit On the flip side tho...maybe its progress in coaches' ability to recognize talent/issues/problems...Did take 3 yrs to determine Griffin was our best SAM... Arguably prob one of our best...if not the best defensive players in terms of versatility and skill set....closely followed by Smith, which also took far too long to absorb thru their skulls....so there is that lol

I know he will be...I dont need that validation lol

is anyone not shocked? Osh still professes that ZC is the best in the league...Guy is a complete moron and blind to reality. We will go nowhere anytime soon if we keep him as HC....The worst thing that can happen this yr is for us to squeak into the playoffs again thru the back door....Just validates Osh and his ineptness As for the Oline reports yesterday. Is Big Legs hurt??...or just been demoted??...Or is it Neuf possibly cant go? Regardless putting Big Legs at guard is just another in a long line of useless and brain numbing Osh decisions. The guy just aint good and one the biggest wimps for a big guy

I think gonna tell us more about the coaching and leadership....Or possibly the lack there of...Be interesting to witness

Yup any smart compatent organization when in a downward funk of an extended nature start with clipping of the HC and allowing the G.M to see if he can fix and if that isolates the main issue. Usually a team...and one that has had success will give the G.M a second opportunity to put a HC in place...unless everything organization related is a shitshow mess...and thats not the case here so going full purge would be a last gasp desperation thing and flailing away blindly hoping something works..and just a poor approach I doubt if ever..or in a real rare circumstance a G.M was clipped and a new one was brought in and forced to accept the staff..and a failing one at that which was here previously..No G.M candidate with any sensibility or smarts would take on that condition...and definitely not one id want running my organization. They would want their stamp on things and have control of the whats and why's of what would bring success to their vision.. If we end up outta the playoffs..with a 5th consecutive yr of more decline Miller needs to step up in Walters won't and have the talk with him that if he doesn't can his coach...he will and that won't bode well for Walters.

we dont need to purge the whole regime immediately...we need to cut bait with what 98% of teams do first when a team is on the path we are...The HC...No need to have upheaval all across the board as that would filter right thru into admin staff....assistants...everyone...noy needed here You need a new HC with a fresh vision and set of eyes to assess the scene...determine if he wants Younger...or he wants to bring in a guy of his choice.....And they assess the talent and what we need....and what we wanna do and implement that. A new HC isnt gonna can the whole roster, but I bet he will have no bias and the best will play, prob wont over play excessive Canadians as he has a bee under his bonnet in regards to the Canadiana portion and I sure will use all the rules available to him to succeed...Like why would he not as it's arse on the line Culture and character wont wain...It will be there...But I bet attitude will change as guys will be on their game and playing with intent...as the gravy train of no accountability and favoritism will be merely a fart in the wind

or had big legs....That is guaranteed starter qualities...

we lose this weekend..we likely done till 2027 and the purge and player auditions should start immediately

Thing is with Demski...He obviously must have something going on as he has done pretty much nothing of note other than that one big grab for a while...Why not sit him and dress an Import...or bring in a big bodied dominant physical guy to audition on the fly...Ratio could allow it...and hey you may strike gold...Just bringin back our old cuts...or scrap heaped nobodies isnt a real successful venture Do we just pack up shop in season on the scouring of players? There is zero reason to not be bringing in guys all yr to run through the paces and assess

nope another thing to consider/look at....Have they ever supplanted the previous yr's starter who was still here with a new guy...nope. Even with a player out playing the incumbent...or the incumbent not practicing all TC but magically was starting once season started...Happened all too often here Even this yr...Elsbury did nothing to catapult himself over the rest to be starter...Singer looked best of any receiver....and when finally allowed to play shows he belongs...Jenkins was out played by 3 other guys...Even Smith shoulda been a day 1 starter But if you looked at the sentiment and tait's reporting prior to camp it was already cemented basically we were gonna run an import center....the plan was to be 3 Canadian receivers, come hell or high water, even tho not even a requirement...so campwas just a pointless adventure again

define a player's coach tho?..there can be many examples of it but whats your opinion that he is one...not being a knob just curious. The Don..Bouno...even Murpht were also player's coaches who got a lotta love from their teams...but also made the hard assed decisions that had to be, and you earned your roster spot each week...or u were sat...or just out right released A coach considered a players coach who just caters to his vets...favors...rarely disciplines...doesn't call anyone out...Mister Nice guy so to speak can also cause fractures too....which wasnt wildly publicized or let be known here but can assure you there was some dissention in the ranks....it's only natural and to say it didnt exist is foolish An most players generally say they love playing for their coach...That's par for the course... All that being said they have had 3 yrs ...4 counting this yr to turn it around from the last succesful end to season...and it has gotten worst each yr...with this yr likely to be even e steeper dip down, and fact of the matter is pretty much due to most if not all the same issues that have been there the whole time

Our defence as well has slowly regressed the further we get from Richie's system.... The bookends of the tenure like you aid...the first 5 yrs, and now the current recent yrs are not indications of excellence...we were getting by mostly from a stacked roster that self coached and policed...and let it erode without the proper succession plans or any forward looking planning. And ability to oach/manage roster ourselves outta it is a major weakness here I actually agree with you for the most part...I dont think we have a sever lack of talent issue...More of an adherene to use some of it....the adherence to maximize what we do have and the relience on what was good before...still being there....coupled with bizzare and pointless roster decisions...refusal to use rules designed to actually benefit us...the rigidity of our ratio...or exceeding it with inferior Canadians for no reason whatsoever other than a coaches bias....and many many dumb in game decisions...well you see what we have morphed into We arent able to win in spite of all that now because we just dont have enough top line guys to cover up for it...and the HC cant see that...or just refuses to accept it

Good on B.C Be the last we see of him ever..was a marginal end of roster guy at best. Can't see a team bringing him in

Originally the Faj as well couldn't do squat from the pocket, most his success was all off script and sandlot tye plays...But he was given a chance and stuck with by a HC/OC who knew how to best use him...the kind of players to surround him with...and he bet our bumbling brain dead staff in the Grey Cup, and has his current team sitting in 1st Like I've said many times if you have the raw talent...complimentary metrics, you can play with the proper coaching and supporting staff...nd Perkins has more natural skill than the Faj. So we have the coaching chops and ability to craft adequate and diverse roster to compliment and augment...Hell to the no on that one Yeah he is the only one who really shows any signs of being a playmaker/difference maker on our defense outside of Smith and Griffin....I'd say Williams if he can clean up the occasional brain fart too....we need all the difference makers on defence we can get If that means in FA we have to go after the best pure returner available to make it work...then so be it....This positions and ratio requirements carved in stone no matter what cause thats what was successful over half a decade ago needs to be put in the trash And that's exactly the point, 2/3rds the way thru the 3rd was apparent we were not gonna win that game...was a perfect opportunity to change it up...Give Mtl a diff look and see what Perkins could muster....but nope

Ans why Osh hasn't stepped in and said "wtf you doing here" or insist to make him more of the focal point...as he is the HC and in charge and at end of the day it's his team is also baffling and a sign of a guy with either no clue...no balls...or no ability to make tough decisions and or issue consequences....it's really weak to be honest yup...has compounded on us for 3...almost 4 yrs now and well...Interest is now due...in arrears really and we dont have ability to pay the piper

Wasn't his culture..he didn't invent it..it was a tried and true culture of any great team..and it was self policed for most part by elite vets in prime...not much real coaching went on...when that evaporated...and before it showed The years that book ended the GC wins was littered with dumb rostering...ineptitude...lack of prep..stupid in game decisions..playing of injured guys...poor coords...inability to change on the fly in a game..or in season Once the talent either aged out or left...we didbt have the chops coaching wise to over come it

Yup our attitude...the way we went about things..the misguided beliefs we held as a staff and management...killed us...turned into laziness and complacency

With our oline tho..we shouldn't be a heavy from pocket offence anyway. I think if we had a competent OC..and a HC with the sensibility to craft his roster to accentuate the kind of QB he is that he would be quite successful.. His NFL tape I more concerned with in play/ability than UFL..I dont think ive watched more than 10 snaps of any ufl in my life

Oh I agree...we looked like a legit cellar dweller...I was just trying to be a bit nice in my assessment We are a horrible team and I feel bad for a lot of the players as I dont think we as bad as the sum of the parts for most part..we are severely hampered by horrible coaching and way we go about things. Almost victims of an arrogant cockey HC and I guess by extension now GM as he has just sat on his hands and did..or said nothing. Its okay to come out in the press and say he not happy and we need to make some changes or there may be a shift in direction for 2027...if it hurts some feelings or ohfuckin well..be better then We have nothing to be cockey or arrogant about...nothing..and this narrative all yr we happy where we are..and right where we wanna be...just a few more "fixes" and clean up some details and communication issues...garbage...thsts just yip yapping of a HC who has no clue and lost the plot..I sincerely believe he never really had one and got lucky with a stacked roster where he couldn't mess it up...even tho he tried but we were able to overcome his stupid decisions...not anymore and he has no answers how to climb out...cause he never really provided any to begin with..he rode the benefits of a self policing roster

People sleeping on Perkins..for some reason people think he can't throw...he can...he actually has a strong arm Plus hes not some small qb..dude is big and durable...but also damn elusive. Why we havnt had packages for him set to his strengths while easing into other aspects is crazy stupid. I see more immediate potential in him over TE who really hadn't impressed anytime I seen him..hope Perkins gets every chance to win starting job next yr..like hes only 29...could have a good solid 6..7 yrs ahead of him