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I honestly thought that this board would be more sane once we started winning.

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Those were men. When football was played inside a rodeo arena and your opponent was a Model T.

I have heard the players -- the people actually putting their bodies on the line for our entertainment -- appreciate how cagey MOS is with injury information ... and if the players are good with it, then I'm good with it.

What Harris said totally makes sense and is legit..coming from a background of producing game plans and involved in film break down I see the point in it. I guarantee that Nichols was to look for the one primary read and if wasnt there hit the check down..and if u go back and rewatch you will see a lot of the other reciever routes were set up to aid in this and be blockers..it was planned as such..and executed as planned. Cgy does sit generally in a 10-12 yard zone set up to jump and poach routes..as shown by their league leading 14 picks..so to beat them..or control them with t.o.p you dont play into it If that first read wasnt immediately available then throwing into that..with more chance of pass break ups..short drives or turn overs woulda been dumber than dumb. And agreeing with Harris also that t.o.p is just as important as points..because it's basically an extension of your defense..as the other team has no chance to score..there's nothing more frustrating for an offence to sit on sidelines and watch another team eat up 5..6 min drives and u can do nothing about it..and when u get your chance..come in out of sync and rythm and end up back on sidelines in a minute or less a lot of the time...there is a method to the Bombers madness..may not be pretty..fancy or exciting..but you cant argue with its success so far..

Grant with a Player of the Week nod.

Actually what a lot of us seem to be saying is that we should celebrate the win, not piss and moan about stats. There will always be room for improvement, but a win is a win and ultimately, everything else is secondary to that.

Caught Mr. LaPolice doing a check down of luggage today...Wpg. Airport I think he took the bag himself because I didn’t see Harris anywhere around..

It's eerie on how similar TBURGESS and 17to85 are despite having a difference in opinion on the QB.....

Because this isn’t the 1940s and Harris is 32 years old?

No, I'm now convinced that even when we do win the GC, people on here will complain adamantly that we didn't win properly and that it was a fluke and that the way _______ played in the game isn't good enough to lead to MORE cups......

I listened to the coaches show.....and have discovered many interesting products and services to buy.

A win is a win. But, there are some analytics stats types covering the NFL that have some evidence to support the theory that how you win or lose is a predictor of future success or failure. So, winning close games; winning because of special teams plays versus productive offense; giving up a lot of yards or points on defense - might mean that you're not quite as good as your record. And those deficits may catch up to you late in the season or the playoffs where the level of play in all three areas rises. Not saying the Bombers hit all of those, but some for sure - offense has not really produced lately.

I'VE been advocating for that for a couple years now...why I don't know...I honestly think that it's because Lapo has no kahonies and doesn't want any type of turn over...sure it's working kinda...but as we saw in WF last year if you can shut that down..then what. Why we don't pull guys away with any vertical push to allow for those crossing patterns to be generally a one on one match-up...a lot of times with a guy in trail position is just baffling...we have all the tools to run this type of system, yet avoid it like the plague. This would also open up more lanes and areas for Harris to work without 5-6 guys in the box or inside the sticks. To have a guy like Lucky, or Demski isolated with what would likely be a linebacker across the middle, while you use your big shot guy like Matthews..and now Lawler taking defenders (and the safety) away from the LOS with Woli running intermediate crossers and drags would be hard to stop with the threat of Harris in the backfield...pick your pinion basically...cheat on the guys like Lucky and Demski and you will have one of Matthews or Lawler freed up deep...defend against that with deep zone and safety over the top..HarriS, Lucky and Demski eat you up. Now factor in sets with Strev running the full package and that extra option/that he offers...good luck defending that....SAD part and fact of the matter is Nichols can make all the throws and run an offence like this, but isn't allowed to..and thats on the OC I remember when Nichols took over for Willy..we were dinking and dunking and and had no vertical threat at all...as soon as Matt stepped in we were immediately throwing deeper passes...pushing the ball...it was like night and day...so why things slowly changed is odd

This poll is ridiculous imo. It's set up to give the appearance that every responder is in favor of getting rid of one of Lapo or Nichols. I would wager that the vast majority of Bomber fans would pick neither if it were an option....but then that doesn't advance anyone's agenda does it. Honestly, we have a 6-2 team and we have a select few old men yelling at clouds. Fire a coach or QB of a 6-2 team....smoke some more crack.

It would be nice to just score and talk for at least one week about how Matthews had a break out game and how Whitehead was giving the ball in open field to utilize his speed etc....

Looking at some numbers...you can see the Lapo trend creeping in...when Nichols took over against Edm in 2015 he averaged 255 yards a game, on a not very good team where the defense was on the field a lot...taking time away from offence and that was a part year. 2016 he averaged 283 yards a game with 8 games at just under 300 yards or over(287/289/299/301/304/330/341/390) 2017 he averaged 283 yards a game with 8 games at just under 300 yards or over (282/319/319/331/358/364/371/390) 2018..well we all know what went on there..injured..coming back injured..good defense and averaged 216 yards a game and 2 games at just under 300 yards or over (291/358) 2019 is averaging 219 yards a game..darn good defense...really deep well rounded team with 1 game at just under 300 yards or over (295) Now do you see a trend here folks?..he is being put in a situation to not take an unnecessary chances..do enough to win and not turn the ball over..and 9 times out of 10 win the T.O.P battle...this is by design...not by lack of skill or talent.....a ball control offence...using a work horse in Harris (a bit too much for my liking mind you) and playing smart..most wins next to CGY over past 3 years seems to show it's a working formula...but not one of popular opinion All the while though since 2017 leading league in offensive points and having pretty much a 3:1 TD to INT ratio mind you..Impressive none the less....another thing of note you can almost see/sense Nichols wanting to..or about to loose his **** to the media with the constant questions/nagging about stats..or lack thereof despite the teams record...and who would blame him

There’s an abundance of ways to counter that type of zone shell (seems like they play cover 1-2 base with robber, everyone is looking to jump routes) though to open up routes for the passing game, flooding, combo routes are the most obvious remedy, also simply running verticals and forcing guys to choose whether to watch the ball or haul ass. I’d like to see the Bombers get teams concerned about vertical routes and crossers to the speed guys then smack teams right in the face with 15 yard back shoulder plays to the big guys like Wolitasky and Matthews. Can’t believe they haven’t figured out how to turn these guys loose. Harris is a great counter too.

I was told that it's a team game so why is the blame on Reilly? So what you are saying is that Nichols is better then Reilly because he made it to the play offs? Even Riderfans.com people aren't as delusional as that.

The “but we won!!!” argument is just so unbelievably bad, it’s hard to take it seriously.

never read a Ed Tait article... it's all propaganda by the team and used to get the message they want out without having to be questioned or explain things they would rather avoid...

Sure. We have 9 touchdowns/drives that started inside the opponent 20 from special teams or D too. Best thing we can say about the O is in the first five games of the season their redzone numbers were great and they didn't turn it over. The last three have been a pretty big struggle.

The team that played against Hamilton last week was not checked out.

My god man, have you never watched an episode of Star Trek? You do not put matter and anti-matter together in the same place ever!

I expect Speller will play, and if not start will be the 6th...it's not like he was knocked out of the game..he came in for short yardage and as well as the final drive Seeing as Rios apparently practiced he may be pulled off the 6 game if he already hasn't been...if him and Humes aren't able to go..then it's Mike Jones I would think

You talk like players are actually people with feelings and rights and stuff. You keep talking like that and you won't be allowed on the internet.

On 1290 radio this morning, Bauming stated that in the past 3 games, 54% of the Bomber offence came from Harris, and that is not sustainable.

Also, maybe players expressed concerns that public comments about their specific ailments and treatments violated the Manitoba Personal Health Information Act, and the Bombers are just covering their butts...

Must be. We have three threads going on about how terrible this team is. O, D, QB and Coaching.

Day after win a GC, people will be on meltdown about all the FAs that we're going to lose.

25 total TDs was prior to last weeks game... You can now make it 27 total TDs, 23 O, 1D, 3 kick...

And I understand it's hard to get them meaningful playing time.... but at some point they need a chance to move the offence if it s stalling repeatedly in a game.

You said this has been happening in a lot of games...which I was responding to...Hamilton plays a similar defense to CGY..hence the similar offence philosophy

What can drive one nuts....is watching the Bomber O in the first half of games (overall pretty good), then watching them in the 2nd (overall pretty bad)

That's how i see it too....and over the last 2 years has morphed into this again..I can see using the ball control offence...low risk..take shots when they are there...but c'mon man take the shots...from my seat in stadium you can clearly see they are there...but sooner or later guys are gonna loaf and not sell the deep routes...and who can blame them... you have to use "all" the weapons just to keep defense's honest, and the last couple games we havn't even really done that...and that's a recipe for failure. As a defensive guy, I would be using a linebacker to shadow/spy Harris and lurk in the weeds...watch Nichols first read and then bee-line to Harris...

No, direr fan.

Some people are worried that some of the stats will be what loses another playoff game.

So if Speller is not good to go this week, maybe we are going to see Tui as the 6th OL. and Walters need to pick up a Cdn OL on PR. Little by little our IR is getting crowded.

He's missed nearly 3 seasons.

here’s the Bombers workhorse tailback explaining why he was so busy: “We knew that was going to be there. (Calgary) is a team that drops out and their linebackers and DBs sit at the sticks (first-down marker). We talked about it all week: getting that ball and just getting north-south and trying to split tackles and break tackles to get first downs. When you’re in second and five those dump-down passes are easy targets, they’re contested catches and you’ve just got to get north-south with those as quickly as possible.” Perhaps some of you need to read this and see if you still want to attribute it to the quarterback and not the game plan. Or does Andrew Harris not know what he's talking about?

I have lots of concerns about the D. There's just way too many times where people are WIDE open in the second level because they blitzed the house and didn't get home, so there's nobody back to cover receivers. Saw that way too many times. It's odd, because there's times they look like world beaters on D, and there's times it looks like Jim Daley's D....

called a team win...each part picking the other up ...tho would like to see offence score a TD or 2...still won...just like games where defense gives up over 25 and the offence and or ST picks up the slack and scores more

The Refs. cheated me on the BC / Hamilton game. 😛

come on, that's easy, it's one of two things... it's either a upper or lower body injury... you should know that by now, lol...

I fully believe Neuf is a team player and is being hidden on the IR.

Someday we won't have Nichols either. In fact, I'm betting that in the last 50 years or so the average # of years for a starting QB is probably pretty low. Brock was here the most - about 8 years. Clements about 4, Dunigan maybe 3, Khari and Glenn about the same. So unless we win the Grey Cup this year, my educated guess is that next year we move with someone else.

I was taught that the truth would never hurt you... might make some uncomfortable, but it's the truth... lol...

That, and tripping over his bottom lip.

It's time to hand the ball to Streveler. On an incremental basis, in certain situations. As far as the first.....closing out games - MOS may have seen the light - Streveler behind center, enhances Harris's ability to find room in the A/B gaps. Option plays can also be used in the mix. Would also like to see Streveler running out of some of the hybrid formation sets and provide a total change of pace from Nichols, at certain points of the game. It is also important to get Streveler enough reps, going forward.....so that we know, exactly what we have....as a potential starter, in future. I have always been to some extent, a Nichols supporter. But for the sake of the team - this O, would benefit from a judicious amount of Streveler reps, from here on in.