17to85 Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 So do we think that part of Harris not practising last week was cause they knew this was going to be coming and wanted to get the backups some more time with the 1s knowing they'd need them? rebusrankin, Tracker and Eternal optimist 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 What is amazing about this situation is the fandom of the Bombers on MBB (or anywhere) are like... Bomber fan: I'm very disappointed in Andrew Harris. His actions have hurt the team and my respect for him. I'm angry and confused. Visiting fans: Guy's a cheater. No excuse for- Bomber fan: Shut your mouth. Go away. Hey, what about player X on your roster! This happens everywhere, and yes, I have very little patience for smug fans of other teams showing up here waving their own flags. It's just kind of funny to see it play out in real time. I love all my children, even if they disappoint me sometimes. Eternal optimist, B-F-F-C, Piggy 1 and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 minute ago, JCon said: What is amazing about this situation is the fandom of the Bombers on MBB (or anywhere) are like... Bomber fan: I'm very disappointed in Andrew Harris. His actions have hurt the team and my respect for him. I'm angry and confused. Visiting fans: Guy's a cheater. No excuse for- Bomber fan: Shut your mouth. Go away. Hey, what about player X on your roster! This happens everywhere, and yes, I have very little patience for smug fans of other teams showing up here waving their own flags. It's just kind of funny to see it play out in real time. I love all my children, even if they disappoint me sometimes. Cause **** anyone who isn't one of us. He's our player, we can talk **** about him but no one else. Noeller, Wanna-B-Fanboy, Bubba Zanetti and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Cause **** anyone who isn't one of us. He's our player, we can talk **** about him but no one else. Exactly! We understand the situation better. The nuance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) Quote Peyton Manning’s attorney confirmed human growth hormone shipments were sent to his home in Florida by an Indianapolis clinic, but said they were not intended to be used by him, according to documents filed in federal court. The HGH was meant for Peyton’s wife, 😂 Edited August 27, 2019 by Mark F Tracker and Eternal optimist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 We are on the cusp of understanding this whole situation much better than those foreigners.. Mark F and JCon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 Anybody else wondering why the CFL tested the same guy twice in 10 days? Floyd, Mark F, blue_gold_84 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, rebusrankin said: Anybody else wondering why the CFL tested the same guy twice in 10 days? Probably not just for the hell of it. Piggy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, rebusrankin said: Anybody else wondering why the CFL tested the same guy twice in 10 days? Cuz he should be declining but putting up some career numbers? I would be testing him 4 times a week and thrice on Sundays. I still don't think he was using that classic steroid to cheat and gain an advantage. I would strongly suspect that if he was dosing- it would be with something that would actually help give him an advantage and not that janky 90s ****. I honestly think he unintentionally took something that was tainted and he pissed hot and got flagged... with zero tolerance, it doesn't matter how much or how it got there- you are still going to be penalized. I am good with that. He got flagged, they tested a duplicate sample and that one was flagged too so he gets punished and suspended for 2 games. That sits fine with me. The part I am convinced of is that it was unintentional and he wasn't using the janky 90s roid to gain an advantage- he wasn't cheating. I am good with that. So, do the time, get the data on the levels of the offending substance out into the media make your case, move on and kick some ass. Edited August 27, 2019 by wanna-b-fanboy Doublezero, B-F-F-C, VoR and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 26 minutes ago, rebusrankin said: Anybody else wondering why the CFL tested the same guy twice in 10 days? I’d be interested in the policy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 I assume they do random testing so it would just be pure bad luck right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 minute ago, 17to85 said: I assume they do random testing so it would just be pure bad luck right? 8 times as a bomber so far. Thats crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 20 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Cuz he should be declining but putting up some career numbers? I would be testing him 4 times a week and thrice on Sundays. I still don't think he was using that classic steroid to cheat and gain an advantage. I would strongly suspect that if he was dosing- it would be with something that would actually help give him an advantage and not that janky 90s ****. I honestly think he unintentionally took something by that was tainted and he pissed hot and got flagged... with zero tolerance, it doesn't matter how much or how it got there- you are still going to be penalized. I am good with that. He got flagged, they tested a duplicate sample and that one was flagged too so he gets punished and suspended for 2 games. That sits fine with me. The part I am convinced of is that it was unintentional and he wasn't using the janky 90s roid to gain an advantage- he wasn't cheating. I am good with that. So, do the time, get the data on the levels of the offending substance out into the media make your case, move on and kick some ass. blue_gold_84, Noeller, B-F-F-C and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, 17to85 said: I assume they do random testing so it would just be pure bad luck right? Random testing like random screening at the airport. 😉 blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deiter Fan Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 34 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: with zero tolerance, it doesn't matter how much or how it got there- you are still going to be penalized. I am good with that. "There can be no justice so long as laws are absolute" Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 The pro sport mantra....”it ain’t cheating if you don’t get caught” Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 Harris said that his being tested so often is a long running joke in the Bombers locker room... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Noeller said: Harris said that his being tested so often is a long running joke in the Bombers locker room... Well now he can look forward to regular mandatory testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 23 minutes ago, Deiter Fan said: "There can be no justice so long as laws are absolute" Good thing we aren't looking for justice here then. Using fear tactics to get cheating out of the sport is ok by me- until we find a better solution. Solid quote and a very admirable point of view though. Deiter Fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 I would think over 30 guys get tested more - assuming Reilly gets tested for cheetah blood weekly... bearpants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Goalie said: 8 times as a bomber so far. Thats crazy thats CFL definition of “random” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, Floyd said: I would think over 30 guys get tested more - assuming Reilly gets tested for cheetah blood weekly... Reilly should be tested also since at his age and the amount of beating he received since Week 1 he should be on the shelf already😂 Mr Dee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, JCon said: Exactly! We understand the situation better. The nuance. **** each and every one of them. They will take any reason to hate. Outside noise Edited August 27, 2019 by Geebrr 17to85 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deiter Fan Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Good thing we aren't looking for justice here then. Using fear tactics to get cheating out of the sport is ok by me- until we find a better solution. Solid quote and a very admirable point of view though. I understand what you're saying...my concern tho is the not-uncommon confirmed instances of cross contamination among supplements. I am in no way an expert on supplements or steroids. Have never taken either ...however...since we know that contamination does happen and is not rare...and we know that in this case the amount detected is not even in the range where it would be at all beneficial...and the player in question has never tested positive prior even having been tested more than most other players...then maybe the evidence should be slightly more substantial to forever place an asterisk next to a player's name. But zero tolerance policies give us no room to consider things like intent which, imo, is not in the spirit of justice. To me this is like a person being accused of rape with the only evidence being a security cam frame of an arm around an alleged victim. There is evidence of an association but none for intent to violate a law. In a case like Harris' an association is all that's needed to confirm guilt. The Jeffery Dahmers of the world aside...it's the reason I can't support a death penalty. That it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer, Benjamn Franklin Edited August 27, 2019 by Deiter Fan B-F-F-C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted August 27, 2019 Report Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, JCon said: Random testing like random screening at the airport. 😉 Let the teen with the earphones, backwards baseball cap & pants halfway down his ass goes thru but test the 75 year old senior in the walker as she looks suspicious. #randomtesting Edited August 27, 2019 by SpeedFlex27 blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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