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If he's been hurt why's he been on the roster?

So if elsbury is being demoted my question is... Why now? Why not weeks ago when it was obvious he wasn't getting the job done?

So this game is going to tell us everything we need to know about this team. Absolutely do or die for playoff hopes so let's see if they have some fight left in them or if they are just going to roll over and quietly go into the offseason.

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I am a big believer in process so you don't start tossing everyone out. I wouldn't toss a gm before seeing what he does with a different coach. Hell I'm not even sure just outright tossing O'Shea is right, however he might need a performance improvement plan which includes NOT writing the depth chart in pen before training camp even starts and knowing when to drop certain players and help hiring assistant coaches.

Know what a players coach is? A guy who wins.

And Demski hasn't looked healthy the last couple. Not surprised at all they're fishing for depth

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

I like Wilson and I'm not saying cut the guy.... But he needs to make catches or else what good are you?

Ehhh a guy not catching balls right in his mitts is a problem with the receiver. Not gonna blame the coaching for that.

If that was a one off for Wilson sure but he hasn't been sure handed this year

I absolutely thought that was going to be a thing and a reason they kept bringing in guys with tool kits like that. Bottles the mind that nothing like that was even installed. Even the riders are trying to make Tommy Stevens a thing

He had a great play and then dropped a gimmie the qb dropped right into his arms.

People gonna **** on the D, and they didn't make plays to get themselves off the field.... But Montreal has a stupid O so part of dealing with that is actually staying on the field yourself... I doubt they even made it to double digit first downs and that's in game with plenty of garbage time. Can't blame the qb he did everything he could but Jesus Christ what an absolute abortion that was. Best player on offense in that game IMO was Chris-Ike.... At least he looked like he had a bit of give a damn. Daniels in to block and just does nothing and of course the qb is pressured and the play blows up. Never had a guy gotten so many chances and done so little with them.

The standings are a nightmare. Gotta string some wins together cause they're rapidly running out of margin for error.

just an insufferable douchebag. much like the rest of the riders. every time a pass went towards a receiver and wasn't completed it's palms up looking for a flag.

Kelly as depth = fine. Kelly as a regular = not so fine

We don't need Ford to change the ratio, we already use more Canadians than needed. You're looking at things in a vacuum. Don't forget there is a cost to retaining all those high priced guys too.

Probably not much different since Broxton is hardly a nobody at RT and Dobson didn't play centre here either.... We'd still have old man stan at LT with whatever random centre osh decided he liked... So is Dobson better at guard than Wallace? Hard to say. Would Ford look good in the secondary? Sure, but not like the guys they're using NOW are bad. Major Williams has been a major find. As for Lawler, obviously he would be good, but that's still just one guy cause if they kept Lawler then white probably isn't here and we still have the problem on dressing too many non-factor Canadians on offense.

Absolutely awful Smith is hurt. He's been such a good player. Also, is Wilson actually healthy? Cause sticking him out wide makes me wonder. Though still nice that it only took until what? Week 18 to start more than 2 Americans at skill positions.

Actually a pretty solid list. That guy is a straight shooter with upper management potential

GMs and coaches always work together... That is kind of the sign of a healthy environment. If the GM is always in there getting in the coaches business that's not great either. Honestly I think you're wrong on how dire the talent situation on the team is. It's not as stacked as it was during our grey Cup run for sure (you'll also recall that they did things the hard way grinding out close games that could have gone either way) but there's enough talent to comfortably be a playoff team. I think it's very easy to build a case that the coaches have had a problem getting the most out of the group they have but with a stacked and deep roster it doesn't matter . Good coaching isn't about winning with a loaded roster, it's about winning despite holes

Yeah Wilson is a ****** but as a colour guy he's pretty solid.

Yeah and honestly don't you want a guy down the lineup at receiver who might be a threat to actually make a play?

Consistent theme for these coaches is they've done everything on hard mode for the last number of years when they could have lowered the difficulty a bit with some strategic moves.