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Can we just split this into a new thread.... maybe a poll - who sucks more Nichols, Adams or the wind

Nichols longest completion of the first half was 9 yds. He did that once. One other pass for 7, all others were 5 or less. He didn't actually complete a 10 yards pass (and it was only 10, on 2nd and 15) until 8:12 left in the 4th quarter. His first big play, a 26 yard pass didn't come until after the 3 minute warning. How the coaching staff stood by this for as long as they did was baffling. But if the game plan was in fact to dink & dunk the whole way through, when it wasn't working, Nichols should be having a chat with LaPo when on the sideline and talk about "opening it up" . This probably never happened because it takes him out of his comfort zone of 5 yard passes. He can't scramble, he can't stretch plays with his feet to let people get open downfield, he can't recognize when to call an audible or point out a weak spot a D is showing, and when even the slightest bit of pressure gets near him, he folds like a cheap camping chair. This, for the extremely low price of 450K in 2019! I can't wait!!

Wonder if that included their bothers and sisters who refuse and get away with a slap on the wrist.

There might be language in TSN deal that gives a bump in the fees if a new team comes in. They will have a extra games to broadcast and will get more revenue.

Well, no. Unless you're referring to the WSF vs. the Riders, in which he also saw action and made two pass attempts.

Ah! I misunderstood. Well, that changes everything.

That's over the course of 3 years. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24076702/alliance-american-football-players-get-3-year-250k-contracts

I am in favor of compensation for fans.

I Id also like to see some form of compensation when you draft a Canadian in the first round and the player leaves as a free-agent after just 2 seasons. Depending on the quality of the guy there could be a compensation system similar to MLB.

If that's what you were trying to convey, maybe stop conflating QB performance with apologists and neolon green.

how long until FOX News loses Carlson https://deadline.com/2018/12/tucker-carlson-pacific-life-ads-mass-immigration-dirtier-poorer-country-fox-news-1202520607/

He was just a low level son, wasn't with the family very long, he really only got the coffee. He prefers children who don't get indicted.

It's that freakin' ghost bear thingy.

Another day, another White House doubling down on a lie......

I am not sure that expansion can happen and have any increase to the salary cap. Expansion will add an entire roster to league costs and no extra TV money until the current deal with TSN expires - unless the current deal includes an escalator for a new team in the Maritimes. TSN will increase viewership from that area for sure, so it might be in the agreement already. Even without that, where is the additional money going to come from to pay a higher salary cap? Except for Saskatchewan, Edmonton, (maybe) Calgary and Winnipeg, who else can afford to keep less of their revenue? The CFL is not owned by a group of billionaires, unlike all the major North American professional leagues. And, guaranteed contracts will not happen. Sign a star player for 3 years and then he goes down with a torn achilles (for example). For the next couple of years, you have no money to sign a replacement and have to live with rookies, or maybe even go into games with a shorter roster. Fans would rebel.

This debate over who to hang is unresolvable in this forum. We do not know and will probably never know who called what play, and who screwed up . The evidence is in the game film and the logs of the OC, and we will not see those. Part of O'Shea's modus operandi is to trot out platitudes and not tell it like it was. There is the need to not throw a given player or players under the bus, but the assembled faithful would feel a lot more involved if we had a sense of what was really going on and how it was going to be addressed. All we have is speculation and that gets old real fast.

Yup. And admitted he knew it was wrong to lie to the fbi. And yet there are still people arguing he didn’t know he was being interviewed so his lies shouldn’t be a crime. How about every time the fbi asks you a ******* question, you tell the truth. Oh and more good news for the Don

Slow day at the CBC.

Based on the first 33, Tanev's might get 15 goals . That's 2 million easy

Even if one of these leagues were to make a go of it for a couple of years, there's no way multiple leagues survive.

Tanev won't get $2M. That's absurd. And trade Ehlers...? LOL That's it for me, folks!

It wasn't Streveler's first playoff game, either. One play doesn't make or break a game, anyway. Should Nichols have thrown a crisper pass? Yes. Should Adams have not given up on his route? Yes. Both players share responsibility in that play not being successful. However, that one unsuccessful play wasn't the reason the Bombers lost the WF.

Maybe if you post it a thousand times the Nichols fans will get it into their heads.

The compensation was getting the Jets back

Plus a premium for every decade a fan goes without a cup win.

I'd suggest that a team from a metropolitan area as large as Toronto should see higher numbers that this when they play. An Argos game pulls in 503k. The average is 539k. If you take out Saskatchewan, which does tend to skew things a bit (easy to draw crowds when you are the only pro sport in the province), you still end up at an average of about 517k. The largest population center's team can't even manage average viewership. Yes, its numbers are not the lowest, but personally, I would have expected that if there really was a large fan base on TO, the numbers would have shown that, but they don't. For the TSN people, the real saving grace in that part of the province are the Tiger Cats. It's their viewership which seems to be the real driving force in Ontario

CFL stars are making more than the AAFL is paying. I doubt we lose (m)any of our stars to them.

That's BS. I blamed both for their overthrows and BLM for his. I attach more blame to Nichols because he's vet not a rookie. He was warmed up. It wasn't his first and only throw. He wasn't in his first playoff game. He's paid to make those throws in the big game. I was responding to a poster who was blaming Steverler for the loss, which is ridiculous.

I'd like to see the League Minimum salary go up and an adjustment to the SMS to accommodate that. The 'foot soldiers' need a raise more than the stars.

I can definitely see where the CFLPA has an issue currently with a cap that is designed around the lowest teams in terms of revenue and no revenue sharing model like in other leagues.

Every team is in that 500k range. Seems solid to me.

Meet the new raw, same as the old raw. Only with more McMahon’s. Oy vey

There was no salary cap so the rich teams could raid the poorer teams. The CFLPA was fine with it as a lot of players were making good money although most teams were hemhorraging money.

I know- 😉

the numbers would disagree with you when you say solid. Average would be more like it, and again, when you consider the potential market, not all that great: Here’s a look at the TV ratings for the nine CFL teams compared to their 2017 numbers for the same number of games along with their attendance figures. http://3downnation.com/2018/09/21/cfl-ratings-report-team-team-look-season-far/ Here’s a look at the TV ratings for the nine CFL teams compared to their 2017 numbers for the same number of games along with their attendance figures. Team Average viewership Percentage change (2017) Attendance change (2017) SSK 717,958 +14.2 -1.5 EDM 571,583 -5.4 -3.8 HAM 555,675 +3.2 -0.6 CAL 543,183 +3.6 -5.9 WIN 540,258 -7.24 -3.0 TOR 503,473 +10.39 +4.2 B.C. 500,964 -2.28 -4.3 MTL 477,317 +17.1 -11.8 OTT 449,750 +5.3 -3.5

I'm not sure if it's the same but in MMA some guys make crap loads more money fighting outside of the UFC because they can get their own sponsors and control their schedule and make tonnes more doing their own thing.

Virtually the same, yes.

Doing well in a game they've probably played and been coached in their entire life or a good portion of it anyway. The CFL is a different game, different rules, different places to place a ball, different balls even (though not so much anymore), more players, more movement, different types of D, different types of blitzes, etc etc etc. It is 100% not as easy as you're making it seem, to go from one to the other. Which is why the CFL doesn't have a multitude of QB's coming up that can excel in the CFL.

He lost because of 6 words: "read my lips....no new taxes"

Not a big fan of that rule. It will give teams with elite qb's a distinct advantage over the rest of the league. Its good the way it is now I think. We went from having the special player rule and paying guys like Flutie a million dollars a year to removing it and seeing guys like Burris leave because they were only able to make 150k a year in the CFL. The way it is now a QB who's special can get paid a lot of money in the 500 to 600k range. Teams who are lucky enough to have a qb in this range likely have to make sacrifices on the rest of the team which you saw in Edmonton last season. Its good the way it is i think.

So then why didn't you just say that? Instead we got this: ...."still don't have it right." well no ****, cuz they are different statements.

I think he may have moved past the ripen stage to the rotten stage.

I wasn't aware that knee injuries cause quarterbacks to repeatedly toss the ball to opposing players. The league and coaches need to be alerted.

Lots of factors go into QB performance. But given that Nichols plays behind what is arguably the best O-line in the league and gets elite QB money (+$400k) - his 2018 play was a real disappointment. It's likely the knee injury limited his performance - he often seemed hesitant, rarely got much beyond the first read and, once in the grasp had zero escapability. Once a defender got a pinky on him - he just folded. Also, Nichols never was much of a rushing QB. This year he ran 15 times for about 50 yards total. All of that makes it easier for defensive coordinators to counter. Nichols should be taking a pay cut going into 2019 so Bombers can take some $$ from the QB envelope to extend Streveler.

Where can I read about Nichols "severe" knee injury ?...... who reported that

Paul Bennett oughta be on this list IMHO https://www.cflapedia.com/Players/b/bennett_paul.htm

not sure if I had any respect for northern skunk before or not... but what I had is gonzo. dood. you literally preached how it wouldnt happen and that it's a horrible idea.. And yet they did and from what I understand.. they are selling like hotcakes.. take your loss and move on..

I said "hey we should make this a thing" you said "no it wont happen they wont want to be associated with the mob" I said "well i meant the fans not the club" then a fan and a employee of the team makes a really cool shirt with canadian mafia on it. so you're wrong at this point, huge. you said "well, once the club starts selling merch then maybe" wont admit your wrong. Then they start selling the merch, nope, you wont admit you're wrong. what is your deal? what is with the internet and making people totally absent minded and refusing to admit when wrong? jesus mary and joseph.

Willing to admit you were wrong now?