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I paid $35 on DAZN for this?

Given the new deal MBB better step up with a raise for me next year.

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Perkins and Elgersma both bring hope for the short and long term IMO. Don't expect Perkins to be much of a passer but think he'll have a big role and can run stuff for him. Elgersma has the pro arm. Be nice to see him with some receivers maybe next week. He kind of missed all our better Americans. Singer was in after, White in before.

Im ready for the disappointment of us being married to Jones-kyrie starting at mac/wil and DIing Ayers.

One series for Zach with one starting receiver through two games..... Not what I'd love to see.

I would have liked to see how Elgersma performed with a better supporting cast. Talk about not setting a dude up for success. Yeeesh.

Good, good, let the hate floooow through you. I am glad, though, I am happy to see the league under-rate this team. If we stay reasonably healthy and Zach performs at a higher level than the last 2 years, this will be the best team we've put on the field since 21 imo.

Perkins looked better and did more in one quarter than Wilson did in 3 seasons.

Both backup QBs showed glimpses. I liked Perkins as 2nd string game 1. He looked much more confident; did a good job moving around despite the pressure and generally looked more CFL ready. Elgersma certainly has the raw tools and showed good accuracy. I think we can be a bit patient with him. But who knows what preseason game 2 will hold. Should we legitimately be looking at Andrews for the punter position? Those punts were massive. And good positions too.

Thats pretty cool....Grud's knows his stuff ya gotta admit

Well, when you dont dress 1 defensive starter this is what you get

Well our QB depth chart is set. Elgersma QB2, Perkins short yardage and panic mode QB3

Banned

How great is it not seeing Chris Kolankowski as the starting Center? My condolences to the Hamilton Tiger Cats, You got suckered.

Sheed gets a player development coaching job in d2 with west chester pen. That dude was born to coach kids. I bet he gave the dr a motivational speech when he was born.

"Best and most impactful" is literally an opinion, not a fact. He was not the most productive receiver in the league in 2025, either by volume or on a per-game basis. He is what he is at this point and I'm really of the belief that he's more of an electric highlight reel receiver than a winner, not to say he's not productive but he's not a player I'd be looking to add to my roster. He's a target vacuum who catches a relatively low percentage of the balls thrown his way. One stat I've become a fairly big fan of is yards per target and Lawler registered at 10.02 last year. Dohnte Meyers 12.13, Justin McInnis 10.82, Nic Demski 10.88, Keon Hatcher 11.64, Dejon Brissett 10.67 all more productive per target and all with a better balls caught % than Lawler too ... Lawler wasn't even the most reliable target on his team, he caught less of his targets (59.7%) than Kiondre Smith (73.5%) and Tim White (66.6%) and to me, that's a statistic that becomes even more impactful when you consider that he was 2nd in the league in targets with 144. The only receiver who really even comes close to being as unreliable as him with a comparable level of productivity is Eugene Lewis. Couple that with the fact that despite being targeted 144 times, Lawler didn't even rank in the top 25 in the CFL in YAC. He's a highlight reel receiver, but he's not a winning football player. His numbers all point to the fact that he's productive, but he's also a relatively unimpressive player once the ball is in his hands and he's a drive killer. It's not a smear opinion on Lawler, I think he's a hell of a receiver and he's got some of the best go up and get it ability I've seen in a long time, but I just don't think it's anywhere near a fact that he's the "best" receiver in the CFL.

Unless it's injury related (and I think it was in Womack's case, but not sure about the two DL), bringing back our cuts after not giving them a look in the pre-season game is a bit embarrassing and just shows our lack of ability to really know what we're valuing when we scout players.

Not to mention the fact and I quote: It’s a f’ing discussion board with fantastic options at one’s disposal to block, ignore and/or engage at one’s discretion. I added f’ing for effect. :) Riders suck.

We all know the reasons why ZC had a resurgence after he came here in 2019. Top notch pass pro, a great running game and sure-handed receivers who also played the game tough as nails and complimented his style of play. The past 2 seasons, they have not provided him with anything even close to that. In fact, the offensive rostering and planning has been borderline inexplicable.

The only way for Elgersma to learn is thru mistakes. The learning curve is steep. Once he adjusts to the speed of the CFL game then he'll play a lot better. He'll have better days.

Not sure Osh' mindset going into these games..no vets get any work and we have had rusty starts due to it....And why give TE most the game, you see what he is about..Live arm...some pocket awareness but needs a lot of seasoning, and needs to just relax and let play come to him,,,,We then have Perkins playing with all crap really, so tough to gauge. I think he will be fine, he just needs to also settle in and play his game and not worry about show casing his arm...there were a few times he had acres of yards he coulda ate up but was too occupied with trying to show some passing chops and forced..or awkwardly tossed balls he didnt need too...play his game...roll outs..sprint outs...RPO stuff and his passing will look a lot better, as history in 2 leagues and college will show... Fredrickson as well...all game...while others got reps here and there...sure he caught a few but also muffed several and was basically fed 80% of the passes tonight...and did nothing with it really...both games...and basically does zero after the catch...like running in mud...The one drop was a direct result of his lack of athleticism and vertical...couldnt get his big body up to make the catch. Singer has won and should b the 5th receiver, as he is a returner, and sure dropped one he should have had but is explosive and has big play ability, and pair him with the starting Offence as the 5th guy...he will look damn good. I sure they will PR Fredrickson tho as they have some fascination with him I do not see. None of the oline guys made a case to be a starter...who and what they keep will be interesting Dixon and Jenkins I think made roster..who is the "starter" and who the DA is the question...and really irrelevant as both will see lotsa reps...as both can slide inside. Fletcher too made a case for PR at worst...versatile...moved well....was disruptive. Reese as well PR at worst....Best get off of any end we have and has a motor....Clinton too should be kept...he's good...fast...closes like a bullett. DB's are a crapshoot...We know we set with Holm...Nichols...Moxey...that other corner is the only question...Looks to me Williams is front runner and just looks most ready. Also have to consider Lamont as we know Osh likes his vets, and he did nothing to play himself off the team and that was playing with scrubs and guys who will be cut. Place him with the starting group and he would be just fine. And the fact we had Jaylen Smith in a 2 man safety role at times, and Vaval will be a DA and likely DB backup we prob don't DA an extra DB so it frees up Dline help. With Griffin...Smiths emergence...Kramdi at safety if we sustain a DB injury Griffin can easily slide out to one the spots and Kramdi or Smith take over SAM.... One thing i find odd was that all this talk and hype about Daniels...we basically ignored him and had zero involvement of him in passing game...like wtf?...See what he can do catching and route running...unless we hiding it for the real season it was a bit perplexing...and If they don't plan to use I have a a hard time seeing an AR spot for him as he really showed nothing in his reps we couldnt get with an extra olineman, or using MCI or Clercius as a TE Glad I was in my seat and didnt have to watch it...The use of the new scoreboards was good tho...basically full screen of plays....minimal ad interruption. And the new ribbon boards below the ring of honour and at field level are pretty nice and slick...stadium looks good...best in league by far for game presentation

It was the worst pre-season stream yet. At the beginning they didn't have CJOB in sync. The play was over before they started describing it. They showed folks in the crowd instead of the plays. Showed ads while the play was going on. Pure amateur hour.

Eh, we played almost no starters tonight. I wouldn't put too much weight on it. I worry we will be far from sharp to start the year though

Thankfully we won't have to watch 90% of these guys play another game.

Major Williams having a solid start

I think he's just expressing frustration (in his annoying way) over fans wanting to see some changes and then constantly complaining about the changes. How long have we said on here the CFL should absolutely be exploring streaming services? They not only get one, but they get one that is going to significantly increase league revenue while only using 1/4 of the games. Even if I was unable to get a free DZN stream, I would still consider this a win for the league. The sky is falling people will just never be happy until TSN pays 600 million a year to broadcast the game while using John Madden to do PBP. I'm not sure what the "use a streaming service" crowd thought would happen when the CFL got on with a company, but it would always cost money to see it.

If they make money now...and it has some success...even limited....it's a bonus and all good Of when the contract runs it's course, and the DAZN peeps feel they no longer wanna be a part of it...then so be it and you will adjust your teams revenue stream and everything involved accordingly....won't be demise of anything, and in that time maybe there will be new different options too....guess we shall see But going status quo with TSN as the sole distributor of the product had to change/shift, unless they did a total overhaul/revamp of how they go about it...and that was never happening. So the CFL is trying to branch out and find new ways and means to promote and get the product out there, and have added a buttload of cash to the teams in doing so...which isnt a bad thing by any stretch

It's one game a week. Not anentire season. If people are willing to stop watching the CFL over this then the league might as well just fold up its tent. Canadians sure like to ***** & complain about everything. Nothing is ever good enough. I'm on the fence as to whether I'll get DAZN but if I don't I won't stop watching.

I don’t think we can do it right now but if or when god forbid Zach gets roughed up, I’d trade a first and a roster player for Dru. I think Dru is a really good quarterback and he’s been absolutely left out to dry in Ottawa.

Because the greedy fucks who make decisions don't realize that people don't want 1000 subscription payments to watch everything. They want 1 or 2 places to get what they want. More than that piracy is more attractive.

I'm really curious to know why everyone seems to think DAZN is so low on the totem pole. They're huge outside of the US. Their NFL service in Canada is great. I hate the price, but the quality is amazing. no kidding lol just such unawareness

Yeah I'm not adding yet another subscription just for cfl. Guess it'll be cjob like back in the day and then wait for a pirated copy to hit the interwebs.

Sounds like $500 Million over 6 years. 66% increase over the last deal. Each team should get about an extra $3.5 million/yr.

really... the best receiver is CFL history is the best Bomber receiver you've ever seen?... what a bold take! 😁

Ooops...I thought I had Lidster on the PR/IR...I agree, and forgot about Ball. Personally O'd kick Korn and not even play him this next game...But I thinking how Osh likely would and you know he will keep him around Nah...all special teams aces...and you need that...Woodbey can play all 3 LB spots I am sure...and sure could slide to safety Same can be said for Ayers, and they both can do a quazi Jack type role all over the box Ideally I Would like to see Smith given the WIL role to start th yr and allow him 3 games or so to see if he is the answer there, and that would have us starting 3 Canadians on defence when only need 1....and you can freely rotate Ayers, and Wilson freely at any LB spot I was somewhat making my roster knowing Osh and his tendency for his fav's and vets....so if It was me I would role with Ayers in the Middle, and Smith at Will and the way we deploy guys Woodbey would be on field all the time as well in that role he played last yr. As well as spell off Smith for reps, and Shay could take reps behind Ayers. I'd actually cut Jones for one of the impressive rookies and allow for Shay and Smith even more playtime.....or at worst DA him...But we all know Osh won't...so thats why I slotted him in at MLB

Stars, Singer, White, Smith, Jenkins, Dixon, Williams, Woodbey, Andrews, and Lidster. Honorable mention to Perkins, MCI, Wallace and Clercius. Goat horns / cut, half the wrs, Pace, and Elsbury for sure. Crunch of the game, MCI on kick cover. HH, Clintons pick 6 that was crazy impressive. Awe thats dirty, Reese with 2 horrible decisions on hits. Golden leg kick of the game, tie between the 67 yard punt through the air by Andrews and the 50 yard FG on his first attempt by lidster.

They are gonna keep cutting Kornelson until they get it right. I retired 5 times until I go it right.

I think Perkins is the best option at QB2 for now...and if he is hope he gets real reps throughout the season too, as it will just get him acclimated that much quicker....but for his minimal time here...and working behind and with garbage for most part looked pretty comfortable I not as anti arm strength against hi as some...he has more than an adequate arm, and you dont need a howitzer to succeed, you need touch...be able to throw a guy open and place a ball....if he can master that, to go with his ability on the ground and I can see him being lethal with that up here we should be just fine as TE learns and develops And with this maybe being ZC swan song a more developed and capable Perkins who could possibly shows he is a legit starter rolling into 2027 camp allows us to not force feed TE into the fracass if he not really quite ready yet...and destroying his confidence...dude is young and licked up for 3 yrs...no need to rush it...let him grab it legitimately

All I ever see from Smith is making plays. Be criminal not to give him reps. Do you not want Canadian play makers?

Nobody is perfect, but there are people on this board who have the correct analysis / opinion, more often than not. In fact, some of the team's moves in the offseason, confirmed what people here have been saying.

For sure Elgersma is 24 years old. Stetson Bennet was throwing footballs in college until he was 26. Way too early to pass judgment, he certainly seems to have a good arm, and I like the way he keeps his eyes down field as he moves around in the pocket to create time, obviously my major problem with him was holding onto the ball too long but not an un common problem with young players. Lots to work on for sure but I’m not worried yet.

The law firm of Macleod, Bethel and Thompson.

Amen

Stuart was all over the field. The processing is just a step behind but he’s always in the right leverage and he’s always the guy finishing plays at the ball run or pass when he’s on the field. Contrast to a guy like Kelly who is indecisive, too often in wrong leverage as ball is moving out or up field even at year 3, play is always going by him. He can run fast in a straight line but has no football skills physically or mentally to succeed at this level. When it comes to who gets on the roster…..Stuart will be a great special teamer and the sky is the limit on D. I think he’s probably the best WIL/MAC prospect on the field today. But he was playing half in this one.

I'm not as down on the qb play as some. For elgersma he's got such limited pro experience, if he's got a decent head on his shoulders he can learn and improve. Rourke was pretty **** his first season in BC too. Perkins has some limitations but you can probably come up with a gameplan he was execute. If the Bombers can't establish a run game won't really matter who is at qb.

I agree - it wasn't bad at all. Good to see our new backup qb's - I'm optimistic for this season.

With that speed Gainer might be signed before the end of the game.

I do get great enjoyment from the OB broadcast though. Growing up listening to OB, especially the old late night shows (whistler, shadow etc) are a big part of why I love audiobooks and podcasts. Its also not really summer till I hear a TD blue bombers call on OB.