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Must have been quite an impression on your new co-workers when you walked in like this on your first day!

On the never ending who is to blame, MOS or KW, I once again say

Winnipeg Blue Bombers sign first-round CFL draft pick Nuer Gatkuoth - 3DownNation

"possible interest for 2027" sounds like a way to get a guy out of your office without making a scene.

I took Mike's post as a joke and thought it was so funny.

Just gonna say this... I was considering removing my last post but decided to stand by it. I have a feeling I may have earned a trip to the Principal's Office. I just want to say to all of you who take the time to go to Bomber training camp or practices & then come here to give us your thoughts & observations, thank you. You are appreciated. For those of us who live out of town or can't make practices due to work committments, your opinions are great. Without your comments, we'd know very little. Just what the Bombers want us to know through social media. It's great to read what you see. So, keep it up.

Great QBs on great teams don't screw things up. They play like game managers, make great plays themselves at times but let the talent around them win games. BLM may not have been as great if he had played for the Lions instead of the Stamps. Or with us from 2013-16. We were a wasteland at qb back then as I recall. Look what Collaros did in Saskatchewan. Virtually nothing. Then he comes to Winnipeg after another useless stint in Toronto as a washed up pivot & set the CFL on fire as a Blue Bomber in 2019 & 21. How good would Ken Ploen have done had he signed with the Alouettes instead of the Bombers. All the pieces have to fit in place even with the great ones to win. BTW, I think Matt Nichols doesn't get the credit he deserves. He came here for a bag of footballs as Ed Hervey felt he was washed up. Nichols turned the fortunes of the Bombers around. I'd like to see the Bombers recognize his contributions to making this organization a winner.

The Dominator

He needed to drop weight and it should show up on the field. I think he will take a huge step forward this season.

Gabe Wallace apparently started camp last year at 345 and ballooned as the season went on. This year, he's apparently come into camp at 325 after undergoing a strict offseason regimen. Neufeld says he's one of the strongest/most powerful guys he's ever seen.

Major Williams with a nice read and jumped route for a int...him and Burrell of the new guys to me look the best and most likely vying for that open spot as front runners...for now

Wallace has definitely morphed his body...moves way better. Its his job to lose in my opinion..looks way smoother than last yr I like they have Tui on the hands team for onside kicks ...lol...u would think Daniels be out there but not on this first unit

My initial thoughts after seeing that they cut McGhee was positive. Not that he’s a bad player necessarily, but I don’t see him being that guy that’s going to be a difference maker at the position. We brought in a lot of talent in the secondary and I’d rather give the reps to the young talent on this roster. In years past we would have pencilled him in as a starter because he was a vet. it would be painfully obvious he was a weak spot and he would be cut by week 3-4 im glad, wouldn’t mind them moving on from a few more vets if im being honest with you.

He has a QBR in the 70s without Lapo and a QBR around 100 with Lapo. I'm no fan of Lapo, but I live in reality. Lapo made the guy's career. He was a limited QB. When he was gunslinging he was almost 1:2 TD to turnover ratio with significant fumbling issues on top of INTs. Having a QB who could threaten teams vertically gave us the win in 19 behind that, Harris and the D. We don't beat Calgary and Sask on the road without that.

I truly don't believe MOS is deciding who is on the field in which packages on O or D. I don't believe that is how the team is run from everything we've seen and heard from everyone involved right up through Walters and Wade Miller. I believe he wields strong influence on who is on the bottom 1/3 of the roster for special teams purposes, Canadians and DI's. But of the guys on the roster, I believe from basically everything we've seen that his coordinators are designing the packages including WHO is on the field. I think if you want to glean something from our deployment on D the past few years it's that Younger doesn't trust rookies. Even most of the guys we've brought in off the street into camp or due to injury and rostered had extensive experience in the CFL. Younger will only reluctantly put a rookie on the field.

Nothing wrong with being a game manager at all. I wish ZC would lean into it at this stage of his career.

AND in all honesty...he played well in playoffs and if not for a seive defence vs..was it BC??...He would have pulled off a playoff win...we lost but not from his play. I bet his playoff stats are much better than ZC's in his time here

yeah he is gonna be key...A lot of people are really underestimating him due to the Global tag...but he is not actually your typical Global prospect...Teams were after him prior to it being realized he could be considered a global If one of the new DE's is legit, with WJ and the the Draft pick and Bailey being able to take reps, with neither eating up a DA spot...thats huge for us Not to mention Ceresna's ability as an edge guy as well

TIL Mike is Paul Friesen. Who knew!?

Yeah watching some the one on one drills today u definitely see his power when he locked into his guy...guys a beast. And he is noticeably more agile Big Stan looked good..as Usual...hard to imagine he pushing 40...If he is even 80 percent of prime Stan him and Broxton gonna be a force

How did 2019 so quickly become "the good old days" instead of a thing that just recently happened...

I think they've done the opposite quiet a bit. Bring in a vet...put him in the spot whether he's being out performed or not and wait until 3 or 4 games into the season before deciding to move on, sometimes forced to by injury even. For me it's a good sign that they got rid of him if they felt like they have someone else who can get it done.

And likely wont be his role, or need to be really. He will be speed off the edge, and a pressure guy but also prob has the ability to as well crash in on the line off the edge as a nice backside pressure hopefully getting to ball carriers before they get into second level. He's a guy we haven't really had in a while...a pure speed rush end...Interestingly enough Bailey is prob just as fast off the snap...if not faster and also can bull rush his way in and actually overpower an olineman...He's very deceiving body wise with what he possesses and a lot of people are totally under estimating him and what he will bring....He's a unique player. Gotta think we will see sets with Ceresna, WJ....Bailey and Gatkuoth as a 4 more man front and that will be a hard group for an oline crew to manage

I could see playing a guy who is "cold" and who has shown flashes of brilliance and trying to let the guy dig himself out of a rut. What annoys me is playing a guy who at best is a "C" level player and who is doing absolutely zilch on the field and refusing to give the next man up a legit chance to shine. O'Shea likes to give the next man up a "chance" on the last drive of the game when we are taking a knee or losing a game that is completely out of reach where the opposition is just dicking around.

I see rotational piece quality in both, this year, for sure. Idk about that. IF we are going for a run, stopping base, we would want Lawson and Ceresna on the field. Not really Nuer. He's undersized and has struggled to disengage blocks to get into the run game. If anything, that is a time I'd flip Ceresna to the edge, beside a tweener big like Fletcher/Young in camp right now. Even though he's undersized a bit, KMB is much better vs the run than you'd expect. I'd also look to the 30 front in that case, with 3 big bulls you completely shut the interior gaps and force the run off tackle to one of our many Wil type bodies. In 1 year, Smith caught Ayers in terms of playmaking. Which is no small feat. Smith's intangibles are off the chart, which, combined with top-tier athleticism and the right passport, should be a first-class ticket to major reps.

Jesus christ with the you have to earn it ****... what more could Smith have done last year to earn reps? By the end of the season guy was very noticeable every time he was on the field (pretty much only special teams). It's great to say osh will start a Canadian over an American but I don't believe that's universal. Osh loves veterans and guys who are established. He won't take reps away from them unless something forces his hand.

Matty Ice had a couple great showings in the playoffs. Like you said, just wasn't a team that was ready to win yet.

I think it is pretty common that if you are a defensive lineman on the roster that you are taking reps. Those guys are constantly getting after it and need to rotate. Not sure about LBs in Younger's system. They need to a bit more sound in their responsibilities.

Wait, so that means when that waitress said she possibly had interest in me, she was just trying to get me out of the place?

100 percent. Nichols saved Walters and O’sheas jobs, and without him we don’t build a team and culture good enough to win a grey cup. No way we land guys like Jefferson or Bighill without Nichols. Just to reminder people how dyer it was. We were 1-4, not a single winning season since 2011, only one winning season since 2007.. we win 10 straight games, and really the rest is history.

I'm all for starting 3 imports if that gives us our best lineup and then if Wallace becomes the 6th man even better as depth...but not at the expense of a import receiver when we dont have to. Starting an extra an unneeded Canadian just because is pointless and doesnt give us our best lineup. And sadly with Osh we know thats a distinct possibility. Same with I hope we dont waste a roster spot on a 7th oline guy as well with Daniels now here and other big bodies in MCI and Clercius...again that would be a wasted spot on a guy to not be used unless 2 olineman go down..and for most part teams deal with that with a convert off of defence. If Scmeckle is actually ready for season and we choose to dress an extra canadian dt...well there's his role...backup DT..emergency oline guy and interior knife on short yardage...

Imagine having 16 OL in camp and only 5 being Canadian. If you told someone 20 years ago the league would shift that drastically toward having Canadians play at LB/DB and receiver/RB vs OL/DL they wouldn't have believed you.

It’s actually sad how you and Old Man Nickel are so butthurt by literally anything I post. It was a joke and off goes Al with his “OMG and he’s a mod” whining and off goes GCn with his “he thinks he’s smarter than everyone” proclamations. Do you notice how everyone else was able to either just laugh, shake their head or ignore it and move on? Instead of putting a whole bunch of implications that don’t exist into the words I wrote? I don’t know if you two are just completely incapable of letting anything I post NOT get to you, but maybe you should try. Like I messaged Al earlier, I’m an “administrator” here because I helped (barely) Rich found this place however long ago we started it and if you were to ask any of the people (Rich, Joey, Mark, NOT me) who actually put in their time and effort keeping this site tidy, they’d probably tell you I don’t even know where the ModCP is to be able to do any moderator duties. Not once in ten plus years here have I ever leaned on anyone and tried to act like an authority, so I have no idea where his weird old ass gets that idea. And I guess I’ll just say this part out loud - I stopped being in tune with the goings on and day-to-day of this team a couple years ago, I don’t know sweet **** all about most things other than when I have a few spare minutes to read some articles so whatever “holier than thou” attitude you think I’m toting around … it ain’t there. I do see it from you with your constant arguing like you know everything about the whole Walters vs. O’Shea dilemma and I do think it’s funny that you are just about the only one here who doesn’t notice it, but hey … that’s not my business. anyways. Curious to see who breaks camp tomorrow. Go Bombers. Grey Cup in 2026.

To me he's just being a smartass... and yeah the point you make is there too it's not mean, it's just a humorous truth. Most people don't have the required background to properly judge what's happening at training camp. That being said I appreciate every single one of the accounts from camp even if they're full of crap, and all those preseason heroes Mike threw into the post is a fun reminder of how us fans get at this time of the year.

No one tell the commissioner about this

I think really 3 spots. Don't really want Vaval starting even if you are going to give him some D reps, and probably want a DI on offense (receiver) or DL. But I think this team is really built to start 4 American OL if the Canadians at receiver and RB are healthy. Griffin can basically count as a DB too so that gives him a pretty big leg up. I think he's basically on the roster. Kind of fluid in terms of position. Wonder if they might use Allen more at boundary corner and Kramdi/Griffin at safety/SAM as a base.

I for one am curious how the linebacker battle ends up. We've got Kyrie Wilson, Tony Jones, Ayers, Griffen, JSK and Woodby as Americans competing for two starting spots and at best 2 DI spots. Curious how it plays out.

all high profile defensive free agent new team tweets must feature a photo of free agent forcing a Blue Bomber fumble.

I wonder if he either wasn’t 100% or didn’t look good post injury. If he’s not physically toast i’d bring him into camp for a look. he’d be our 3rd best dt by a mile

I had a leftover day of vacation to use up so I rolled through the stadium today and concentrated on the offense Bryan Randall appears to have a leg up on the QB2 job, Darryl Hackney looked awful in skelly and throws an ugly ball Onterrio Smith looks like a total pro out there in the backfield, Ramonce Taylor looked good in limited action but seemed to disappear halfway through practice Justin Surrency catches everything thrown his way and seems to be a lock to make the team, he even made Roc Carmichael look silly on every rep they matched up for. Antonio Brown can run by everyone on the field but on one rep across the middle, Dwayne Slay lined him up and made him pay for it Tyson Pencer is a mountain of a man out there and will be a sure-fire ratio breaker at tackle if he keeps this up We’re going to the Grey Cup

Strength of the team is a tough one. Did Flutie ever start on a bad or average team? Do we downgrade Zach's renaissance because he was on a generational team? Does that, by extension, nearly wipe out Kharis' career? What about AC's loyalty to the Als or his willingness to remake himself late in his career? Something similar can be said of all the top QBs. Some of those factors are bigger than others. Imo, the big ones are Danny Mac just slinging it on so many bad or mediocre teams (while piling up the picks), Allen padding numbers like emmit smith while only having a small number of good passing years, Harris/KG padding on good teams and not elevating teams, and just the vastly different era for guys before Brock/Moon/Clements. Even that era, up through Khari to the modern era, is a massive change. Nothing is gained by reducing the greatness of any of those guys, though.