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He’s got a similar disregard for outsiders, and a similar stubborn arrogance. He hasn’t gone full kelly though and I don’t think he ever would. he’s also earned far more as a hc than kelly up here.

Strev 26/33 408 yards 5 TD Thomas 4 sacks Lawson Jr 2 pick 6’s

nah canadian college qb is not getting the call up after one season here, unless he throws for numbers that would make doug flutie blush. I think we all remember that time late in milts career when he was plastered over the middle and out old twitching on the field. then came two and jumped up but was clearly confused and wobbly. He played in a far worse era for player safety. He isn’t the guy to say some thing for clicks or throw out calls for retirement lightly. I understand what mos is trying to say, but I think all the needed info IS available. you have a qb who turns 39 in a couple weeks, who has been knocked out of games 3 times this year due to high hits, who hasn’t been 100% in about 2.5-3 years, and who has more concussion history than the entire rest of the west division. Not an exaggeration either. In grappling they say “every thing below the eyes is the neck”, in football especially for qbs/concussions every thing from the shoulders up is the head. if you get whacked in the neck, it jostles your brain. smashed with a clean hit in the shoulder pads, rattles the cage. So when you see a qb with concussion history’s head hit 3 times and once bounce off the turf, it’s a concussion issue. After concussions, every injury near the head causes issues. no such thing as close but didn’t cause issues at that point. Post concussion syndrome/ppcs is no joke.

Milt isn't saying anything that fans haven't been saying for years. He's not making any call as he has no say in anything - just voicing his opinion which is his job as a panelist. People don't need to know all the details to know that repeated head trauma is not good and ZC has had more than his fair share.

Who cares about five straight grey cups, we ******* suck this year to a pathetic degree

Imho all Milt is doing is offering his opinion up from a caring point of view. I think it's obvious that Milt is not intimate with the details, ZC is not obligated to listen to him but eyes don't lie in what ZC has endured over his career. I don't see how it's meant to hurt him or his family but that's just me.

I'm thinking it's more Milt has strong care and concern for ZC's long-term health than getting his likes up but that's just my guess.

Man, I really wanted Strev to be the guy. He's so likeable, personable, passionate and leaves it all on the field. To paraphrase Picard who paraphrased Melville, "If his chest had been a cannon he would have shot his heart upon it"...but alas he is not. He just looks lost out there. Hanging on to the ball too long and when he does finally pull the trigger you wind up suffering a minor coronary damn near every time. He's so likeable I feel bad for even stating obvious truths about him...but he just doesn't measure up to any other backup in the league. Will never forget the fire, passion and role he played in the Bomber's Cup wins but, in the words of Sinatra, "And now, the end is near".

The offense was much worse than the defense, there is no question about that. The teams that will win when 2 interceptions are given up in scoring territory, are few and far between. BUT - the Ti-Cats are a team that doesn't run the ball very much. They chose to run the ball and manage the game in the second half, because they knew they could. That speaks volumes.

It's sad watching Streveler play now. His game was built on athleticism, not being a great passer. And he's probably never going to be more than about 80% of what he was. He's not enough of a threat to do anything with his legs so there's so little attention paid to him by the D and way less space for the receivers to operate. And he's not accurate enough to manage a game to the point of being a winning QB in those conditions against a good team.

Not a single play on defense

I’m forever grateful for the ascent of 2016-18 and kings of the mountain 2019-21… but the last few endings have soured me on the Bombers saying they value the person/player first. When I read O’Shea’s quote from Tait, “But as of anything, any time a guy gets nicked up we are always going to put the player first.” Sadly my first thought was calling BS. I’m sure he thinks and believes this. However, his actions from ZC to Bighill, Bailey, Schoen and many others (even Wallace last game) show that maybe he doesn’t really know what that means… that or the Bombers medical staff is negligent or being overruled.

Good opportunity with Wilson and Weitz questionable....give em that extra week and roster Jones and Bailey....no?...

Not even sure why they'd bring the sex pest back. Arbuckle has been more than fine. Keep on rolling with him.

Go Bombers!

1 strev padded a lot in trash time, gave away too much to hamilton 2 Hogan another garbage game plan and play call 3 mos/walters for turning a historic dynasty team into… this. ch dexter lawson jr getting tackled by the turf twice on one play

[citation needed] We are talking about an Athletic Therapist... not an orthopedic surgeon or anything too right? His job is to do non-invasive tests and then refer him to specialists. It's not going to be malpractice if he goes 'his knee is ******' and the specialist agrees, and the team allows him to trot himself out there in a huge ass knee brace to approximate the support a functioning ACL would give him. It might rise to the level of malpractice he is failed to (or incorrectly gave) give the Lachman test, and then sent him back out there with a couple strips of KT Tape or something... but obviously there was a plan, go on the 6 game, attempt to rehab, go out there in a brace and give it your best shot. Some choice quotes about this https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/2025/09/05/schoens-2025-campaign-ends https://www.sportsnet.ca/cfl/article/blue-bombers-wr-dalton-schoen-out-for-season-with-torn-acl/ But I think this argument is starting to miss the forest for the trees... what is absolutely fact is that going into a crucial home-and-home series against your biggest rival, immediately after a game where your backup QB (who also was less than 1 year removed from ACL surgery) had to take significant snaps at receiver, they decided the best thing for the WR corps was trotting out someone they KNEW only had one good knee... it was mostly just dumb luck that he made it all the way to the end of the game or else we would have been seeing more of Streveler WR4 again. https://www.bluebombers.com/alain-couture/ It would be funny if a team had a page for their Head Athletic Therapist and didn't goose him up a bit "Hey this is our Athletic Therapist. He's pretty mid, but he tries his best and we love him anyways"

No, it's ok to trash him as a first reaction. There's probably something he deserves it for.

This was my only point... There's enough to complain about without becoming total lunatics.

ZC has always needed top notch protection to be effective. He moves well but he rarely gets rid of the ball quickly. He also needs more guys who are effective downfield. This year's struggling offense is not a surprise at all. If not for warriors like Olievera and Demski, it'd be dire straits.

I agree with most, Strev. Looked bad.....but so did Zach for the most part......I can't fully defend Strev. but our offence has been garbage all year.....including Brady's usage. I really believe the issues are far deeper than Strevelor...far deeper

In a home Grey Cup year. Heads should roll if that happens.

Love Streveler, but he’s not good enough. Not sure how that can be argued. If we roll him out again next week, I might have to join the group wanting a coaching change. Find out what Wilson is now so we’ll know before the offseason. I’m not optimistic, but I’d like to see.

Yeah why pay for the best WR in the league when you can get a beat up Schoen for 5 games at half the price? That's money well spent right there!

we are rolling 6 dl with 3 canadians. every other team is rolling 8+ with 6 or more imps, except for one team with a very good canadian pass rusher. We are the only team under rostering dl, and filling half the spots with fringe roster guys. truth. a couple people on here are soo lost in cognitive dissonance from their unwavering faith in the mafia doing no wrong and the fact we have been at best a fringe play off team for two years, outside of the insanely flukey stretch streak last year.

we are starting 9 canadians. we could go down plus use the naturalized rule. We also have ayers who doesn’t play D and isn’t a DL, and we have 3 back up imp dbs. wouldn’t be hard to rebalance the line to stick in a couple more imps even into the starting line up.

He might want to go back and watch the film on his ear hole hit. As for him charging that one of our lineman intentionally dove at his knees, I would suggest then going to his coach, get the gametape that shows it and submit it into the league for review.

They won't either. Milt just lost a son so I won't say anything about him. However, I think Osh is a freaking hypocrite saying tht he cares about player safety. Sure... Yeah, like what he did to Schoen this year. The Collaros finger injury in last year's Grey Cup. The injured he started & played in the 2023 Grey Cup. Some, like Biggie, Collaros, Alexander & Demski couldn't run. Osh needs to shut his pie hole when saying that injuries are no one's business but the team & that he cares about player safety because to me he doesn't show it. If the team announced injuries like they used to I believe this kind of bullshit wouldn't happen as questions would be asked as to why an injured player who is supposed to be 6 gamed are still playing.

Milt and Glenn as well. That 4 touchdowns on 4 catches is a game I'll always remember.

Listening to Oshea on CJOB I'm done with him. His act worked when the team was winning, but it's tired and played out. He was spouting off about "hey were the same record we were last year at this time, it's not the way we wanted but it's the same". There's nothing close to the same. I can't remember a game last year we scored 0 points in a half not to mention multiple times. The absolute inept offense. The terrible play calling. I gues the only thing that would be similar is the head scratching roster... that continues to get worse.

Knowing osh...Hallett comes on...Ball at half...Hallett plays lotsa dime

Zach Collaros maybe needs to read Matt Dunigans book... specifically the first bit about how his career ended...

Mos uncomfortable because people are calling out his MO and he can't just fall back on the wins and losses to justify it. Safe to save he's feeling the heat.

We will be ok...we will watch the film...know where we screwed up...and keep with the process...

There are other issues with his decision making that have nothing to do with Walters or recruitment. His decision, for example, to refuse to use the DA rule is baffling - like why would you handicap yourself and your team because you don't like a rule?

Could've, even before the cap increase. And even if we didn't want to give him that money, they should've dealt with that situation a lot better than they did. The case one point made me wonder, what would happen if you flipped the popular appologists arguement about guys we dont play/cut? Their claim, why hasn't "X" player gone on to become an allstar else where? Which I've countered many times by saying in league scouting is terrible these days. Look at bridges getting picked up but Dandy hasn't. Where are the allstars that should've developed from the guys we've repeatedly kept around? The guys like Case, Johnson, Bridges, etc. I'm sure plenty would counter with, well walters et al aren't bringing in a high enough level of talent. But why have our back ups given other teams back ups all they could handle while our starters struggle against the other teams starters in pre season? Why are teams going after our imp cast offs, but not our NI cast offs? How is it we have managed to un earth guys like wilson, Wheatfall, Clercius, Vaval(as a KR), Smith/shay, Griffin, Jay person, Tony jones, Cam lawson, and Matthew peterson? That is a lot of young talent from every avenue available that are good contributors, many of whom could do much more for us if we let them. Look at our depth chart. Look at the guys who are Penned in as guarenteed high rep starters who shouldn't be. The Kolas, thomas etc. Then look at the guys we've managed to dig up who are good in the last 2 years. Then look at the remainder of good roster guys (cadwallader to nichols etc). That doesn't leave you with spots for guys to play. No matter who we bring in and what they can do. The guys who've stepped up and excelled, have only done so due to injury. None of those guys came up and took the job of a vet. No one passes a guy above them on the depth chart unless they get hurt or cut. You can't beat a guy ahead of you on the depth chart here. No matter how he or you play. Rant off.

We'll leave it at this

As Ty Jones once said: "Turn the Ti-Cats into ***** cats!"

This wouldn't matter so much if they had more support and rotation.

“Jones! Adams! Woods!” ”Yes coach!” ”As you were… settle down now” 🤬

I am a somnambulist, and I expect the BB to sleepwalk through the next game.

and watching Wallace last game on fg unit trying to run and cover after the miss....no way dude should have been out there doing that...guy could barely run, and makes sense with a hip injury at 300+ pounds Vibert should have been in as that extra Oline guy...and also is a guy who can play center...could have tossed him in for a few reps to get a look....but nope ZC...finger...ankle...next yr we had Bailey..Demski...Scoen...Biggie...all could run let alone have any explosiveness or ability to cut/break.....3 yrs straight we played hurt guys for no reason

Its pretty obvious the injury...the extent of...not totally but he got knockedthefukout...and this the 3rd time...we know of this yr that he has been dinged good enough it cause some kind of head trauma...so much they yanked him from 3 games...sat out a game...and who knows if hes been rattled and nobody knew...some of his play this yr he seemed in lala land. And with our penchant of playing guys hurt for them to yank him...must been something significant or gave them cause for concern So Milt stating the obvious about whats maybe best for ZC and his thoughts on it are not out of this world and surely not in the minority..and really didnt warrant the response it got from Osh

MOS is an obstinate donkey and the more he talks the less I like him. As a guy behave how you want, I wouldn't care or comment but it's clear that attitude bleeds into his coaching. Well that's weird. Who would expect a bunch of speculation about a franchise QB's injury when absolutely zero information is forthcoming? He's well within his right to not share info but then to whine about people speculating is just being obtuse.

I don't think that Osh even listened to what Milt said. Osh ranted about Milt not considering ZC's family when he made his comments but that's exactly what Milt was doing. Milt said if that was his son, he'd never let him see the field again. He wasn't talking about Zach the football player, he was talking about Zach the person.

yeah pretty sure Milt isnt in the get as many likes as I can game

The biggest issue to me are both lines. Offensively, It's time for Stan to call it a career. Unless his play is as good or better than someone 10 years younger than he is he needs to retire. There's no way a Tackle approaching 40 can play as well as he did when he was 30. Kolo is a liability at Center. The next guy who can go. He can still be on the roster but as a depth player but not as a starter. He should be chained to the bench with a lock & key & someone drops his helmet in the Red River. Certainly, we know that there are veteran Centers out there available in free agency & we have to sign one of them. I think Neuf can still play but I'm on the fence with him. As has been said, he's one helluva tough player & we need that kind of nastiness out of our guys on the OL. Defensively, we have wasted Willie Jefferson over the past 3 years with the shitty Canadians that play beside him like Thomas. We've neutered what greatness he may have had early in his career with the Bombers when Nevis, Stove & Kongbo caused interior chaos on opposing OL's. Now, it may not be worth it anymore to keep him because of his age & salary after this season. What a bloody waste. The Bombers are the only team I know who deliberately weakened themselves defensively by never replacing someone like Stove, Nevis & Kongbo. Vaughters the same as he gets no help either. It's hard to criticize Vaughters & Jefferson when they have such dreadful Tackles beside them whether it's a 3 or 4 man front. Improve the DL & watch the linebackers & secondary flourish once more. And we'll shave at least 100 points off of our points against.

Kolo is on the ground for so much of the game it looks like he’s playing Nightcrawlers instead of football. I’d like to see how the guards do with a half decent C. Eli, Vibert, some American, whoever. That’s the swap that needs to be made before anything else. At least get someone there who isn’t physically dominated constantly, I can deal with the odd communication mishap or rookie mistake.

So with Kyrie Wilson... I love him as a player. For years I called him the most underrated player in the league... but given his age and injury history he isn't the future... so why not work our Canadians who should be the future in there?