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On the never ending who is to blame, MOS or KW, I once again say

Winnipeg Blue Bombers sign first-round CFL draft pick Nuer Gatkuoth - 3DownNation

"possible interest for 2027" sounds like a way to get a guy out of your office without making a scene.

I took Mike's post as a joke and thought it was so funny.

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Yeah watching some the one on one drills today u definitely see his power when he locked into his guy...guys a beast. And he is noticeably more agile Big Stan looked good..as Usual...hard to imagine he pushing 40...If he is even 80 percent of prime Stan him and Broxton gonna be a force

He needed to drop weight and it should show up on the field. I think he will take a huge step forward this season.

Gabe Wallace apparently started camp last year at 345 and ballooned as the season went on. This year, he's apparently come into camp at 325 after undergoing a strict offseason regimen. Neufeld says he's one of the strongest/most powerful guys he's ever seen.

How did 2019 so quickly become "the good old days" instead of a thing that just recently happened...

Major Williams with a nice read and jumped route for a int...him and Burrell of the new guys to me look the best and most likely vying for that open spot as front runners...for now

Wallace has definitely morphed his body...moves way better. Its his job to lose in my opinion..looks way smoother than last yr I like they have Tui on the hands team for onside kicks ...lol...u would think Daniels be out there but not on this first unit

My initial thoughts after seeing that they cut McGhee was positive. Not that he’s a bad player necessarily, but I don’t see him being that guy that’s going to be a difference maker at the position. We brought in a lot of talent in the secondary and I’d rather give the reps to the young talent on this roster. In years past we would have pencilled him in as a starter because he was a vet. it would be painfully obvious he was a weak spot and he would be cut by week 3-4 im glad, wouldn’t mind them moving on from a few more vets if im being honest with you.

He has a QBR in the 70s without Lapo and a QBR around 100 with Lapo. I'm no fan of Lapo, but I live in reality. Lapo made the guy's career. He was a limited QB. When he was gunslinging he was almost 1:2 TD to turnover ratio with significant fumbling issues on top of INTs. Having a QB who could threaten teams vertically gave us the win in 19 behind that, Harris and the D. We don't beat Calgary and Sask on the road without that.

I truly don't believe MOS is deciding who is on the field in which packages on O or D. I don't believe that is how the team is run from everything we've seen and heard from everyone involved right up through Walters and Wade Miller. I believe he wields strong influence on who is on the bottom 1/3 of the roster for special teams purposes, Canadians and DI's. But of the guys on the roster, I believe from basically everything we've seen that his coordinators are designing the packages including WHO is on the field. I think if you want to glean something from our deployment on D the past few years it's that Younger doesn't trust rookies. Even most of the guys we've brought in off the street into camp or due to injury and rostered had extensive experience in the CFL. Younger will only reluctantly put a rookie on the field.

Nothing wrong with being a game manager at all. I wish ZC would lean into it at this stage of his career.

AND in all honesty...he played well in playoffs and if not for a seive defence vs..was it BC??...He would have pulled off a playoff win...we lost but not from his play. I bet his playoff stats are much better than ZC's in his time here

It’s starting to feel like, a week in, it’s business as usual and we haven’t learned much. Still looks like we’re getting ready to trot out 8-9 Canadians for no reason and value experience above everything. It’s hard for these rookie Americans to get experience because irs a revolving door for them by design - we don’t give them experience and then fault them for not having experience. There’s genuinely no reason someone like Gavin Cobb or Joey Corcoran should be taking meaningful reps with the first team at this point in camp. If you can’t find an American rookie that can perform better than 2* Canadian prospects, what’s the scouting department even doing? And the lot default “they’re all starters and the Canadian provides roster flexibility” thing is so hollow, we don’t need the flexibility. We don’t even use the flexibility we currently give ourselves.

Love Woodbey, he’s a baller. Sky’s the limit with him

I think they've done the opposite quiet a bit. Bring in a vet...put him in the spot whether he's being out performed or not and wait until 3 or 4 games into the season before deciding to move on, sometimes forced to by injury even. For me it's a good sign that they got rid of him if they felt like they have someone else who can get it done.

And likely wont be his role, or need to be really. He will be speed off the edge, and a pressure guy but also prob has the ability to as well crash in on the line off the edge as a nice backside pressure hopefully getting to ball carriers before they get into second level. He's a guy we haven't really had in a while...a pure speed rush end...Interestingly enough Bailey is prob just as fast off the snap...if not faster and also can bull rush his way in and actually overpower an olineman...He's very deceiving body wise with what he possesses and a lot of people are totally under estimating him and what he will bring....He's a unique player. Gotta think we will see sets with Ceresna, WJ....Bailey and Gatkuoth as a 4 more man front and that will be a hard group for an oline crew to manage

I could see playing a guy who is "cold" and who has shown flashes of brilliance and trying to let the guy dig himself out of a rut. What annoys me is playing a guy who at best is a "C" level player and who is doing absolutely zilch on the field and refusing to give the next man up a legit chance to shine. O'Shea likes to give the next man up a "chance" on the last drive of the game when we are taking a knee or losing a game that is completely out of reach where the opposition is just dicking around.

I see rotational piece quality in both, this year, for sure. Idk about that. IF we are going for a run, stopping base, we would want Lawson and Ceresna on the field. Not really Nuer. He's undersized and has struggled to disengage blocks to get into the run game. If anything, that is a time I'd flip Ceresna to the edge, beside a tweener big like Fletcher/Young in camp right now. Even though he's undersized a bit, KMB is much better vs the run than you'd expect. I'd also look to the 30 front in that case, with 3 big bulls you completely shut the interior gaps and force the run off tackle to one of our many Wil type bodies. In 1 year, Smith caught Ayers in terms of playmaking. Which is no small feat. Smith's intangibles are off the chart, which, combined with top-tier athleticism and the right passport, should be a first-class ticket to major reps.

Jesus christ with the you have to earn it ****... what more could Smith have done last year to earn reps? By the end of the season guy was very noticeable every time he was on the field (pretty much only special teams). It's great to say osh will start a Canadian over an American but I don't believe that's universal. Osh loves veterans and guys who are established. He won't take reps away from them unless something forces his hand.

Matty Ice had a couple great showings in the playoffs. Like you said, just wasn't a team that was ready to win yet.

I think it is pretty common that if you are a defensive lineman on the roster that you are taking reps. Those guys are constantly getting after it and need to rotate. Not sure about LBs in Younger's system. They need to a bit more sound in their responsibilities.

Wait, so that means when that waitress said she possibly had interest in me, she was just trying to get me out of the place?

100 percent. Nichols saved Walters and O’sheas jobs, and without him we don’t build a team and culture good enough to win a grey cup. No way we land guys like Jefferson or Bighill without Nichols. Just to reminder people how dyer it was. We were 1-4, not a single winning season since 2011, only one winning season since 2007.. we win 10 straight games, and really the rest is history.

I'm all for starting 3 imports if that gives us our best lineup and then if Wallace becomes the 6th man even better as depth...but not at the expense of a import receiver when we dont have to. Starting an extra an unneeded Canadian just because is pointless and doesnt give us our best lineup. And sadly with Osh we know thats a distinct possibility. Same with I hope we dont waste a roster spot on a 7th oline guy as well with Daniels now here and other big bodies in MCI and Clercius...again that would be a wasted spot on a guy to not be used unless 2 olineman go down..and for most part teams deal with that with a convert off of defence. If Scmeckle is actually ready for season and we choose to dress an extra canadian dt...well there's his role...backup DT..emergency oline guy and interior knife on short yardage...

Imagine having 16 OL in camp and only 5 being Canadian. If you told someone 20 years ago the league would shift that drastically toward having Canadians play at LB/DB and receiver/RB vs OL/DL they wouldn't have believed you.

It’s actually sad how you and Old Man Nickel are so butthurt by literally anything I post. It was a joke and off goes Al with his “OMG and he’s a mod” whining and off goes GCn with his “he thinks he’s smarter than everyone” proclamations. Do you notice how everyone else was able to either just laugh, shake their head or ignore it and move on? Instead of putting a whole bunch of implications that don’t exist into the words I wrote? I don’t know if you two are just completely incapable of letting anything I post NOT get to you, but maybe you should try. Like I messaged Al earlier, I’m an “administrator” here because I helped (barely) Rich found this place however long ago we started it and if you were to ask any of the people (Rich, Joey, Mark, NOT me) who actually put in their time and effort keeping this site tidy, they’d probably tell you I don’t even know where the ModCP is to be able to do any moderator duties. Not once in ten plus years here have I ever leaned on anyone and tried to act like an authority, so I have no idea where his weird old ass gets that idea. And I guess I’ll just say this part out loud - I stopped being in tune with the goings on and day-to-day of this team a couple years ago, I don’t know sweet **** all about most things other than when I have a few spare minutes to read some articles so whatever “holier than thou” attitude you think I’m toting around … it ain’t there. I do see it from you with your constant arguing like you know everything about the whole Walters vs. O’Shea dilemma and I do think it’s funny that you are just about the only one here who doesn’t notice it, but hey … that’s not my business. anyways. Curious to see who breaks camp tomorrow. Go Bombers. Grey Cup in 2026.

Jordan Herdman-Reed and Thiadric Hansen both cut in TO. I don’t think we need either one of them, but interesting. They also cut Spencer Brown, who started a bunch of games for them. Got off to a great start, but faded badly after that.

I don't want a player in TC that doesn't believe he can win the starting job. All Nuer did was say out loud what every single guy on our roster secretly thinks. Being a high level football player REQUIRES confidence in yourself.

Yeah NIL money is why guys like Pavia are more than happy to spend 6-7 years in college. Next to the NFL, it's their best bet to make big money.

Seems like a cool idea....

That 2019 playoff defense was just scary good. As dominant a D as I think we've seen. Hamilton was a pretty damned good offense that season and the Bombers D made them soil themselves.

Smith definitely deserves on defense...and not just token ones...was one of the top ST guys in league last yr...Made plays in limited reps on defence and the game where they got a lot of playing time at end of yr looked right at home. He can play multiple spots and we have to allow him to grow into them this yr. By season's end I'd have 3 guys on the roster who were our best and most versatile and guys who should be key contributors in the second level...and they were Woodbey, Griffin and Smith, who vaulted right up the depth chart and him being Canadian is a huge bonus. He will do us no harm at all at either Wil...SAM and I bet a strong safety type role when we run basically a free and strong lineup.

I was at that game. Matty Ice was red-hot, we were up and down the field all game. Classic CFL playoff game except it ended sad for us. 100% Matty deserves recognition and fan love but he's not an all-timer.

I'd put Matty Ice in the Bombers HOF but definitely not the Ring. He's one of the most underrated performers from this glory era.

No big dawg she was interested! Keep your head up!

I think we're really built to use 4 American OL if that's the best option....and a "backup" American at receiver that can be out there most of the game if we want based on using the roster rules. Also ALL our OL depth is American. Like if Neufeld or Eli say "sorry I'm done" tomorrow or someone tears their bicep, all we have to go with are Americans. Ultimately not going to matter how many American receivers out there if the interior OL is getting driven back and not letting QB eyes get downfield. Not that it isn't always but I think the lesson learned the last couple years is the offense relies on controlling the line of scrimmage. We saw that slide a little bit and really struggled to find any consistency pass or run.

Yeah I can’t see us going 7ol, mci, peterson, clercius and daniels. Just too many big blocking bodies. Plus Schmekel. Those other guys bring contribution to other areas, a 7th ol is just too much roster waste. If we start vanterpool or randolph at guard, and have wallace as the 6th, we have guys who can slide in at C or bump over to T and cover all spots in case of injury.