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Well doesn't that mean he has to sign here first?

Do not like how he lumped Corcoran in with Clericius. Clercius is a wr with tremendous raw tools who has caught everything thrown his way. Corcoran is like Wade Miller on a low-battery mobility scooter.

I agree... he's a guy I wouldn't mind moving on from... but nothing wrong with bringing back a reliable vet and special teams ace... as long as he never sees the field on D

It is, but the thing about the NL is those guys could sit for 2-3 years or be removed in 2 weeks without an offer. It'll come down to what kind of ends we sign and if/when/how many Nts/Dts we bring in. I mean, do you understand the physical toll and wear that playing 0-1 and 4i puts on your body? The transition from 3 tech to 0 is extremely rare amongst pros, and non-existent for guys 30+. They ran less 30 front in 23 in edmonton than we did last year. That year, they used Ceresna all over the DL in 40 fronts. That was also maybe the worst D in the league in 23. I detailed a bit of the issue with 4i vs 3t. It is a gigantic difference going 1-on-1 with a Canadian guard vs playing the gap between the T and G. We ran as much assymetrical nose based 40 fronts last year, and significantly more in all the years prior to 24, than we have 30 fronts. On the bombers site it sounds like they plan to keep broxton on the left side, slide stan to right, and have Rando battle for rt/guard, while Vanterpool also battles for a guard spot. If we go 3 imp or more on the OL, and stay reasonably healthy, this team is gonna be worlds better than what we saw the last 2 years. Back to winning games in the trenches. Also, we are gonna maul teams in the pre season. our 2nd team OL unit is crazy deep.

"Seeee myyy Vets, see my Vets, they're all aging like the rest"

Hi, I'd like to introduce you to Mike O'shea. Head coach of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers.

he was horrible in the blocking and run aspect of his role tho...also did nothing after the catch...and really scared nobody...If we going 3 Nats he cant be one of them...We'd be better off using MCI as a fulltime FB/TE type guy.....and actually I wish we do....He'd offer wayyyyyy more and would have to garner attention...Corcoran would garner as much as one of the posters here out there running routes...I bet there are some faster This just another case of Osh and Walter's by extension trying to make some marginal player they love to be something....Like Fetch.....hahaha.....he is now known as Fetch he scares nobody and garners even less attention out there...as after the catch he does absolutely nothing....I'm sure he tries hard...guys like him...the usual drivel we fed but at this level and as a pro on a roster you should be trying hard, and relatively liked...or why the **** u even here??

In my humble opinion, the CFL, especially Commish and his team, need to do a way better job at providing an environment and market where elite players know they can carve out nice careers in the CFL and spend less time f'ing around with the rules ffs.

he is, you can do worse for end of the roster canadians. That said I think it’ll be a battle in camp, they like ball and kelly too. One things for sure, we don’t need teams playing back up canadians. we need rotational guys.

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There is a very recent development for athletes (mostly football and hockey players) who have been diagnosed with a variant of Traumatic Brain Injury- Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy, AKA CTE. As most if not all here are aware, this is a terribly debilitating condition caused by repeated impacts affecting the brain and to this point, nothing could be done to alleviate the suffering or effects. There is now hope. Researchers at the University of Utah have reported dramatic and lasting improvements using near-infrared light treatment. The treatment so far is in its infancy but has shown great promise and is non-invasive. Matt Dunigan ought to be very interested.

Such a massive signing for the club....

Lawson is really good. Though his versatility between being able to play all the dt alignments are his greatest strength. The issue is, you need 800-900 snaps easy from the nose in a 30 front. Lawsons peak is 550. Even if he stepped up to the 800+ and held up, you need insurance policies and some one who can spell him. The whole off season is winding into the point of, will he or won't he, when it comes to mos finally rostering the best players.

Why on earth......?

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If you watch Perkins in the UFL the offense is basically zone read or a fire drill every snap (there's tons of UFL stuff on YouTube, you can basically find every snap he took). I don't think he'll be able to do much from the pocket in the CFL. The ball doesn't move quick and he never sets his feet so the ball doesn't get anywhere on time or accurate. He's a fadeaway passer, lobs the ball. He is a complete run/scramble style QB. So he's not going to be able to function in an offense anything like the base offense we will be running around a guy like Collaros. But you could build something around him as a backup that relies on Zone Read, either hand it off, run it or chuck it up hope someone runs under it. The intermediate pass game will not exist for him at this level.

dont think Wilson tho really been giving a chance....he showe something in yr one...has poise and presence...best arm....but last yr with Dinglenuts as OC was a waste and everyone actually regressed...Make or break for Wilson tho this yr...and I actually think Perkins is gonna look impressive....so if Wilson doesnt shoot the lights out and look legit, he likely gone Elgersma is a project and really shouldn't be counted on anything but that this yr...or even next if he signs....He is a CIS trained QB who had some success in college against 85 percent of players who were glorified high school stars finishing off their football lives, and a big part of his success.....and hasnt played meaningful football going on 2 yrs now....No CIS QB is gonna be a factor early on in career...if ever. People like to push it...TSN especially and when has it happened....Just look to recent with FORD....Uber athletic, all the things you want in a pro.....Except abilty to make it work in the pros...looked good against Canadian College kids.....but in pro's a different ball game Elgersma sure has a better arm....even still tho....doesnt compute to immediate success and to expect it right outta the gate....is just asking to flop

Got two tickets to Touchdown Kelowna on June 27th which is my birthday. A friend of mine is a Stamps STH & since he was going with his 2 young sons, he got two tickets for my wife & I. That should be a fun weekend. We haven't been to Kelowna since 2017 when my son was an Asst Coach with the Okanagan Sun. Be interesting to attend one of these CFL niche games. More power to Lions owner Amar Doman for trying to grow the game in BC. Unlike that trash ownership in Toronto who do virtually nothing for the Argos in Southern Ontario.

Rumoured fight? Is this from the Trust Me Bro source?

Corcoran had 4 catches for 49 yards in 2 pre season games, hardly lighting it up or making play after play. Myron Mitchell was the guy getting hype all camp and he was cut. Wheatfall with 8 for 116 and 2 TDs was the most productive receiver in pre season. My point, if we go 3 NI starting at WR, one beter not be Joey. I'd also prefer we find better depth than him.

I always overcomplicate solutions like this, but here is what I would do. If a draft pick get an NFL camp invite or NFL combine invite, they are automatically qualified for "Super rookie" status. The salary range for them then goes up to say 90-120k. 2 years of CFL rights, with the NFL window still after year 1. Any player who makes an NFL PR or AR is treated like any veteran FA, but with exclusive rights held by the drafting team.

We need to draft a wr this year, who is actually a primary pass catcher with potential to start and be average or better. Cobb is at least average for a backup WR. With some attributes. Its insane that they put Corcoran above cobb and on par or better than clercius.

Woodmansey got $300k per year from Elks.

Can't even call him Mayor Mc Cheese. Right now, he's more like Council Member, Mc Cheese.

100 percent would take a flyer on him. If he is even 80 percent of the player he was before our receiving core looks dangerous.

It's pretty sparse. Ulm, DeMontagnac will probably come north right away. If they look reasonably decent at pro day's/combines they'll probably be gone in the top 10 picks. There's a solid guy on Laurier who will be at the combine. The rest of the combine guys aren't huge prospects but might make themselves into one. There's also a random guy from Texas with Canadian parents who has never played in college.

That would be sick, I'm hoping we go 3 canadians. And hoping that the last game demotion of clercius wasn't us getting stupid with the roster again. If Corcoran ever starts again %^&$ should hit the fan. The old Rod Black-Out. Yep. And the good news is, currently, we look to be better at every single position group save for QB and RB. And we might end up better at QB once camp rolls by. Rb, well, it would be damn hard to improve on that. If MCI starts putting it together, though, watch out. If he had like a 400-500 yards rushing at 5 per and 100-ish receiving yards, with his size, athleticism, and already much improved blocking, he would be NFL-bound.

we need to land Gittens...Go 3 Cdn receivers if possible....gives us way more flex ratio wise and allows us to roster impact guys on defence for rotation...and Smith and Shay should be more than adequate to be used in roles that Ayers and Woodbey took last yr...further strengthening our flexability and get useful DA's on roater...Idf they not trusted, or gonna be neglected...then WTF they doing on roster...we have seen enough of a roster with middling teamers who get zero reps and chance to produce...let alone develop...thats piss poor coaching A White...Demski...Pookie...Gittens...Neild/Clercius combo with Cobb and hopefully someone not named Corcoran as depth would not be a bad thing at all with BO lugging the rock...and use of CDN guys like Shay and Smith in roles that Ayers and Woodbey took will allow us to roster another guy like Taylor or Banks...Especially if we use Vaval at corner...freeing up his DA spot...I have zero concern/issues with him doing dual duty.....not like it's never been done before in the league

Wheatfall was very inconsistent. He'd disappear for games only to come back, have a couple of strong game just to disappear again. For a second year receiver that's not good. Now huch of that was Zach not having any confidence or numbnuts Hogan as OC? I guess we'll find out with a new team & qb throwing to him.

I like Walter's work this yr, and he is kinda setting the table and taking away some of the past inefficiencies...that being said, until shown different from Osh....I just cant trust yet in him doing the right thing...let alone the smartest, and you nailed it and if JSK has to take a back seat to any one of Jones and Wilson....then Osh should get and deserve all the crticism possible I think we may see a lot of variations of the 30...Ceresna can handle "some" nose but not ideal...so hopefully we unearth a body mover/consumer Cersena tho in a legit 30 would be a really nice piece on one end for reps, and if we have the legit nose will thrive in that part of his role...he did before already Gonna be interesting what JY cooks up as our kind of defensive identity/base...We seem to be piling up a glut of larger bodied LB's for this camp and how they all shake out and who/what is kept is gonna be interesting

If Zach stays clean, and trusts it, I still think he can surgically rip teams apart.

Haaaaaavvvveeeee you met Osh?

he is not a 30 front nose tech. Not in his prime, or now. He's a 3tech. If any thing in a 40 you'd slide him to the edge. He has played some snaps in his earlier days on the edge in a 30 and 40 in a pinch.

JSK is two years younger and better than Wilson, so I don't hate it. Don't know why they re-signed Wilson still though

Regardless of who takes our #2 spot this coming season, my hope is MOS and company have a little less anxiety in using QB2 when/if ZC consistently struggles during the game.

That's pretty much how I expect it to go down as well - ZC, Perkins, Wilson with Artopoeus or Thorne on the PR. Might get interesting if Elgersma does show up at some point though - would they stick him on the PR where he could be poached or would he bump Perkins or Wilson from the AR?

Pointless picking any of the remaining scraps up...serves zero purpose really and we need to just go with our guys and like mentioned by other's...give whoever comes out as number 2 actual playtime during the yr when we can....and just doesnt have to be in a blow out, or an end of game pointless reps Be it Wilson...(does he step up) as he has the best arm in camp, though have yet to see Perkins up close...Or Perkins who I may think actually impresses and isnt the typical kinda first yr i the pro's guy we usually bring in....Looking forward to the battle with him and Wilson...The greek kid gives me no sense of him being anything, and likley cut, and the other nice intriguing rookies we signed are just that....future prospects and a big nothing burger for this yr Where we failed in past...and not just at QB is giving backups and guys with potential no meaningful reps ...ever....that has to change

I don't really see the purpose of bringing MBT in right now...If Collaros goes down for a significant amount of time and the guys behind him flounder, then sure get a vet who has shown he can be competent. But right now they'd be better off giving as many reps as possible to the young guys they have.

Don't forget Elgersma is also a possibility. Walters believes they might get more info on by the end of the month when NFL teams are done signing futures contracts.

For backup qb MBT. For receiver Kurleigh Gittens Jr.

Buddies and I laughing about it being the most Osh move ever... "If our aging vet goes down, we need another equally aging vet to replace him!" "But Osh, we drafted two young stud LBs that need the reps...." "Aging Vets!!!"

100% disagree. It's one thing if you have someone like prime Streveler who can be really effective in giving you that kind of look that can put a D off-balance. But for the most part you're not getting that level of production from backup QB's. They have so much information and pictures available now instantly that this tropey **** about "seeing some snaps from the sideline" and putting the backup in just to provide that has no purpose. If you have a weapon like prime Streveler (he was not that guy in his return from the NFL in 24-25), yeah use him. But that's pretty rare. I don't think you'll see someone play consistently bad and not get pulled if there's a belief on the team that the next guy up would perform better overall.

that would be a big surprise to see. Dude lets players play through their struggles and doesn't even like to take out Collaros when the Bombers are on the good side of a blowout. Not pulling struggling Zach doesn't bother me so much -- Zach's upside is far far far greater than that of a Terry Wilson or even a Streveler. Multiple times over his career he's gone from zero in one quarter to hero in another. If it was someone like Taylor Powell or MBT or Brown on the bench behind Zach, someone who's proven he belongs in the CFL, I might feel different. So unless MOS abruptly changes his ways, only a ZC8 injury will result in significant backup reps. Zach has been actually been pretty durable the past few years -- started all 18 games in 2022-2024 and started 13 last year, and one of his missed games was the BS piss test one.

Or in swapping if we are late in a blow out

Sure. These are the drop-back snaps for QBs who were the QB3 overall or at some point. BC, Masoli had 91, Brice had 4. Cal, walker 66, vaughn 32, love 8 Edm, snider 0 Ham, Dole 0, powell 9 Mtl, Morgan 98, Evans 37, Dukes 2 Ott, Adams 69, Shiltz 57 Sask, Coan 9 To, Duggan 20, Horn 14 Again, Wilson had 26. Pretty bad for sure. Bellefeuille was a chunk better than hogan still imo. Wr core, bit of a push imo.

Robustelli went to Edmonton. And I'm really doubting the bombers are major players after what they've already done. Sounds like they might grab some cheaper smaller pieces, but nothing major...

Wrs, I believe these are what’s left: Rambo, bridges, daniel’s, henry, addison, rhymes, gittens and robustelli. Of those guys, rambo, robustelli, and bridges would be great combinations of value and fit. Rhymes and Gittens are likely out side of our price range. Rambo is my favorite of those 3, but who ever will come in to fight for a spot and do the dirty stuff at a good price would be best. For pass rushers i’m including 40 ends, 3-4 ends and 3techs. We have the coaching staff and pieces to move guys around and capitalize on disruption from any where. Shane ray is the coveted guy remaining, probably out of our price too. Cox from the riders is very under valued imo, Lanier could flourish is more limited reps he might help flip our DLs soft personality and push our culture there, Mauldin is a reclamation project but a guy who can elevate camp as a mercenary needing to take a job. Of those guys, I’d really like cox, mauldin or lanier. Cox is the best player to step in for sure. Onyenka would be a real nice depth/teams fit, especially if we don’t manage to draft some one who can play. We could also go and look at the guys from the past 2 years drafts and haven’t gotten a chance or enough reps. We’ve had a couple good trades sending picks for guys like that. For guys like that, Ojo, brubacher, okpoko, Newell, harris, hubert, hergot, ageli, or von muehldorfer. Some of those guys are teams dudes who you need to polish into limited rep use. Some are guys who can get after the qb in limited reps, but you should polish into more useful teams/back end roster guys. Of those I like Newell, Brubacher, Von muehldorfer and silas hubert. Our dl is soo thin, we need talent, especially canadian talent. We have a starter and no guy who is a starter if he goes down.

Winners = Winnipeg and Ottawa (both improved areas of need ) bombers got the best OL and DL available. They also improved cdn depth slightly by signing Nield (more than slightly) and grabbed a realiable veteran cornerback. The only question mark with the bombers Is backup qb but options appear limited. Bombers signed all their important free agents and every one is well minus Kyrie Wilson but if the worst move is signing Kyrie who is a solid veteran leader to a 1 year deal. Then yeah bombers are winners Losers = Hamilton and Saskatchewan ( they lost the most players) maybe Toronto also as losing RD and McManiss is 2 huge losses. The rest id keep in the neutral to stayed the same category.