Bigblue204 Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 6 hours ago, brett_c_b said: Maybe I'm a ****, but you put your sons long term health at risk by not deciding his health mattered more than football and picking a treatment option that was better for football than for his health. Holy smokes judgey Mcjudge Atomic, blue_gold_84 and SPuDS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 Great stories @SpeedFlex27 and @Booch... always interesting to hear from people who have been there ... hope flex jr is doing well these days 😊 SPuDS, Mark F, SpeedFlex27 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 9 hours ago, brett_c_b said: Maybe I'm a **** You should have stopped there and let it be somewhat of a mystery, rather than continue and remove all doubt. SPuDS, Bomberfan85, GCJenks and 7 others 5 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 11 hours ago, Booch said: Yup..very hard and I pay for it now...I need a knee replacement...was told that in my mid 30's that I needed it and had the wear and condition of a guy in his 50's.. and also have hip pain from favoring it all those years...lack of range of motion in a shoulder causing sleep issues now...random headaches and general aches and pains and from constant trauma over the years...remember my dad telling me that I'm gonna pay for it later in life...but not heading the warning..lol...its tough to let it go and move on..I still would get out there now if someone would let and if had a chance to do it over again..I would..bizarre as that sounds! The NCAA doesnt truly care for its players.. trust me on that Thanks to you and SpeedFlex27 for sharing your thoughts here. This is important to me as a father who has a 14 year old son in football for the last seven years, the game is getting bigger and faster for him and he has pretty lofty goals and aspirations with football right now. So much complexity to consider in how I support him. SpeedFlex27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 No problem...football has given me a lot and allowed me a lot of opportunities and if handled smartly and not falling into a lot of the negative trappings (higher level opportunities that a lot never get to achieve) then there is no real risks if you ask me if played smartly and monitored wisely like things are now. Back in the late 80's to 90's when I was balling it was all about results..competing and $$ with no regard for the negative impact that getting the aforementioned resulted in guys. My one bit of advice is if the injuries start to become too frequent, and are significant ones and start to compound then maybe sit down and revisit things..goals..priorities and realistic chances of getting to next level, or the ultimate level. My football paid for my school..and career and some brief stints trying to be famous, as well as some good lifelong contacts and opportunities, but it did come at a price. A combined 8 knee surgeries on one (2 reconstructions) 2 on the other, a broken hand twice, 4 known concussions, 2 busted noses...total shoulder dislocation, loss of two mollars (thsats a weird one eh?) and various bumps and bruises to go along with lugging anywhere from 245 to 280 pounds of bulk around and the wear and tear that takes on you for 15 years I have already seen now that I am paying back in my health and ailments now...did i enjoy it and would I if I had a chance to do a re-do do it again...I'd say that's a hell ya....was it worth it?...hmmm...I dunno because in the end it didn't make me wealthy and I didn't get famous hahahah johnzo and Mark F 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 8 hours ago, bearpants said: Great stories @SpeedFlex27 and @Booch... always interesting to hear from people who have been there ... hope flex jr is doing well these days 😊 Yeah, he is, thank you. He is getting married July 7th in Portland, OR to his fiancée that he met in 2011 while playing football at Junior College in California. The Classic and bearpants 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 14 hours ago, Booch said: Yup..very hard and I pay for it now...I need a knee replacement...was told that in my mid 30's that I needed it and had the wear and condition of a guy in his 50's.. and also have hip pain from favoring it all those years...lack of range of motion in a shoulder causing sleep issues now...random headaches and general aches and pains and from constant trauma over the years...remember my dad telling me that I'm gonna pay for it later in life...but not heading the warning..lol...its tough to let it go and move on..I still would get out there now if someone would let and if had a chance to do it over again..I would..bizarre as that sounds! The NCAA doesnt truly care for its players.. trust me on that Booch, I totally understand what you mean about doing it all over again. When you're in your early 20's you feel indestructible. And being in your 50's is still 30 years away. To a kid that is an entire lifetime. Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 yup...40's now...I am still indestructible...lol....I think...or would like to think SPuDS and SpeedFlex27 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Booch said: No problem...football has given me a lot and allowed me a lot of opportunities and if handled smartly and not falling into a lot of the negative trappings (higher level opportunities that a lot never get to achieve) then there is no real risks if you ask me if played smartly and monitored wisely like things are now. Back in the late 80's to 90's when I was balling it was all about results..competing and $$ with no regard for the negative impact that getting the aforementioned resulted in guys. My one bit of advice is if the injuries start to become too frequent, and are significant ones and start to compound then maybe sit down and revisit things..goals..priorities and realistic chances of getting to next level, or the ultimate level. My football paid for my school..and career and some brief stints trying to be famous, as well as some good lifelong contacts and opportunities, but it did come at a price. A combined 8 knee surgeries on one (2 reconstructions) 2 on the other, a broken hand twice, 4 known concussions, 2 busted noses...total shoulder dislocation, loss of two mollars (thsats a weird one eh?) and various bumps and bruises to go along with lugging anywhere from 245 to 280 pounds of bulk around and the wear and tear that takes on you for 15 years I have already seen now that I am paying back in my health and ailments now...did i enjoy it and would I if I had a chance to do a re-do do it again...I'd say that's a hell ya....was it worth it?...hmmm...I dunno because in the end it didn't make me wealthy and I didn't get famous hahahah I think you have to look at with this perspective. Football gave you your education. You got to travel & see places others wouldn't. You were part of a dynamic organization ( your team) as well as coaches. You learned how to handle pressure. You learned to rely on others & set goals together. Football gave you toughness, work ethic & discipline that no doubt served you well in later life. And you met a lot of great people including teammates & coaches. You formed relationships. Some that will last a lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Booch said: yup...40's now...I am still indestructible...lol....I think...or would like to think In my early 60's. I have come to the realization that I'm mortal. That perhaps there aren't a lot of twists left in the road ahead. But I'm totally okay with that. I'm not roadkill yet but whatever happens, whenever it happens is okay. Edited June 1, 2018 by SpeedFlex27 Booch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted June 1, 2018 Report Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said: Thanks to you and SpeedFlex27 for sharing your thoughts here. This is important to me as a father who has a 14 year old son in football for the last seven years, the game is getting bigger and faster for him and he has pretty lofty goals and aspirations with football right now. So much complexity to consider in how I support him. To use a football analogy with your son & football. Run with it. Enjoy the journey & let him have every opportunity to succeed. My son was a qb in Calgary. I put him in a lot of qb camps when he was a bantam & high school player. It was nothing for us to get into the car & drive a thousand miles to a football camp in Idaho, Washington, Oregon & California. The camps were great & he learned a ton but the chance to spend time with my son in the car... goin' down the road... just talking & hanging out together was priceless. You never get that time back when your kids get older & move on with their own lives. A coach at one of those camps saw my son, liked him & recommended him to the coach of the junior college team he would eventually play, start for & win a State championship with in Northern California. So, you never know who is watching & when opportunity presents itself. Edited June 1, 2018 by SpeedFlex27 HardCoreBlue, johnzo, rebusrankin and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty30 Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 On 2018-06-01 at 1:13 AM, Booch said: Yup..very hard and I pay for it now...I need a knee replacement...was told that in my mid 30's that I needed it and had the wear and condition of a guy in his 50's.. and also have hip pain from favoring it all those years...lack of range of motion in a shoulder causing sleep issues now...random headaches and general aches and pains and from constant trauma over the years...remember my dad telling me that I'm gonna pay for it later in life...but not heading the warning..lol...its tough to let it go and move on..I still would get out there now if someone would let and if had a chance to do it over again..I would..bizarre as that sounds! The NCAA doesnt truly care for its players.. trust me on that I can relate Booch. I had the same amount of knee surgeries minus one on the second knee. Tore all the ligaments twice in the right knee. First time was at age 17 and the second time I was 19. They had to take tendons from the left to use to graft the ligaments in the right. Meniscus was eventually taken out at 24 because you can only shave it down so many times. The pain from arthritis throughout my late 20s and and 30’s was torture. It was to the point I was chewing up percs like they were coming out of pez dispensers. Finally and thankfully in 2015 at the age of 42, I got my knee replaced and i have zero pain. Dr Burnell from Concordia hip and knee clinic is absolutely amazing. I don’t even need to take an Advil anymore. Right hip needs to eventually be replaced, but cordisone shots every 6-9months are doing the job for now. I totally recommend getting a replacement if one is required. I can’t begin to tell you how much of a difference it makes and the improvement of quality of life. Atomic, Tracker and SpeedFlex27 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 Yeah sounds like same path I was/am on...right knee is worn down to the grey matter now..well past the initial layer of bone that was below where the cartridge was. I even was part of a trial program done in Atlanta where small dowels where removed out of the knee joint and cartridge was grown on them from your cells..then place back in to try and create new layer of cartridge.. had microfracturing to try and mimic growth too..good times Dr Longstaff here and later Dr McDonald have been my surgeons and eventually I will stop delaying and get my knee replaced as like you said..getting hip issues on opposite side from favouring it so much over last 10-15 years...so maybe it's time.. originally you couldn't replace a replacement and it only had about a 20yr lifespan.. but now u can so I feel better about it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted June 2, 2018 Report Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Booch said: Yeah sounds like same path I was/am on...right knee is worn down to the grey matter now..well past the initial layer of bone that was below where the cartridge was. I even was part of a trial program done in Atlanta where small dowels where removed out of the knee joint and cartridge was grown on them from your cells..then place back in to try and create new layer of cartridge.. had microfracturing to try and mimic growth too..good times Dr Longstaff here and later Dr McDonald have been my surgeons and eventually I will stop delaying and get my knee replaced as like you said..getting hip issues on opposite side from favouring it so much over last 10-15 years...so maybe it's time.. originally you couldn't replace a replacement and it only had about a 20yr lifespan.. but now u can so I feel better about it now I'm 62, soon to be 63. I need both knees replaced. I walk with a cane occasionally but not always. Both knees totally shot. I put off my left knee replacement five years ago. When I decided to finally do it, I found out that my surgeon had retired. The new doc who took over his practice requires a referral. (What a racket as these guys get money for each referral from the provincial government). Now, I'm going to have to go to the back of the line again. Have my GP refer me once again to a knee specialist then wait for the appointment, set up the date of the surgery which in total could take up to a year (from what I understand) from the time of referral to the actual surgery here in Calgary. Putting it off as long as I can as I'm a school bus driver with no benefits. Medical EI only covers workers for 12 weeks. So, going to wait a while yet before I do it. Edited June 2, 2018 by SpeedFlex27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 3 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: I'm 62, soon to be 63. I need both knees replaced. I walk with a cane occasionally but not always. Both knees totally shot. I put off my left knee replacement five years ago. Not to make light of your situation but I do find it amusing that your nickname on here is Speedflex..... wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Brandon said: Not to make light of your situation but I do find it amusing that your nickname on here is Speedflex..... 1 hour ago, Brandon said: Not to make light of your situation but I do find it amusing that your nickname on here is Speedflex..... The irony is not lost on me, either. wbbfan and Tracker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 2 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: The irony is not lost on me, either. Irony: the opposite of wrinkly. The Classic, DanoT and SpeedFlex27 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHeart Posted June 3, 2018 Report Share Posted June 3, 2018 https://regina.ctvnews.ca/riders-announce-plans-for-humboldt-strong-game-this-month-1.3957416 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty30 Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 On 2018-06-02 at 4:07 PM, Booch said: Yeah sounds like same path I was/am on...right knee is worn down to the grey matter now..well past the initial layer of bone that was below where the cartridge was. I even was part of a trial program done in Atlanta where small dowels where removed out of the knee joint and cartridge was grown on them from your cells..then place back in to try and create new layer of cartridge.. had microfracturing to try and mimic growth too..good times Dr Longstaff here and later Dr McDonald have been my surgeons and eventually I will stop delaying and get my knee replaced as like you said..getting hip issues on opposite side from favouring it so much over last 10-15 years...so maybe it's time.. originally you couldn't replace a replacement and it only had about a 20yr lifespan.. but now u can so I feel better about it now McDonald did my reconstructions at Pan Am. Burnell has about a year waiting list but took a look at my X-rays and promised to get me in 4months. Rehab sucks but nothing near the discomfort before. I work out regularly and have no issues with it. Don’t put it off man. You are losing valuable days of pain free time. Now...given the crap that I have gone through (concussions, broken noses, stitches etc and never having any aspirations of going pro in sport....I would not have given up my years of football and hockey. I developed many close and important relationships that I values still to this day. Sport helped me communicate and work with others. I learned to respect others importantly my own abilities, but also kept me humble. I encourage my 3 boys to play whatever team sport they want because those times being on a team help shape who you are. Two are committed and playing high school football(RiverEast and West K) and the other hockey (RiverEast Royals). All three train all year round for their respected teams and plan to play in University. It keeps them away from a lot of negative influences and focussed on their grades as they realize that is going to be a big part of continuing towards their goals. Life is about being part of a team and life is competitive. You compete in the work force, our health/wellbeing, and sometimes even love lol. It’s made me a better professional in my career and a better family member. Injuries can happen anywhere at anytime doing almost anything, but the personal traits you develop through sport help you fight through a lot personal battles that are much more challenging. HardCoreBlue, GCJenks and SpeedFlex27 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 As per 3downnation, a certain Regina sports writer is "reporting" that CFL teams are inquiring into the Riders' spare quarterbacks. In related news, a strong aroma of bovine excrement was noted in southern Saskatchewan today. The Classic and rebusrankin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, tracker said: As per 3downnation, a certain Regina sports writer is "reporting" that CFL teams are inquiring into the Riders' spare quarterbacks. In related news, a strong aroma of bovine excrement was noted in southern Saskatchewan today. All those Rider qbs could start not only in the CFL but the NFL as well & be Pro Bowl players. Best damned 4 qbs in the history of the CFL. What awesomeness according to Pederson. Bigblue204, The Classic, 17to85 and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, tracker said: In related news, a strong aroma of bovine excrement was noted in southern Saskatchewan today. Yeah, that's regina. The Classic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlue Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 The BC Lions Football Club today announced that it has acquired international defensive lineman Davon Coleman and a sixth-round pick in the 2019 CFL Draft from the Hamilton Tiger-Cats in exchange for the Lions’ fourth-round pick in the 2019 CFL Draft. Coleman (6’2”, 295) spent the 2017 season with the Hamilton Tiger-Cats, registering 41 defensive tackles and five sacks through 17 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 3 hours ago, BigBlue said: The BC Lions Football Club today announced that it has acquired international defensive lineman Davon Coleman and a sixth-round pick in the 2019 CFL Draft from the Hamilton Tiger-Cats in exchange for the Lions’ fourth-round pick in the 2019 CFL Draft. Coleman (6’2”, 295) spent the 2017 season with the Hamilton Tiger-Cats, registering 41 defensive tackles and five sacks through 17 games. Err this was a week ago SpeedFlex27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted June 4, 2018 Report Share Posted June 4, 2018 Apparently its Bridge that teams have asked about which sort of makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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