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Piss poor roster choices once again. Corcoran starting is a joke. No back up RB is foolish. Weak Dline choices. Using DI spots on STers. So sick of this ****.

I know this game means nothing but seeing these guys hungry flying around on defense is both fun to watch and incredibly annoying for obvious reasons.

Hopefully we are celebrating clinching a playoff spot later tonight. Go Blue.

Changes to the depth chart for tomorrow - Demski no longer a game time decision, listed as starting. WINNIPEG-at-EDMONTON_OCTOBER-11.pdf

Least enjoyable season in 10 years. Made worse by the fact that we all saw it coming a mile away. Future looks grim.

This starting roster is a dog's breakfast... Blech. So little talent, and what talent there is, is old and slow. Not a lot to give us hope.

This has got to be the least excited I’ve ever been for a Bomber playoff game. There’s just no fire in the team this year, I don’t know how else to describe it.

We can all agree we want to see the Riders lose the WF, preferably in the most humiliating fashion possible.

Is this exciting? Or does this make anyone else feel old? 👴

Personally speaking, it’s the only way I can orgasm these days

Hard no on Kelly ever. No matter what. He should be banned from th league.

Hoping for it to clear up a bit. That's my 40th and I wanna tailgate!!

**** all the negativity, and whining and crying so much. Whether we run all day, pass all day, need the D and ST to carry the whole load..... Just go win the damn thing.

Count me out for trading Elgersma. He's the only guy that is really exciting me as a future QB for us. We need to go all in on rebuilding our o line and then pass the torch to Elgersma.

Season was fumbled from the GM, on down. Recruiting and free agency were duds. The roster we did have was mismanaged, on a weekly basis. Questionable schemes on both sides of the ball, inconsistent QB play and no major adjustments made all year. We needed significant changes to coaching and the roster, at the start of the year Glaringly obvious now..........

Once again, I am pissed at the approach taken in a home Grey Cup year.

Not me, I'm trying out for a combo wr/db spot. I'm not fast or anything but I bring lots of heart and intangibles.

Ever since the rule change announcement I have noted a ton of plays that wouldn't be possible with the new rules. Catches at the back of the endzone. Missed FG returns. Field goals made.from the 35 and beyond. Lead changes in the final three minutes. I have seen zero goal posts hit or collided with. This is going to be a disaster.

This works out perfect. This week - good game - clinch playoff spot. Next game - bad game - no effect on standings Eastern semi - good game - win that one Eastern final - bad game - sneak out with a win because Vaval scores 3 return TDs Grey cup - good game we win Easy.

Stewart Johnston is going to head out to the field with an impact wrench and move the goalposts to the back of the endzone for the halftime show. And you will feel the excitement level increase.

If Toronto is looking for a replacement I know a real up-and-coming offensive co-ordinator that might fit.

Just rewatched the end of the game l because I am an idiiot. Around four and a half minutes left, down by 6. The D gets a huge stop. Vaval gets a decent return, helped by a penalty. Offense takes over at the 45 with just over 4 minutes to go. What do they do? Throw away under pressure with no receivers in the same zip code, and a two yard pass to Wheatfall. Punt. Fire Hogan.

I'll be disappointed if Brady goes elsewhere.

There is no universe in which Hogan should be brought back as offensive coordinator. He was an unmitigated failure and the offense outside of 1 game was abysmal.

FWIW, I emailed Wade Miller yesterday in response to the club's email to me about being part of the sold out season. I hemmed and hawed but finally hit "send" (could have been the second glass of wine with dinner.) It will be interesting whether I get a response. Mr. Miller, Now that this disappointing season, in my opinion, has ended for the Bombers, I feel that I must express my views on a number of issues: Congratulations on the 14 straight sell-outs! As a partial season ticket holder (split two seats with two others) and also a casual ticket buyer, it felt good going to games that were sold out. The atmosphere was "electric" at times. However, based on what I saw on the field this year and to a lesser degree last year, I am considering not renewing my portion of those two season tickets. The current staff's use of the league's roster rules is a bit baffling to me, for instance, continually dressing more than the minimum required Canadians. (There are a couple of roster spots currently occupied by, in my opinion, non-starter quality Canadians.) The lack of use of the "nationalized American" rule is also concerning. (There are several veteran Americans on the team who would qualify and who might be better used in this category.) I realize that this is the C(anadian)FL but make better use of the rules. Head Coach O'Shea has made some odd roster choices throughout his tenure here. I first noticed it with his continual playing of Sam Hurl at MLB. Then it was the truly baffling decision to roster and keep trotting out the American, ex-Navy Seal, Damian Jackson. Truly bizarre, in my opinion. Currently, two players come to mind as starters who shouldn't be, Kolankowski at Centre and Thomas on the D-line. I've watched every Bomber game this season and the ineptitude of these two is quite evident. Surely, there are better players on the roster than those two veterans. Loyalty is fine to a degree but the coaching staff (Coach O'Shea?) is taking loyalty to another but detrimental level. I was wary when Jason Hogan was announced as the new OC but, at the time, trusted that the Bombers' tall foreheads knew what they were doing. However, I'm extremely disappointed in Hogan, not so much that he was a "rookie" but, to my eye, because he didn't improve his plans and playcalling over the course of the season. It is my opinion that Hogan should be relieved of his duties. I greatly appreciate what Collaros has done for the team signed he was signed. However, I (and a few others) have noticed a decline in his play that started at least a year ago. I don't understand why before this past season started, he was signed to a contract extension. To me, it would have made more sense to have him "show us" before the extension was offered. The "elephant in the room" for me, and judging by letters to the editor and comments on online CFL and Bombers forums, many others (a majority of current CFL fans?) are the proposed rule and field dimension changes. No doubt tweaks to the rules are warranted. Getting rid of the single point for kicking or punting through the end zone and a few others I can live with. However, the dramatic changes to the dimensions of the field of play and moving the goal posts (literally) are a "no go" for me and many others. When was the last time that someone was injured by the post? Sure the odd football hits an upright as Collaros this past Saturday. As a teenager in the mid-1960s, I was at a playoff game where the Bombers beat the Roughriders because Ron Lancaster hit an upright when had Gord Barwell wide open for what would have been the game-winning TD. It's rare but it's part of the Canadian game. The lack of prior consultation by the league with its stakeholders (i.e., the fans) was not a good move in my opinion. Perhaps, the league's brain trust thinks that the changes will bring in new fans? Perhaps but will that offset the potential loss of current fans (i.e., me). I have also read that the players and management were not even consulted. And what of Football Canada, U Sports and minor football in general? What are they to do and better still who will pay for it? I will not comment on the league's (and pro sports in general) ever increasing "symbiosis" with the "gaming" industry other than that I abhor it. Sincerely, real name and mobile phone number

Don’t like that neither of the new DL are on the roster. I know last week was meaningless but it was still the most consistent pressure on a QB we’ve seen all year. Even just Jenkins to rotate in for Willie would have made a huge difference. I don’t see the offence suddenly turning it on with the same weak WR corps either. Like most on here, my expectations are pretty low for tomorrow.

With Vaval as db depth no need for Lawson Jr as well when another dline guy be it Jenkins..Person..Adams..Jaworski would give us more impact... And really Ball...again...redundant and pointless as he should never see feild on defence so use his spot for Pererson as BO backup or dual use...did MCI one big run make osh go off in his pants and figure hes arrived..kid will and can be good but as the sole backup...not yet...especially when Peterson has shown hes legit That receiving group...yikes...and GTD?? Screams shades of previous playoffs and using walking wounded guys...for little to no impact other than hurting the team No reason we couldn't have went import at reciever and altered our ratio with starters considering we show 9 right now...again...not a shock and typical osh garbage...not expecting much of a whimper out of us and hopefully we can rid ourselves of who's leading this team

With what Jenkins did last week (albeit in a meaningless game) I would have loved to see him added to the DL rotation. My expectations for this game are non-existent. If we somehow squeak out a win, I'll be pleasantly surprised but if we lose it will be a big "meh" and I think that really sums up how I feel about the team this year.

For the most part, the article isn't wrong but when it is, it's way wrong. He has ST as a toss up but says "If James Letcher Jr. is in the lineup, his one play game-breaking ability is king and Montreal gets the nod", which is absolutely insane. Letcher had zero return touchdowns of any kind this season (and just 1 TD last year) while Vaval has four. But yeah Ferguson, you go on about a crazy game breaking ability that doesn't seem to exist and completely ignore the guy who should (imo) win ST player of the year. Not saying Letcher is a bad returner but Vaval was clearly the best this year so that should be a slam dunk category for us.

I hate that we are at the mercy of a rigidly stubborn head coach who has repeatedly chosen to stroke his ego rather than make the best choices for the team. Frustrating.

We need to ride BO hard right from the get go....and integrate some BO jr too in multi back sets. That way we can control the line from the start and then if ZC...The cerebral smart ZC shows up and plays within himself...the shots will be there. If OC clown tries to come up with some fancy scheme....and ignores our bread and butter and our game dictating work horse in BO he best be left in MTL when the game is over With all the warts and all with the defensive rostering this unit can control a game, and in play-off football this defence can I think go on a rip, and unlike OC clown (he has dropped from just OC Guy to clown now BTW) I have faith in Younger and Hall if provided the right personnel, and you cant look past that in all reality Alexander is basically still a rookie starter...and playoffs are a different beast...we seen firt hand all the fancy stats and wins in the reg. season account for zippo when rubber meets the road in playoffs.... And a younger hungrier bunch...well we seen how that translates to an aggressive overall unit....and maybe that will spurn Vaughters and WJ to rachet it up a notch....and generally WJ usually shows up in big games so not too concerned there truth be told if they actually turn him loose Vaughters and WJ are gonna be on roster...just how Osh rolls and they should be really...We gotta get Jenkins on as he handled that MY; line easily....with Vaval back on roster fo Logan we can easily dump the extra DB in Lawson Jr and use him in that spot...and the smart/right move would be to have Bailey on for one of Corcorran...Ball and yes Thomas...1 assume Kramdi would replace Vibert....tho the use of Woodbey there...and Smith who were moved all around were more than good....Be nice to get one of Persons and Jaworski on too, but that would be at the expense of Ayers/Wilson and cant see that happening....But a heavy rotation of WJ/Vaughters/Jenkins/Bailey with Lawson and Woods taking DT reps would give us our best front...especially with how effective Woodbey and actually Smith were as outside edge rush/contain guys...4 man fronts with all 4 those ends would give tha Al's fits Given what we saw yesterday with the potential....and if Demski is back and the offence can control the t.o.p and actually put up some 7's I feel pttty confident to be honest and can't discount that Vval may bring one back If we flop...saying it now it's gonna be due to coaching blunders and a piss poor roster on game day...fingers crossed that Osh actually saw something yesterday

Maybe it was one of those sad divorce settlement things. They could be trying to figure out who gets custody of jake thomas.

A great example of a glue guy, imo, is Sheed. He wasn't a top 3 WR, and he didn't need to be. He was the last imp wr on the roster, but after some early career struggles, was as reliable as can be, blocked his ass off, ran the sweep, and did all the little things extremely well. He was also a tremendous character guy, a leader, and a culture setter. Early on when he was fighting his hands he was on the verge of getting cut. And when we got to a point where we needed to save money and develop more young wrs he was gone. Imo, he was gone a bit too soon. But he brought a lot while he was here. You don't need that guy, but you sure are glad to have him when hes here.

If we can't beat the Riders with Mair at QB, we don't deserve to be in the playoffs.

I dunno, 2007 kinda sucked ass

Signing Jake as depth is not a huge issue. Using Jake as if he's prime Doug Brown = huge issue.

Oh, I'm fine with MOS back if he fires Hogan and gets a real OC and he starts saying bye bye to the aging vets. I get frustrated by him but appreciate the 9 straight 10+win seasons, 2 cup wins etc. Honestly a little worried about who we would replace him with. Yeah so basically I just want Miller to kick MOS and KW in the ass, light a fire and then improvements.

I mean this sincerely, but why? This was such a foregone conclusion, I can't honestly remember the time I was less upset about any Bomber loss.

I wouldn’t be surprised to find out he’s an ai bot, a cheap one at that

O’Shea is nothing, if not consistent. What an absolute turd of a lineup.

I don't even wanna take the chance of a replay... I'm not mentally strong enough to handle that. The sooner they're gone, the sooner they're NOT playing in our barn at all... No chance of them winning here. Good riddance to bad rubbish and all that...

Sports are funny. Here I am looking back on a pretty mediocre season and logically knowing we are probably done in a week, and yet my heart is like...maybe? If we can surprise the Als I think we can beat the Cats.

Luv this kid Peterson......we didn't miss a beat letting Augustine fly the coop Those new defensive ends made some noise and a case for sticking around Wilson.....competent to cold....Sad for Streve .....I think he's done

another 10 win season for the boys

If you think selfish, me first players in football generally had short careers, you’ve soundly fallen out of touch. Their careers aren’t shorter than any one else’s, and their numbers in modern pro football is extremely high. Dickie never put any kind of stamp on those riders teams. that was all chris jones through and through. they didn’t flush the jones way of doing things till this regime now. That regime didn’t value talent over character, they recruited only for talent and at times seemed to prize the toxic head case types. It’s not a question of one guy more or less talented. Talent is a small glimpse production. Hubert last year wasn’t a tremendous talent, he was and is a very good role guy despite his talent level because he was smart, tough, and had good hands. The problem is we start guys no one else would. It’s not a potential talent thing, or athleticism thing, or a fit/production thing. It’s literally all of those with guys like kola and jake. They are so far below the average replacement level it’s terrifying. Look at a guy like christopher fortin. True rookie canadian starting, was the last pick of the first round. He is soo much better than kola it’s not even funny, but what’s worse, is he would probably be our 2nd best ol this year. Half our games he might be our best ol. Veresuk is also starting as a true rookie canadian, he was the second pick, but he’s out played veteran imports on our team. We plugged in guys like allen, and woodbey making our D better, months after continually trying to force fit bad players. We’ve done this every year for a long time. We kept hammering collin kornelson not just onto the AR but into high volume rotation over a bunch of better players while handily over our ratio requirements. These are heavy handed, undisputed downgrades we forced our self to endure because we didn’t want to play the best players. That’s not even scratching into repeatedly hammering guys like biggie and schoen into the line up when they were badly compromised in terms of health and un able to perform. It’s not arm chair qbing, it’s not conspiracy theorists or wild accusations. It’s now becoming so prevalent that even the complacent media are firing shots at our coaching. Roster management issues have always been the reality. We backed ended into an all time squad and rode it into the dirt. Every team needs glue guys. but you have to have the pieces to glue together. other wise you’re just glue, and we are pretty close to that now. Half our cap is tied up in guys who are fringe league guys.

Demski listed as GTD. No Wheatfall. Woods still on. From what I can see, same line up as last week!! I was wrong....they replaced the best cover guy Houston with the often injured Parker...that I don't like. I wasn't a huge fan of the houston signing but he has essentially been lights out since coming on board. Parker was ok in his time before injury but not as good as houston has been. _ _ _ _ _ _ Apparently Houston is dealing with a family matter

This is ridiculous. Completely ridiculous. I don't like that we didn't capitalize on our last 3 Grey Cup appearances, but dismissing the fact we got there as meaningless might just be the dumbest thing I've read on this forum in quite some time. There is nothing remotely the same about missing the playoffs and winning your division 3 straight years and advancing to the championship game. My gosh some people here have a sense of entitlement that makes Rider fans look good. The only failure that I'm seeing is a complete lack of cognition and reality by some of the fan base around here. These guys played their asses off for us, show a little bit of class. Saying they were no better than the RedBlacks, or the Craig Dickenson Riders is so far out to lunch I am gobsmacked. You guys are trying so hard to hate right now that I feel sorry for you. I used to ridicule Rider fans for comments like that. Makes me sick that some here are echoing that behavior. Pure hubris and entitlement. The last 5 years has seen a historic run of success for our franchise and some here don't appreciate it at all. I guess these guys missed the 90's and 00', and 10's where we truly were bad. Getting to the Grey Cup is a failure that 7 other teams would have been excited to call their own.

One area where we have to give credit where credit is due: the Bombers management has consistently fielded a strong starting secondary.