Jpan85 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 They are laughing right 60k to an extra month and half to evaluate players is money well spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Pop Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Knowing a Wpg sports crowd, I'm thinking we'll give Jones and the Riders the reception they deserve come Banjo Bowl. Can't wait! Rod Black 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Black Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) Larger sanctions are certainly in order. What can't be changed is that the Ssk football club is guilty. Twice in two weeks of breaking very important rules. That's twice they have thought they were smarter than the average CFL club. in all honesty, no embellishment or slander, the Saskatchewan Roughrider Football Club are Cheaters. The cheater label will accurately stick with them. Bunch of cheaters, they are. History now shows them as cheaters. Edited August 11, 2016 by Rod Black Fact addition Fatty Liver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 I think the proper penalty would be a loss of salary cap double what the Riders spent off the books. And that ought to be applied this year. Rod Black 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, Noeller said: I hope the league is watching 'em like a hawk the rest of the season and "auditing" them regularly... Agreed, i think the league will definitely be keeping a eye out, but the lack of a bigger punishment make the league look bad Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 You hit them on the field not in the pocket book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted August 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 needed to see fines in the high 6-figures and loss of at least their 1st rounder next year.....86k is a joke. bustamente, Blue-urns, Rod Black and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, Jpan85 said: You hit them on the field not in the pocket book. You do both something along the lines of a heavy fine and draft pick Rod Black 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleK Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 So which is the rowdy section at IGF. kinda want to sit there now for banjo bowl. Jimmy Pop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Haha Rider fans more upset that they caught than the fine. Want practices closed so they can continue to break the rules lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Dudes a good follow on twitter MOBomberFan, tacklewasher, Fred C Dobbs and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber_fanaddict Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Well there goes that last grain of respect I had for the Riders. I was hoping this wasn't true cause it looks bad on the league as a whole. And all the fans laughing at the messily $86k. It may not hit them immediately but this is going to hurt the club in the long run. Their 1-5 record. Opening a new stadium and now likely going to be over the cap at the end of the year hitting the bank account even more. And to top it off cheating and they still can't field a half assed team! Laughing stock of the league and I'm glad that title is off the Bombers shoulders! Saturday's game is gonna be one hell of a game to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogi Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 That's pathetic. Jones should be suspended and the riders should forfeit their first round pick. rebusrankin and Jimmy Pop 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Black Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) Just occurred to me. Jones is saying he didn't know he had too many a players because he is suffering from a concussion. Edited August 12, 2016 by Rod Black Mr Dee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 2 hours ago, Ripper said: Not angry, don't even follow the guy. I guess I was a bit put out with the Hardy article a bit ago. It came out Hardy had called us months ago and there was f'all to the storey. Dunk was kind of making it seem like we were trying to sign him and the league had to step in. I felt his intentions were really nothing more than slinging mud at the riders. I'm sorry but I don't think good reporters do that. Didn't the CFL intervene to prevent that signing? They didn't want the embarrassment of signing a guy who beats up women. I mean, if Jones wants to sign players like that then he'll be up to his neck in the mud himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J5V Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 It's not about being fair and/or following the rules. The league did exactly what I thought they'd do. For Orridge, it's all about money and the health of the league. Hurting the already-hurting-Riders doesn't help anything. Like it or not, they are good for the league, and the league wants the Riders playing good football ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Black Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 6 minutes ago, J5V said: It's not about being fair and/or following the rules. The league did exactly what I thought they'd do. For Orridge, it's all about money and the health of the league. Hurting the already-hurting-Riders doesn't help anything. Like it or not, they are good for the league, and the league wants the Riders playing good football ASAP. And Orridge told you this? How are the Riders any better for the league than any of the other 8 team? blitzmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 12 minutes ago, J5V said: It's not about being fair and/or following the rules. The league did exactly what I thought they'd do. For Orridge, it's all about money and the health of the league. Hurting the already-hurting-Riders doesn't help anything. Like it or not, they are good for the league, and the league wants the Riders playing good football ASAP. A province of 1 million drives everything? Nobody watches in the rest of the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 This gif makes more sense than the way the CFL rules on these kind of things ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, iso_55 said: This Craig (?) Reynolds guy with the Riders seems like a decent guy as accountants go. But what the Riders really needed wasn't an accountant running the team, they needed an experienced football guy as President. I think this incident shows why they have an accountant for a President/CEO. They need someone to figure out how best to doctor the books to hide the money spent. 3 hours ago, tracker said: I think the proper penalty would be a loss of salary cap double what the Riders spent off the books. And that ought to be applied this year. They have lost cap space for this year in addition to the fine. 6 hours ago, IC Khari said: Come on tell me this isn't getting to or has already gotten to the Mike Kelly level yet? LOL ... As classic as that was it should be noted that it was a friend of Murphy's who started that particular circus show. Edited August 12, 2016 by Jacquie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 The Riders got off easy. comedygeek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 6 hours ago, Noeller said: needed to see fines in the high 6-figures and loss of at least their 1st rounder next year.....86k is a joke. The NFL salary cap is about 30 times the size of the CFL's, so this fine would equate to $1.8 million in that league. And the whole Spygate fiasco cost the team only $250,000 (the league maximum, by the way) and $500K for Belicheat personally, and that was by far the biggest in NFL history, so comparatively this is a big hit. No way we'd ever see a high 6-figure fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 8 hours ago, Chaosmonkey said: A slap on the wrist and being told to smarten up. Is that enough to change the behavior? And if it does change, do they actually stop cheating, or just look for ways to better hide it? You can bet other GM's are angry with the Riders and will force Orridge to keep a sharp eye on their future accountability. Having a rogue coach who doesn't follow rules "closely" is one thing but when that person continues the same lack of respect for rules as the head of an organization that is a completely different matter, The head drives the organization and ethics and standards he deems acceptable are passed on down through all subordinates. At this point both Jones and Murphy are being exposed as being dishonest and deceitful. This could well blow up in Jones face and despite his football savvy if reports of infractions continue to come out the Riders Board may decide it is in the best interest of their team and reputation to relieve him of his managerial position. At that point I would expect that Jones would chose to relinquish his coaching position and move on with his pursuit of an NFL coaching career leaving a red-hot mess in Sask. in his wake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) 7 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said: The NFL salary cap is about 30 times the size of the CFL's, so this fine would equate to $1.8 million in that league. And the whole Spygate fiasco cost the team only $250,000 (the league maximum, by the way) and $500K for Belicheat personally, and that was by far the biggest in NFL history, so comparatively this is a big hit. No way we'd ever see a high 6-figure fine. Good comparison, thanks for that, but I'm fairly sure the Pats were docked some draft picks too (I'll look into it)... I would have liked to have seen more of an on-field hit... take away a first round pick (or more) and hand some kind of suspension to Jones... EDIT: The Pats also lost a first round pick... http://nesn.com/2012/03/bill-belichick-patriots-got-off-easy-with-spygate-punishment-in-comparison-to-sean-payton-saints-bou/ Edited August 12, 2016 by bearpants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 Pretty much what I expected... A fine, no draft picks and no suspensions. 86K is the biggest fine in CFL history, so yah, it is a big one. I loved the speeding fine analogy... Put it in perspective for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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