Bombers Trade for Matt Nichols

[SPuDS]

What have we become here in Bomberland where we have to settle for a washed up QB and a has been RB. Maybe Reaves and Ploen could make a comeback seriously this team has no vision for the future and keeps digging a bigger hole. They had a whole year to find talent and now were being fed table scraps. Have a feeling this forum might explode after the weekend.

How is Nichols washed up exactly?

I agree on the walker signing tho.. Fail big time.

[bustamente]

 

What have we become here in Bomberland where we have to settle for a washed up QB and a has been RB. Maybe Reaves and Ploen could make a comeback seriously this team has no vision for the future and keeps digging a bigger hole. They had a whole year to find talent and now were being fed table scraps. Have a feeling this forum might explode after the weekend.

How is Nichols washed up exactly?

I agree on the walker signing tho.. Fail big time.

 

He played with a better RB tandem better WR and better OL and he couldn't get the job done. He's also have some serious injuries in the 3 plus years in the CFL. Career backup who on a good team is not a starting QB, and apparently can't be the back up either

[iso_55]

 

What have we become here in Bomberland where we have to settle for a washed up QB and a has been RB. Maybe Reaves and Ploen could make a comeback seriously this team has no vision for the future and keeps digging a bigger hole. They had a whole year to find talent and now were being fed table scraps. Have a feeling this forum might explode after the weekend.

How is Nichols washed up exactly?

I agree on the walker signing tho.. Fail big time.

 

We're in panic mode. The qb position especially. We didn't recruit this past off season. We re-upped Brohm. That was it.

[Doublezero]

Derek Taylor ‏@DTonSC 4h4 hours ago

Pass chart for new #Bombers QB Matt Nichols: 7th in catchable % 1-10 yds downfield 6th 11-20 yds, 8th 20+ yds

[KptKrunch]

Thanks for the highlight clip. In it nichols looks like the QB I remember from a couple of years back- mobile, good arm and decisive. I wonder what happened-did Kavis Reed screw him up?

 

Tib-fib fracture and torn ACL might have something to do with it.

 

Yes - you guys need to check with a Edmontonian who has been an esks season ticket holder for the past 14 years. I know a lot  about Nichols. JBR told you the deal. See guys, Nichols was a mobile quarterback who used his speed to scramble around and buy time for receivers to open up. Unlike Brohm Nichols is an accurate passer. He does have a weak arm though, never his strong suit. As I said, it was his legs that carried him.

So now, lets go back to JBR's observations which are bang one. When the Eskies got Reilly he was NOT the #1 defacto QB, he was going to battle it out with Nichols. In fact, many here believed that Nichols had the inside track for the job. Up the first exhibition game he was actually performing better - but on his first series in the first exhibition game, after smartly driving the ball downfield, he scrambled into the end zone for a TD and on the play got hit on the knee. The knee was ripped up (and he was coming off a broken leg from the previous season on the same leg) and well, the rest is history. 

He is no longer a 'mobile' QB and his weak arm has been exposed here. Also, he has become very disillusioned here due to the fact he was so close to being a starter.

 

Nichols is in the last year of his contract and was most definitely not re-signing here. He and his agent made no bones about it - he wanted a legit shot at being a #1 QB and he wasn't getting that here. 

 

So there's the goods on Nichols. It's why the Esks traded him and got (potentially) so little. 

 

My take on him - I don't think he's starter material - but I do think he is a capable backup who can fill in when needed. He won't win a team a Grey Cup but he is good enough to not lose a game for a team as he proved here with a 5 - 2 record.

 

And as noted here, he is far far better than any QB in Wpg is excluding of course the injured Willy so this move is a no brainer for both teams. The Esks dump a QB they don't need, and if he re-signs in Wpg in the off season that pick could be a lot higher.

 

As for the pick - it's moot. As I've said here many time, the CFL draft is a joke. You take the BPA and he's most likely going to the NFL and if he stays there more than a year you lose his rights anyway. If you take a Jade Etienne you take your chances. He could could turn into a player or a waterboy. Most likely a water boy. IDC what the pick is - we got a legit and viable backup QB. Won't get one of those in the draft. 

Nichols needs to prove something - great trade for the Bombers!!!!!

[iso_55]

Yeah, the draft is really becoming a crap shoot now with the NFL signing a lot of players.

[Mike]

The conditional 7th rounder is a 7th rounder at most, regardless of what Wilkins said. It's conditional because Nichols will have to hit benchmarks for Edmonton to earn it, they could get nothing at all.

[Floyd]

The conditional 7th rounder is a 7th rounder at most, regardless of what Wilkins said. It's conditional because Nichols will have to hit benchmarks for Edmonton to earn it, they could get nothing at all.

 

That makes no sense at all.

[MOBomberFan]

 

The conditional 7th rounder is a 7th rounder at most, regardless of what Wilkins said. It's conditional because Nichols will have to hit benchmarks for Edmonton to earn it, they could get nothing at all.

 

That makes no sense at all.

 

Doesn't seem that complex a notion. If Nichols meets certain conditions (such as games dressed, games started, re-signing in the off season, or some other conditons) then EDM gets our 7th rounder. If he doesn't meet said conditions, EDM gets nothing at all. If EDM was in fact intending to drop him anyhow, then maybe getting something in return for him is still a better deal than assuredly getting nothing at all.

[Tracker]

From Edmonton's point of view, they got to move out a player who was not going to be part of their future, dump some salary and get a "maybe" in return for a "nothing" they had.

[bigg jay]

 

As for the pick - it's moot. As I've said here many time, the CFL draft is a joke. You take the BPA and he's most likely going to the NFL and if he stays there more than a year you lose his rights anyway. If you take a Jade Etienne you take your chances. He could could turn into a player or a waterboy. Most likely a water boy. IDC what the pick is - we got a legit and viable backup QB. Won't get one of those in the draft. 

Nichols needs to prove something - great trade for the Bombers!!!!!

 

 

No, no you don't.  The Bombers wouldn't have the rights to Mulumba or Bilukidi if that were the case.

[GCn20]

 

 

As for the pick - it's moot. As I've said here many time, the CFL draft is a joke. You take the BPA and he's most likely going to the NFL and if he stays there more than a year you lose his rights anyway. If you take a Jade Etienne you take your chances. He could could turn into a player or a waterboy. Most likely a water boy. IDC what the pick is - we got a legit and viable backup QB. Won't get one of those in the draft. 

Nichols needs to prove something - great trade for the Bombers!!!!!

 

 

No, no you don't.  The Bombers wouldn't have the rights to Mulumba or Bilukidi if that were the case.

 

 

I think this is the 2nd time in the last couple weeks that Kpt Krunch has made this assertion. So I will confirm your post above. CFL TEAMS HOLD THE RIGHTS OF ALL DRAFT PICKS INDEFINITELY THAT DON'T SIGN WITH THEM.

[sweep the leg]

 

 

 

As for the pick - it's moot. As I've said here many time, the CFL draft is a joke. You take the BPA and he's most likely going to the NFL and if he stays there more than a year you lose his rights anyway. If you take a Jade Etienne you take your chances. He could could turn into a player or a waterboy. Most likely a water boy. IDC what the pick is - we got a legit and viable backup QB. Won't get one of those in the draft. 

Nichols needs to prove something - great trade for the Bombers!!!!!

 

 

No, no you don't.  The Bombers wouldn't have the rights to Mulumba or Bilukidi if that were the case.

 

 

I think this is the 2nd time in the last couple weeks that Kpt Krunch has made this assertion. So I will confirm your post above. CFL TEAMS HOLD THE RIGHTS OF ALL DRAFT PICKS INDEFINITELY THAT DON'T SIGN WITH THEM.

 

He was corrected last time as well.

[ddanger]

I think its a good trade. Nichols is Drew Willy light.

 

7th round picks are usually Canadian born water boys.

I like your comment "Drew Willy light". The next part about Canadian water boys is offensive to anyone who has ever had a child play football and dream of the CFL.

[17to85]

 

 

 

 

As for the pick - it's moot. As I've said here many time, the CFL draft is a joke. You take the BPA and he's most likely going to the NFL and if he stays there more than a year you lose his rights anyway. If you take a Jade Etienne you take your chances. He could could turn into a player or a waterboy. Most likely a water boy. IDC what the pick is - we got a legit and viable backup QB. Won't get one of those in the draft. 

Nichols needs to prove something - great trade for the Bombers!!!!!

 

 

No, no you don't.  The Bombers wouldn't have the rights to Mulumba or Bilukidi if that were the case.

 

 

I think this is the 2nd time in the last couple weeks that Kpt Krunch has made this assertion. So I will confirm your post above. CFL TEAMS HOLD THE RIGHTS OF ALL DRAFT PICKS INDEFINITELY THAT DON'T SIGN WITH THEM.

 

He was corrected last time as well.

 

He never lets little things like facts get in the way of his ranting. 

[KptKrunch]

 

 

 

 

As for the pick - it's moot. As I've said here many time, the CFL draft is a joke. You take the BPA and he's most likely going to the NFL and if he stays there more than a year you lose his rights anyway. If you take a Jade Etienne you take your chances. He could could turn into a player or a waterboy. Most likely a water boy. IDC what the pick is - we got a legit and viable backup QB. Won't get one of those in the draft. 

Nichols needs to prove something - great trade for the Bombers!!!!!

 

 

No, no you don't.  The Bombers wouldn't have the rights to Mulumba or Bilukidi if that were the case.

 

 

I think this is the 2nd time in the last couple weeks that Kpt Krunch has made this assertion. So I will confirm your post above. CFL TEAMS HOLD THE RIGHTS OF ALL DRAFT PICKS INDEFINITELY THAT DON'T SIGN WITH THEM.

 

He was corrected last time as well.

 

 

ohhhh I was 'corrected' lol. Good one (use the waiters voice in 'The Shining' for that one). Yes you are correct - as Anthony Mulumba will be patrolling the Blue bomber dline any day now, won't he? Well, I guess he could. I do get a bit mixed up sometime. What I meant was - you draft a player (Muamba) and he plays well, so well he gets an NFL shot after his two year contract runs out (and before it was in his option year he could do that) well, if/when he fails..... unless his option year was still running - U F A . He can go anywhere. So we drafted Henoc first overall, guess what? He's a UFA if he comes back to the CFL - we don't have his rights. This is what I meant. Still a joke

[Mike]

 

The conditional 7th rounder is a 7th rounder at most, regardless of what Wilkins said. It's conditional because Nichols will have to hit benchmarks for Edmonton to earn it, they could get nothing at all.

 

That makes no sense at all.

 

 

It makes complete sense. The CFL actually words their transactions quite clearly. If you go back and look at the Brohm trade, see what we traded. A "conditional draft pick", no round listed. Because the conditions were that the value of the pick could escalate depending on Brohm meeting certain benchmarks. What did we trade for Nichols? A "conditional 7th round draft pick", meaning *if* the conditions are met, Edmonton will get a 7th rounder. If they aren't met, the pick (being conditional) will not go to Edmonton.

[KptKrunch]

 

 

 

 

 

As for the pick - it's moot. As I've said here many time, the CFL draft is a joke. You take the BPA and he's most likely going to the NFL and if he stays there more than a year you lose his rights anyway. If you take a Jade Etienne you take your chances. He could could turn into a player or a waterboy. Most likely a water boy. IDC what the pick is - we got a legit and viable backup QB. Won't get one of those in the draft. 

Nichols needs to prove something - great trade for the Bombers!!!!!

 

 

No, no you don't.  The Bombers wouldn't have the rights to Mulumba or Bilukidi if that were the case.

 

 

I think this is the 2nd time in the last couple weeks that Kpt Krunch has made this assertion. So I will confirm your post above. CFL TEAMS HOLD THE RIGHTS OF ALL DRAFT PICKS INDEFINITELY THAT DON'T SIGN WITH THEM.

 

He was corrected last time as well.

 

He never lets little things like facts get in the way of his ranting. 

 

Yeah, like I'm the only 'ranter' here - give me a break 

[Mike]

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for the pick - it's moot. As I've said here many time, the CFL draft is a joke. You take the BPA and he's most likely going to the NFL and if he stays there more than a year you lose his rights anyway. If you take a Jade Etienne you take your chances. He could could turn into a player or a waterboy. Most likely a water boy. IDC what the pick is - we got a legit and viable backup QB. Won't get one of those in the draft. 

Nichols needs to prove something - great trade for the Bombers!!!!!

 

 

No, no you don't.  The Bombers wouldn't have the rights to Mulumba or Bilukidi if that were the case.

 

 

I think this is the 2nd time in the last couple weeks that Kpt Krunch has made this assertion. So I will confirm your post above. CFL TEAMS HOLD THE RIGHTS OF ALL DRAFT PICKS INDEFINITELY THAT DON'T SIGN WITH THEM.

 

He was corrected last time as well.

 

He never lets little things like facts get in the way of his ranting. 

 

Yeah, like I'm the only 'ranter' here - give me a break 

 

 

It amazes me how you always manage to respond to a comment without actually responding to the comment.

[Booch]

What have we become here in Bomberland where we have to settle for a washed up QB and a has been RB. Maybe Reaves and Ploen could make a comeback seriously this team has no vision for the future and keeps digging a bigger hole. They had a whole year to find talent and now were being fed table scraps. Have a feeling this forum might explode after the weekend. 

Really tho...Marshall isn't a washed up has been. If he was used properly he would easily be a 1000 yard rusher and money scoring inside the 5

[Mike]

so now they clarify the Nichols trade and say it can be a 6th rounder if Nichols is on the team in 2016.

 

I was mistaken then. Never seen it worded that way before.

[Atomic]

so now they clarify the Nichols trade and say it can be a 6th rounder if Nichols is on the team in 2016.

 

I was mistaken then. Never seen it worded that way before.

 

That's an interesting condition because I believe he is a UFA after this season.

[Tracker]

so now they clarify the Nichols trade and say it can be a 6th rounder if Nichols is on the team in 2016.

 

I was mistaken then. Never seen it worded that way before.

Even a 6th rounder for Nichols is the CFL equivalent value of 2 for 1 meal coupon at McDonalds.

[Bomber_fanaddict]

 

so now they clarify the Nichols trade and say it can be a 6th rounder if Nichols is on the team in 2016.

 

I was mistaken then. Never seen it worded that way before.

 

That's an interesting condition because I believe he is a UFA after this season.

 

You mean an FA

[Tracker]

 

 

 

 

 

As for the pick - it's moot. As I've said here many time, the CFL draft is a joke. You take the BPA and he's most likely going to the NFL and if he stays there more than a year you lose his rights anyway. If you take a Jade Etienne you take your chances. He could could turn into a player or a waterboy. Most likely a water boy. IDC what the pick is - we got a legit and viable backup QB. Won't get one of those in the draft. 

Nichols needs to prove something - great trade for the Bombers!!!!!

 

 

No, no you don't.  The Bombers wouldn't have the rights to Mulumba or Bilukidi if that were the case.

 

 

I think this is the 2nd time in the last couple weeks that Kpt Krunch has made this assertion. So I will confirm your post above. CFL TEAMS HOLD THE RIGHTS OF ALL DRAFT PICKS INDEFINITELY THAT DON'T SIGN WITH THEM.

 

He was corrected last time as well.

 

 

ohhhh I was 'corrected' lol. Good one (use the waiters voice in 'The Shining' for that one). Yes you are correct - as Anthony Mulumba will be patrolling the Blue bomber dline any day now, won't he? Well, I guess he could. I do get a bit mixed up sometime. What I meant was - you draft a player (Muamba) and he plays well, so well he gets an NFL shot after his two year contract runs out (and before it was in his option year he could do that) well, if/when he fails..... unless his option year was still running - U F A . He can go anywhere. So we drafted Henoc first overall, guess what? He's a UFA if he comes back to the CFL - we don't have his rights. This is what I meant. Still a joke.

 

And how is that substantially different from an import player who goes back to the US of A, flunks out and then tries to return to the CFL? You pays yer money and you takes yer chances. If the player has been treated well, he will probably but not certainly return to his former team. No guarantees in this business- even if you hold the rights to a given player who goes to the NFL, by the time he is done there, he could be too beat up or past his prime to be of any value here.