rebusrankin Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Not only that but our popcorn vendors sucked that year. I blame Kelly for that too. Oh and the lack of salt on the fries. Rod Black and TheSource 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Atomic said: Yes it was 100% his fault. He was the GM, HC, OC, and QB coach. There is no one else who bears any part of the blame. yup he wanted to do everything so he owns all the blame for what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBBFanWest Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 Colin Unger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Atomic said: Yes it was 100% his fault. He was the GM, HC, OC, and QB coach. There is no one else who bears any part of the blame. I put 98% of it on Arjei Franklin. The season totally turned around once we shipped his spit-disturbing carcass to Calgary. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted May 16, 2018 Report Share Posted May 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Atomic said: Yes it was 100% his fault. He was the GM, HC, OC, and QB coach. There is no one else who bears any part of the blame. Lol, I thought you were sarcastically defending him, until I remembered he really did have all of those titles. Piggy 1, SPuDS, Mark H. and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 17 hours ago, TheSource said: But it wasn't all just Mike's fault. Too much change on a team in too short a time. Then who else's fault was it...? I can't wait to hear (read) this. SPuDS, rebusrankin, MC and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 I never felt Bryan Randall was given a chance to succeed here. Nobody in that offence was given a chance to succeed except for the running backs. The only possible explanation for the playbook was that someone thought, "it's so crazy it just might work." Colin Unger and Atomic 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 7 hours ago, MC said: I never felt Bryan Randall was given a chance to succeed here. Nobody in that offence was given a chance to succeed except for the running backs. The only possible explanation for the playbook was that someone thought, "it's so crazy it just might work." I went to a Bomber practice in 2008, just after Glenn had been demoted and Dinwiddie had taken over. I watched Randall run a few plays during a scrimmage and saw him miss open receivers by a huge margin. I don't think he was that good. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Randall sucked.... Richie Williams could run a perfect play action but aside from that his noodle arm was also not good. From all our mediocre backups over the last 10 years I think the only ones that may have been something with good health and better coaching was Marve and Elliott. Floyd and SPuDS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Brandon said: Randall sucked.... Richie Williams could run a perfect play action but aside from that his noodle arm was also not good. From all our mediocre backups over the last 10 years I think the only ones that may have been something with good health and better coaching was Marve and Elliott. 100% SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 Marve...... really? Maybe the most unqualified QB to come through here in the last decade. Great athlete... no clue how to play quarterback. MC and SPuDS 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Atomic said: Marve...... really? Maybe the most unqualified QB to come through here in the last decade. Great athlete... no clue how to play quarterback. yeah no... that bar is set really, really really low. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBBFanWest Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 It breaks my heart to see a discussion on which of our QB's was the worst, and then have so many examples to discuss. Dang... JCon and Mark F 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, WBBFanWest said: It breaks my heart to see a discussion on which of our QB's was the worst, and then have so many examples to discuss. Dang... And, all relatively recent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) Fair point considering some of the guys who have come through.... but really... Marve started like ten games in his whole college career, was more broken than Buck Pierce, and couldn't read a defence to save his life. He had no business being in professional football. However Edited May 18, 2018 by Atomic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 21 minutes ago, Atomic said: Fair point considering some of the guys who have come through.... but really... Marve started like ten games in his whole college career, was more broken than Buck Pierce, and couldn't read a defence to save his life. He had no business being in professional football. Most unqualified... hmm You want to rank the Bomber backups best to worst for the last ten years... illuminate us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSource Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 On 2018-05-16 at 6:19 PM, WBBFanWest said: https://www.widenerpride.com/staff.aspx?staff=217 SPuDS and Tracker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBBFanWest Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, TheSource said: https://www.widenerpride.com/staff.aspx?staff=217 Don't really care where he is now, just so long as he never comes anywhere near this team again. My two favorite pictures from the Kelly era: the mug shot and the pic of him hauling his stuff out of the stadium in a bin. I only wish I could find that pic. TheSource and blue_gold_84 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 The Souce is actually Mike Kelly. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBBFanWest Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, M.O.A.B. said: The Souce is actually Mike Kelly. 😉 I truly hope that isn't the case and that he's just a trollish poster who likes to show up from time to time and stir things up, because if it's true, then he's even a more pathetic figure than I ever could have imagined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Atomic said: Fair point considering some of the guys who have come through.... but really... Marve started like ten games in his whole college career, was more broken than Buck Pierce, and couldn't read a defence to save his life. He had no business being in professional football. However Right, Marve found a way to win a game in his first and only year in CFL football, despite physical limitations that should have disqualified him from playing football all together. Most QB's get 2-3 years to develop as backups before being thrown into a relief situation, Marve only appeared in 3 games total and managed to win this one relying on "play-ground" football skills. Not saying Marve needs to be lauded but he certainly does not deserve the level of criticism you're throwing his way as one of the worst ever. Howbout re-aiming your criticism at Bomber scouting and management for signing him up in the first place knowing his injury history? Edited May 18, 2018 by Throw Long Bannatyne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 37 minutes ago, M.O.A.B. said: The Souce is actually Mike Kelly. 😉 I never fully believed this until today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: Right, Marve found a way to win a game in his first and only year in CFL football, despite physical limitations that should have disqualified him from playing football all together. Most QB's get 2-3 years to develop as backups before being thrown into a relief situation, Marve only appeared in 3 games total and managed to win this one relying on "play-ground" football skills. Not saying Marve needs to be lauded but he certainly does not deserve the level of criticism you're throwing his way as one of the worst ever. Howbout re-aiming your criticism at Bomber scouting and management for signing him up in the first place knowing his injury history? The spirit was willing but the flesh not so much... SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Atomic Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: Right, Marve found a way to win a game in his first and only year in CFL football, despite physical limitations that should have disqualified him from playing football all together. Most QB's get 2-3 years to develop as backups before being thrown into a relief situation, Marve only appeared in 3 games total and managed to win this one relying on "play-ground" football skills. Not saying Marve needs to be lauded but he certainly does not deserve the level of criticism you're throwing his way as one of the worst ever. Howbout re-aiming your criticism at Bomber scouting and management for signing him up in the first place knowing his injury history? I think it's implied to be a failure on management's part when a QB with Marve's qualifications and injury history is brought in. I liked Marve as a person and respected his drive but he simply had no business starting a pro football game. He squeezed out the win in 2014 (though he is not credited with a W) but when he started a game in 2015 it was painfully obvious... the man had no experience and simply couldn't read a defence. Maybe that's a little harsh but it's true. He had a big arm and good speed but it's all for naught if you can't think the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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