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This is all the evidence i need to ignore Pro Stats Canada from now on.

No concern my ass. If he’s injured that’s fine but at 0-4 I want my starters getting reps. If they put an injured Collaros with no reps into the game I’m going to be upset, might as well roll with Streveler until hes healthy enough to be at 100 percent.

none whatsoever...anyone I know with any sort of legit player evaluation skills/responsibility doesnt even look at that...a guy could totally screw up an assignemnt or responsibility but appear via that to have scored high

Fox is ral good...powerful...active motor and has actualtechnique....can't get him back fast enough...our pressures have suffered since he been out...tho oodles of Jake isnt helping either if he actually used as a legit dual threat QB...he will excel

big time....a lot of his work was at or just byond...or behind the L.O.S also if u are able to calculate yards achieved before tackle...or even contact....tells you who is active...and who is re-active...and reactive after the fact...Thats part of why I dont like Holm at HB....he seems active and always right there...but it's alwys after the fact....He be way better served at safety, and those 2 plays I recall last game he made....were classic plays that if at safety he would make all day long...and likely be active in getting pics

The great thing about Adams like jbr said, is he can play any dl position and technique, so he can split snaps between dt and de. so in an ideal world you have woods take the most dt reps Adams takes the second most reps, wj splits evenly with another end, fox splits fairly evenly with Lawson. Every dl has looked much much better when not next to Jake Thomas. I think if you put any combo of dl out there with out Jake or big reps from schmekel, our dl will play exceptionally well. Playing next to an actually good imp nose makes every one much better too. If you have adams, fox and woods on the dl together at the same time in 40 or 30 front alignment you will see far better productivity from each of them than we’ve seen with them split up. Throw wj in protected snaps beside those 3 for 20 snaps a game and the whole front 6 will be the best we’ve seen since 21.

Hamilton gets Deionte Knight off Toronto’s practice roster. Good to see other teams doing everything they can to get better. (edit: no I didn’t think we should’ve snagged him, I’ll keep beating the drum to see us make an attempt at Makai Polk)

To me Woods has that nose spot covered with the Canadians. Adams can kind of line up anywhere. 3 tech just refers to where the guy lines up, like mostly a B gap guy in a very linear sense. It's shifted a lot as focus has moved to pass rush over simple gap control. The occupy 2 OL thing is just a matter of how effective you are and how the other team schemes based on who they view as a threat. In run scheme you're trying to double team across the front and then work up to the linebacker/2nd level, base zone run now leaves backside end out or usually brings a back/receiver to chip/duo block across formation. So if you're any DL vs the run and you can jam up those blocks so that 2nd OL can't break off to get at your LB's that's a pretty big win. The only teams I see consistently running a gap scheme with run blocking are Hamilton and Montreal, sometimes Sask. Zone is pretty basic now and way more responsive to the fronts you see without having to check at the line. They are missing really solid rush end and the swing guy. Fayad looks ok, hard to judge anyone off the edge when Jefferson playing so passive to the point he's getting a lot looks where blocking back is just standing there watching him straight away. The opposite end is actually the guy getting the layers of blocking basically since the Ottawa game. Jefferson has a handful of snaps in a given game this season where he fires off and is a threat.

I dream of the day when we can rotate Willie, Garbutt and Haba throughout a game... Fox and Adams in the middle with Schmeckel and Lawson...

Reinbold wasn’t happy on his exit iirc, and he’s coaching in Hawaii again. I don’t think he’d come back from that to coach under the same management that is now a bottom dwelling team. the fact our cover team was soo bad with him last year and is already soo much better says a lot.

that godamm thorax again hahaha

We can only dream. That's way to logical for this team to consider.

Thought he was getting moved too easy vs the run against Montreal. He's not explosive, not pushing pocket, not getting pressures not a lot of redeeming qualities there for an interior guy. Adams is extremely explosive, but very raw. He is already impactful and has a way to go. Woods is not getting moved at all, he's where we want him to be so guys aren't busting off 4+ yards before contact and he's also getting pressures. He gives the LB's a real solid chance to do their jobs. Fox would be an easy chop for me and I'd be bringing in American DL until you find another guy who can really play. My preference would be to look at guys who are more of the 3 tec/weakside end types, 6'1 255-270 body type.

Agreed, we’ve seen him make the throws, he can hit that wide out that makes or breaks CFL QBs. It’s the consistent decision making and reading Defences that Strev still has to prove. I’m optimistic he can. I’m less optimistic in the offence they’re running in itself.

Streveler hasn't really had a proper chance to prove himself. Spot play here and there doesn't a QB make. He needs to run the offense for a couple games to see what he has. Dru hasn't lit it up in Ottawa yet he was the second coming here!

What is this based on?

Not sure which game you're watching?

With the amount of star studded play stated in Pro Stats release we should have won week 4 in a walkoff.....How come I don't see the 2 pts in our column?????signed just curious

exactly....it's a flwed way to grade....Nichols last week had a game of games for a db...didnt even crack the top 5...tells u something right there

I would be very curious to see how these statistics are determined. Obviously they’re garbage. But like I’ve always said, the eye test always beats the “fancy” numbers. Also I DO NOT WANT O’Shea and the coaching staff seeing this tweet..

Thomas being ranked at the top of any rating system is absolutely insane. Unless they’re using the overused and borderline useless metric.

Hard to judge the DL right now with all the bodies we have lost but I tend to agree with your assessment. Playing with our current group is not getting it done, but that wasn't the plan for sure.

Self-preservation mode vs warrior mode. Maybe you can expect that at age 36 with Zach's history of injuries. Reminds me last couple of years of Matt Nichols. Could've made plays ... but didn't. I'll never forget one play near the end of Nichols time here. 3rd & 10 game on the line. Nichols drops back and the middle opens up. He runs up about 5-6 yards into the open field then spots a defender moving towards him. He could have got the first down easily but saw potential contact - slid down at 7 yards. Game over.

Go back and look at the #s qbs put up against our D in it's hayday with the mafia. We had dominant nose tackles collapsing the pocket on the qbs lap, youll see pretty similar stuff.

I talked an ungodly amount of **** about Fajardo from 19-last year, and doubted him going into this season. I’ll eat some crow, he’s playing very well on a very good team and looks to have improved the specific aspects of his game we were all knocking. I think it’s got a lot to do with having the one of the best QBs in modern CFL history working with him. I don’t think @Mark H. was attacking you Al. I read his point more like, teams can work with a QB who has the tools, that some thought had plateaued and in Strevelers context, he could be one of those QBs.

Nope not at all, I just want the club to use him as a normal QB and stop pigeon holing him into a running guy with gadget plays. He is starter material and just needs some play time to get back into a groove.

What a rollercoaster

Could be, but sometimes you work with the QB you have - like the Als with Fajardo.

That's not how O'Shea rolls. He'll play his vets with no practice time. Streveler could get all the starting reps all week in practice only to sit the entire game.

I only know what I’ve read and seen in his highlight reel. Looks very explosive and dominant against the run, but like I said it was highlight tape and really the ACC isn’t what it used to be. Big school (VT) Seems like he fell through the cracks, looked like he had some later round NFL draft interest. Little on the smaller side for an end in the NFL, his frame doesn’t look as big as his listed size. Fwiw he had good speed testing numbers at the combine but a really crappy vertical. High motor in college, nicknamed “Mr Lunchpail”. From his highlight tape, it looks like the yard off the ball will benefit. He seems like he’d get swallowed up by NFL tackles fairy easily, quickness can negate a lot of that up here. Ranked in some obscure stats like TFL per game, ACC lineman of the week, Top Edge rusher against the run (weekly) on PFF. Bunch of random info, not a lot of reports on him.

You don't want to take away bombs either, in fact that was a missing element from Saturday almost entirely. What you want is a nice balanced offense that forces a team to defend every part of the field. We used to have that, don't really anymore

here is a box score break down for ba and nichols. ba, half his tackles were after first down yardage was gained, he had 3 run stops but on a combined 24 rush yards. Zero pass defenses zero incompletions at him. 8 tackles. the longest play against Nichols was for 8 yards. Two plays forced 3rd down, 4 passes were incomplete when thrown at his target. 3 run stops totaling 10 rushing yards. 6 tackles. pretty clear to see those “advanced stats” are trash.

The only point would be if he ends up missing 6 weeks, as they can retroactively change him from 1 to 6 weeks. Also, if Chris gets hurt or if both qbs get hurt. Even if one get hurts and the other gets removed for protocol or has to sit plays for an injury sub but ends up ok we are in a bad bad position. I don’t like dressing a qb or player who can’t play. But at this point of the week we aren’t going to get another qb in and up to speed that it would be any better. If Zach was modestly questionable we shouldve brought in a 4th. Personally I like having a 4th any way on the pr. or a we may well have squandered those games away too. We didn’t lose close games while playing well. We’ve stank. I don’t doubt our ability to lose those games even if gifted turn overs resulting in 7s. football doesn’t break down to math well. Yep and even that wasn’t taking into consideration plays where you come back to tackle other guys misses, or fail to switch on bunches and rubs, or making an amazing play to beat a run. Football analytics are worth less in micro than most sports, and are better used in a macro approach like going for it on 3rd down, going for 2 points etc. holm even more than last year seems to be a step late frequently. Last year his explosiveness allowed him to close out and save plays where more sound play would’ve allowed him to maybe play for a turn over. It’s not all on him, his side has struggled. Though ford has improved and the side got better with out karamoko playing big reps.

He’s likely been bs ing since he was drafted tho. In what world do 14th overall picks get a guaranteed spot meanwhile you got a guy like https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/574821/max-namestnikov at developmental camp trying to make an impression and a couple other undrafted guys. I just thought max is most interesting since it’s Vlads brother.

I mean Nichols was basically playing sam on run downs, ended up with 6 tackles with out getting trucked or giving up a big play both of which ba did. So they are just calculating based off the stat box. I can look at the avg depth of tackle later but I guarantee Nichols is way shorter distance than ba

It’s about how they derive that value. Ba had 8 tackles, which they value highly. Thing is, ba wasn’t even playing in the box. His tackles were mostly down field after first down yardage was gained. Like when wes lysack was leading the league in tackles and was cut, with no one picking him up. Biggie also had 8, and Thomas 4. So that’s 20 tackles with just 1 being for a loss. They are over valuing tackles because it’s easy to extrapolate. Value for a db for instance should be some thing like pick, ff/fr, pkd, incompletion to their cover target, tfl, tackle no gain, then tackle short of yardage on 2nd/3rd, then tackle on a completion equal or less than 5, then less than qb avg per completion, then less than wr average. Finally you’d have negative value plays. Some times you get beat and some times another player makes a great play, but in order to be reasonably accurate you have to skew to a low score. A pick might be a score of 1, with a tfl a value of .5, a tackle that yields a first but with in the avg per completion a .1 and a long td surrendered being +1. what I’m sure they are doing is int, tackle=tfl, ff,fr where the value doesn’t change much between each stat.

Crap forgot Lambert was a 1st rounder. I was referring to Lucius as part of the group above. At any rate nothing tiny or undersized about any of them. Some real good size really especially Lucius and McG down the middle. That being said I would love for us to plant an oak tree like Nuke in front of opposing goalies like the Avs do.

People are criticizing Chevy for not spending money with no cap room to do so. Look at the cap people, the only way our team is changing signficantly is if we are moving pieces out too. Dillon was a cap casualty and there was no way we were signing Monahan unless he came cheap. Why not trade Ehlers and McG and do something with the freed up space? Because teams aren't buyers on the trade market at the opening of FA. Just a fact.

"Only those who do not wear a seatbelt, get hurt." The final quote in article does not compute...there was literally stuff falling on people.

You can’t force players to sign here. You’d think after 13 years people would realize this.

Makes you wonder that all the success we have had and all the next man up....helped create the mess we are in....as an example Buck has been able to plan a certain way consistently...but now we don't have the level of talent we did, and he has appeared to keep trying to plan consistently but all of a sudden it's not working, the next man up can't do it.....and we falter trying the same.....now it's time to see how well he can adapt and change and figure out how to use the actual talent we have and hide the actual weaknesses we have, we do still have playmakers on offence... I get this is a very simplified description, but I believe the root of it is accurate.

Jets would trade him for a Pontiac.

Harris being injured, and likely injured again when he returns, was not unlucky it was inevitable. All discussions this offseason here the main criticism of the Riders running it back with Harris was that he was highly unlikely to be able to survive an 18 game schedule. It was a mistake re-signing him for that reason. I think the over under on when he would be out long term was about 3 games. He did not disappoint.

gotta wonder where Buck Pierce has gone to... there are still a lot of talented players in this offense... surely we can design something that works to our team's strengths

Harris was looking very good thus far... Shame about the injury. Not sure what to expect from Patterson. Hasn't started in ages, I used to watch him when he was at Michigan and thought he was solid.

Exactly. Self-preservation can be subconscious even. A 35+ year old simply isn’t going to take the same risks with their body that somebody in their 20s is, it goes against human nature.

Is it too late to trade Chevy?

...and fwiw....

That was the achilles heel of the offenses quarterbacked by Nichols and Glenn. Opposing defenses did not need to respect the deep ball as a consistent threat. He's having nightmares of how to keep the centre off his butt.

And part of being a professional franchise in this day and age is realizing that you need to take some swings. We overbake our prospects in the AHL and have them on a tight leash if they ever do get here and it’s no surprise that young guys are starting to wake up to it. This isn’t an ideal place to go if you want to have a chance at cracking a roster as a young player. We’re in a window of time with our core, why not give guys like RMG a shot early on and see if they can surprise us?