gbill2004 Posted September 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I understand how bidding works. I also feel that when you've been as bad as us, you don't **** around, you make a large offer. Go in and offer 3 years at $230,000 or so.How do you know Walters didn't offer that, or more? Your criticism of Walters here is ridiculous. 10-18 in the past season and a half. I feel justified in saying Walters should have made the best offer.My point is Walters didn't know the best offer when he made his. It's called a bidding war. Walters will increase his bid if Henoc is interested in coming back to Winnipeg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Fair enough but my speculation is Walters went cheap. You need to go big and blow Henoc away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 i sincerely hope if we lose out on the bidding.. its not due to money.. id beat any deal tabled... period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgoldguy Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 It's one thing if Muamba signs with Toronto or Hamilton to be closer to home. That I can understand. If however, it comes down to money and he signs with Toronto or Hamilton, then Walters has some explaining to do. No excuse to be outbid by those teams. If anything he has to offer more money when factoring in the probable lost playoff incentives for this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 The longer it takes, the better the chances Henoch will sign in Ontario- probably Toronto. Lets not cripple the team financially for one player when there are so many holes in our lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Not many holes on D that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 The longer it takes, the better the chances Henoch will sign in Ontario- probably Toronto. Lets not cripple the team financially for one player when there are so many holes in our lineup. Improving your defense covers up some other holes tho, you realize this right? Sure,doesnt change ratio but improves blitz, pass coverage by an MLB And run stopping., henoc > hurl. Now, if we take hurl and henoc on field at same time.. 3-4 or whatever, we can use another american in liu of bucknor or on dline.. Henoc instantly makes our defense even better then it currently is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 The other issue is, Muamba's family lives in Toronto I believe. I remember Bluto saying that he sat beside them at a Hamilton game when Winnipeg was playing there. But yeah, I hope Walters puts up the money. We need some good Canadian players. Is it his intention to play in the CFL longterm? If it is, Walters 'here's our future plan' needs to be better than the other eight teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Should you break the bank for one player? It is interesting how Calgary uses the NFL model for their salary structures. Huff believes that certain positions warrant a specific range in pay structure. When a player gets to the top end and his demands exceed Huff's scale his philosophy is to find a replacement. Blue-urns, Doublezero, TBURGESS and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Should you break the bank for one player? It is interesting how Calgary uses the NFL model for their salary structures. Huff believes that certain positions warrant a specific range in pay structure. When a player gets to the top end and his demands exceed Huff's scale his philosophy is to find a replacement. That is not unique. You pretty much described the roster management that every professional sports team goes through, every team has a structure, they aren't making decisions in a vacuum. Different managers place different values on certain positions and factors. Muamba would be comparable to Cornish in terms of Canadians playing traditional import positions, break the bank-ers. There aren't many teams paying running backs as much as Calgary does, basically them and BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Should you break the bank for one player? It is interesting how Calgary uses the NFL model for their salary structures. Huff believes that certain positions warrant a specific range in pay structure. When a player gets to the top end and his demands exceed Huff's scale his philosophy is to find a replacement. That is not unique. You pretty much described the roster management that every professional sports team goes through, every team has a structure, they aren't making decisions in a vacuum. Different managers place different values on certain positions and factors. Muamba would be comparable to Cornish in terms of Canadians playing traditional import positions, break the bank-ers. There aren't many teams paying running backs as much as Calgary does, basically them and BC. Should you break the bank for one player? It is interesting how Calgary uses the NFL model for their salary structures. Huff believes that certain positions warrant a specific range in pay structure. When a player gets to the top end and his demands exceed Huff's scale his philosophy is to find a replacement. That is not unique. You pretty much described the roster management that every professional sports team goes through, every team has a structure, they aren't making decisions in a vacuum. Different managers place different values on certain positions and factors. Muamba would be comparable to Cornish in terms of Canadians playing traditional import positions, break the bank-ers. There aren't many teams paying running backs as much as Calgary does, basically them and BC. Taman didn't adhere to this model and the end results speak for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Should you break the bank for one player? It is interesting how Calgary uses the NFL model for their salary structures. Huff believes that certain positions warrant a specific range in pay structure. When a player gets to the top end and his demands exceed Huff's scale his philosophy is to find a replacement. That is not unique. You pretty much described the roster management that every professional sports team goes through, every team has a structure, they aren't making decisions in a vacuum. Different managers place different values on certain positions and factors. Muamba would be comparable to Cornish in terms of Canadians playing traditional import positions, break the bank-ers. There aren't many teams paying running backs as much as Calgary does, basically them and BC. True, but if you use Cornish as a comparison, does Muamba bring the same level of on-field impact that Cornish does knowing their on opposite sides of the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 Should you break the bank for one player? It is interesting how Calgary uses the NFL model for their salary structures. Huff believes that certain positions warrant a specific range in pay structure. When a player gets to the top end and his demands exceed Huff's scale his philosophy is to find a replacement. That is not unique. You pretty much described the roster management that every professional sports team goes through, every team has a structure, they aren't making decisions in a vacuum. Different managers place different values on certain positions and factors. Muamba would be comparable to Cornish in terms of Canadians playing traditional import positions, break the bank-ers. There aren't many teams paying running backs as much as Calgary does, basically them and BC. True, but if you use Cornish as a comparison, does Muamba bring the same level of on-field impact that Cornish does knowing their on opposite sides of the ball? Muamba plays every snap on D and probably every special team. At his peak Cornish played 2/3 of the offensive snaps and got 17 touches a game. Fantuz, Getzlaf and Cornish are all in the $225,000 neighbourhood, and there are a handful of offensive linemen up there too. I think Muamba will be the highest paid Canadian in the league if he comes back. mbrg and HardCoreBlue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Henoc is a special teams demon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty30 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 I believe Henoc should be one of the highest paid Canadians in the league with the exception of perhaps one or two Olinemen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Would love to see Muamba back here but not at any price. There always to seems to be one or two CFL GM's who see this sort of thing as a pecker contest and get carried away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Bass-muamba-leggett Any price. Muamba gives us at least a chance at the cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Would love to see Muamba back here but not at any price. There always to seems to be one or two CFL GM's who see this sort of thing as a pecker contest and get carried away. We know who one of them is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 It says here http://www.nfl.com/player/henocmuamba/2543538/profilethat Henoc is now 242lbs. That's almost the same size as DE Justin Cole. As that accurate? Can he play defensive end ? I believe he was only at 230(ish) when he left the Bombers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted September 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Lawless says Henoc is visiting the Lions today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Lawless says Henoc is visiting the Lions today. at the Toronto Zoo? OldSchoolBlue, Harbaugh and MinisterOfD5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted September 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Lawless says Henoc is visiting the Lions today. at the Toronto Zoo? lol BC Lions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 He'll probably make the Bombers his last stop and he eventually signs here. Shanks and SPuDS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 He'll probably make the Bombers his last stop and he eventually signs here. I'm hoping Walters said to him "Go get everyones offer then come talk to me" SPuDS and mbrg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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