Stickem Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 14 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: Longer term deal is a good idea, maybe Walters can convince Schoen to sign if he offers him $650k over 3 years. I like the idea of longer term contracts for established stars...First we have to find out what Schoen's figure is for reupping here and go from there.....Good tactic for players you really covet BUT in Schoen's case I believe he's still interested in something down south...Until that's no longer an issue I don't think any talks will be taking place Fatty Liver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 45 minutes ago, wbbfan said: Not awful by current wr standards but I wouldn’t wanna pay begel 200k a year. He's one of the top CFL receivers & the terms are good for both sides. Also heard that Dickenson said they can't afford to bring in another qb so Maier is his guy. One less CFL team to go to when he lands. The market for Brown is shrinking. Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said: He's one of the top CFL receivers & the terms are good for both sides. Also heard that Dickenson said they can't afford to bring in another qb so Maier is his guy. One less CFL team to go to when he lands. The market for Brown is shrinking. Going all in on Maier was very foolish imo. The guy showed next to nothing Calgary’s loss will be Ottawa’s gain I guess HardCoreBlue and Tracker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said: He's one of the top CFL receivers & the terms are good for both sides. Also heard that Dickenson said they can't afford to bring in another qb so Maier is his guy. One less CFL team to go to when he lands. Doors closing all over the place for the pivot position....Ottawa seems the best place for Brown at the moment UNLESS Masoli decides and the team decides they want to continue with his services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, JohnnyAbonny said: Going all in on Maier was very foolish imo. The guy showed next to nothing Calgary’s loss will be Ottawa’s gain I guess According to 3DN Maier made. Hard money: $405,000 Maximum value: $447,000 No reason he shouldn't take a $100k haircut as he didn't produce up to those salary expectations. Noeller, HardCoreBlue and JohnnyAbonny 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wbbfan Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 38 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: He's one of the top CFL receivers & the terms are good for both sides. Also heard that Dickenson said they can't afford to bring in another qb so Maier is his guy. One less CFL team to go to when he lands. The market for Brown is shrinking. I don’t put him in the top tier at all. I have him as a good established guy but behind the elite tier and the second tier of young upstarts that break out every year. I do agree that browns market is quickly shrinking though. 38 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said: Going all in on Maier was very foolish imo. The guy showed next to nothing Calgary’s loss will be Ottawa’s gain I guess it wasn’t as much about maier as it was about blm being toast. But maier isn’t a guy I’d want to have as qb1 on my team. 34 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: According to 3DN Maier made. Hard money: $405,000 Maximum value: $447,000 No reason he shouldn't take a $100k haircut as he didn't produce up to those salary expectations. Ooof. 20 minutes ago, Noeller said: interesting. More punts? Same danger but for less guys. Idk how they are gonna do it with out making it a gong show. Piggy 1, bb1 and Stickem 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 40 minutes ago, Noeller said: Maybe they can do a ball scramble like the original XFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted January 10 Author Report Share Posted January 10 I'm all for player safety but wildly against being like the NFL. Kick returns are one of the things that make the CFL more exciting than the NFL. Stickem, CodyT, bb1 and 5 others 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBlink Posted January 10 Report Share Posted January 10 Please don't make the rules more like the NFL. This is one of those things that would make me like the product a lot less wbbfan, Stickem, Noeller and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted January 11 Author Report Share Posted January 11 (edited) more on kick returns: Edited January 11 by Noeller Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Negatron Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Does the CFL have actual hard numbers on how many injuries occur on kickoffs? HardCoreBlue and rebusrankin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 14 hours ago, Super Duper Negatron said: Does the CFL have actual hard numbers on how many injuries occur on kickoffs? Cfl can’t even manage regular in season stats for 3/4 of the year lol bb1, Dr Zaius, JCon and 2 others 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 15 hours ago, Super Duper Negatron said: Does the CFL have actual hard numbers on how many injuries occur on kickoffs? Great question. Reasonable to ask so decisions are evidence-informed not a small group of people cooking something up. wbbfan and WinnipegGordo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 19 hours ago, wbbfan said: I don’t put him in the top tier at all. I have him as a good established guy but behind the elite tier and the second tier of young upstarts that break out every year. I do agree that browns market is quickly shrinking though. it wasn’t as much about maier as it was about blm being toast. But maier isn’t a guy I’d want to have as qb1 on my team. Ooof. interesting. More punts? Same danger but for less guys. Idk how they are gonna do it with out making it a gong show. Opt for ball placement after a td? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 (edited) I'd be somewhat on board if the team that scored the TD got the option for those kickoffs...or ball at 40 for other team. After a FG let the receiving team decide. Otherwise up to the last 3 mins of the game you penalize the team that just scored if they want to maybe try an onside or gain field position. Edited January 11 by JuranBoldenRules johnzo, Bigblue204, JCon and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigg jay Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Looks like Brown is down another potential landing spot. https://3downnation.com/2024/01/11/stampeders-give-qb-jake-maier-six-figure-signing-bonus-in-exchange-for-salary-cap-space/ wbbfan, JohnnyAbonny, bb1 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 39 minutes ago, bigg jay said: Looks like Brown is down another potential landing spot. https://3downnation.com/2024/01/11/stampeders-give-qb-jake-maier-six-figure-signing-bonus-in-exchange-for-salary-cap-space/ Pretty soon if he wants to have the chance to be at the reigns of his own team he will have to look at the xfl 4.0. bigg jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 Look I’m all for player safety but why is the league so fascinated with putting the ball on the 40? It’s an easy FG drive at the least for any competent offence. As a reward for your D giving up a touchdown? That’s just plain stupid. 1 hour ago, bigg jay said: Looks like Brown is down another potential landing spot. https://3downnation.com/2024/01/11/stampeders-give-qb-jake-maier-six-figure-signing-bonus-in-exchange-for-salary-cap-space/ Again, foolish of them. I’m pretty sure it was always going to be Ottawa though. On the field, I don’t see them as the shitshow some others here do. They were a decent team last year with no QB and a lot of bad luck. Hell, they beat the Bombers. With a consistently good QB, couple pieces in FA? They could get very good very quickly. Bigblue204, Fatty Liver, Mark H. and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 (edited) my bad- thought someone said Stumps did. Edited January 11 by Wanna-B-Fanboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted January 11 Report Share Posted January 11 5 hours ago, wbbfan said: Cfl can’t even manage regular in season stats for 3/4 of the year lol 5 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said: Great question. Reasonable to ask so decisions are evidence-informed not a small group of people cooking something up. I would guess that this is based on what the NFL discovered about CTE and how reckless the hitting is on special teams. It isn’t about obvious injuries but the long term effects of brain damage. Remember that the wedge busting play and having more than two blockers together is a new rule to prevent the kicking team have that suicide player blast into 4 blockers to “bust the wedge”. All a result of the CTE lawsuit and NFL settlement and reducing the risk of brain damage long term. 40 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said: Look I’m all for player safety but why is the league so fascinated with putting the ball on the 40? It’s an easy FG drive at the least for any competent offence. As a reward for your D giving up a touchdown? That’s just plain stupid. Following the huge downturn in scoring in 2021, the league stated out loud that they wanted more scoring and less punts, so they moved kickoffs back 5 yards and changed the starting point post-FG to the 40 to facilitate more field goal chances with shorter drives. Bigblue204 and Fatty Liver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 23 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said: I would guess that this is based on what the NFL discovered about CTE and how reckless the hitting is on special teams. It isn’t about obvious injuries but the long term effects of brain damage. Remember that the wedge busting play and having more than two blockers together is a new rule to prevent the kicking team have that suicide player blast into 4 blockers to “bust the wedge”. All a result of the CTE lawsuit and NFL settlement and reducing the risk of brain damage long term. Following the huge downturn in scoring in 2021, the league stated out loud that they wanted more scoring and less punts, so they moved kickoffs back 5 yards and changed the starting point post-FG to the 40 to facilitate more field goal chances with shorter drives. Well if your guess is correct that needs to be communicated directly to the teams and fans of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JohnnyAbonny Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said: I would guess that this is based on what the NFL discovered about CTE and how reckless the hitting is on special teams. It isn’t about obvious injuries but the long term effects of brain damage. Remember that the wedge busting play and having more than two blockers together is a new rule to prevent the kicking team have that suicide player blast into 4 blockers to “bust the wedge”. All a result of the CTE lawsuit and NFL settlement and reducing the risk of brain damage long term. Following the huge downturn in scoring in 2021, the league stated out loud that they wanted more scoring and less punts, so they moved kickoffs back 5 yards and changed the starting point post-FG to the 40 to facilitate more field goal chances with shorter drives. I think the downturn in scoring was more to do with the fact that A-They had a year with no football B- 6/9 teams were using a new offence, new QB or both C- The Bomber D kicked the crap out of everyone and single-handedly brought down the scoring average I feel like the league jumps the gun implementing rule changes a lot of the time. Edited January 12 by JohnnyAbonny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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