ddanger Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 10 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Why are all these refs leaving mid season? I thought working together to develop chemistry with all the official's teams was important. Why wouldn't they retire after the season was over? Good point. Leaves the league high and dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, Geebrr said: WTF is this ****? Sard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wideleft Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 30 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Will he? Tons of one year wonder qbs in the cfl history. No guarantees Kelly can sustain this play. Especially when his contract will eat into some of his teams depth Plus every game he plays gives other teams more video on how to defend him. I'm still not convinced he's going to end up 10% better than Fajardo over the next 3 years. He might, but I'm still underwhelmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, Wideleft said: Plus every game he plays gives other teams more video on how to defend him. I'm still not convinced he's going to end up 10% better than Fajardo over the next 3 years. He might, but I'm still underwhelmed. I get that someone might want to wait and see before judging this contract. Still early days and all that. But underwhelmed by his play? I don't know what he'd have to do to make you whelmed. Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wideleft Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 55 minutes ago, bluto said: I get that someone might want to wait and see before judging this contract. Still early days and all that. But underwhelmed by his play? I don't know what he'd have to do to make you whelmed. Show consistency as a passer? Win games when the team doesn't have every 3rd week off? Wanna-B-Fanboy, BigBlueFanatic and Stickem 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 Argo's are absolutely paying Kelly for what they expect him to do, not what he has done. Personally, I think it's an overpay, but time will tell. Wanna-B-Fanboy, Bigblue204 and Wideleft 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wideleft Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 18 minutes ago, TBURGESS said: Argo's are absolutely paying Kelly for what they expect him to do, not what he has done. Personally, I think it's an overpay, but time will tell. I think hope is playing strongly into those expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 He's won 9 games...he's been impressive enough imo. But I'm surprised at the timing and price of the contract. The 1st half of the year was the easiest schedule in the CFL by a mile. Imo the Argos should have let the season play out a bit longer...I mean they HAD to re-sign the guy. But I think they may have been able to save a bit on the contract. Geebrr, bb1 and Wideleft 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 So, how much of The Chode's salary guaranteed? If it isn't a lot of guaranteed money, he doesn't live up to his contract or is a bust next year and they just let him go. Bigblue204, JohnnyAbonny and BigBlueFanatic 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 Just now, Wanna-B-Fanboy said: So, how much of The Chode's salary guaranteed? If it isn't a lot of guaranteed money, he doesn't live up to his contract or is a bust next year and they just let him go. Isn't the max 50% of your final year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said: So, how much of The Chode's salary guaranteed? If it isn't a lot of guaranteed money, he doesn't live up to his contract or is a bust next year and they just let him go. That's really the biggest thing with this contract. And I haven't heard anything about any of it being guaranteed...I can't imagine that, I'm sure there's a decent amount coming to him no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said: So, how much of The Chode's salary guaranteed? If it isn't a lot of guaranteed money, he doesn't live up to his contract or is a bust next year and they just let him go. His contract says: $615k in 2024 including $250 signing bonus that he wont receive when he sign in the NFL $625k in 2025 $625k in 2026 Edited September 1, 2023 by M.O.A.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, M.O.A.B. said: $615k in 2024 including $250 signing bonus $625k in 2025 $625k in 2026 The 2024 bonus is an attempt at NFL-proofing the deal. ie: unless an NFL team offers guaranteed money, the $250k just for showing up at BMO next year is hard to beat. Edited September 1, 2023 by bluto Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, bluto said: The 2024 bonus is an attempt at NFL-proofing the deal. ie: unless an NFL team offers guaranteed money, the $250k just for showing up at BMO next year is hard to beat. Oof, well I hope he is the real deal and not a flash on the pan then. Otherwise The League needs Chode Smelly to be a gooder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 2 hours ago, bluto said: In seriousness, I don’t think it is a lock that Kelly will be better than Collaros in 2025 or 2026. This could be the best he ever plays. Wideleft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Geebrr said: In seriousness, I don’t think it is a lock that Kelly will be better than Collaros in 2025 or 2026. This could be the best he ever plays. True. That's totally within the realm of possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 I wish everyone would refer to Chad by his full name ...that being Chadwick....it's so much more refined ol chaps...and all that rot Wideleft, bluto and Mark F 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wideleft Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 The most obvious comparable to me is Dane Evans. 2 minutes ago, Stickem said: I wish everyone would refer to Chad by his full name ...that being Chadwick....it's so much more refined ol chaps...and all that rot Chadwick Aloysius Kelly III Stickem, GCJenks, JohnnyAbonny and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 18 minutes ago, bluto said: True. That's totally within the realm of possibility. Its very fitting that you use tom ******* green to rep Dane Evans 2.0. Wideleft, bluto and Noeller 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said: Its very fitting that you use tom ******* green to rep Dane Evans 2.0. Piggy 1 and Bigblue204 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 4 hours ago, 17to85 said: Will he? Tons of one year wonder qbs in the cfl history. No guarantees Kelly can sustain this play. Especially when his contract will eat into some of his teams depth yup...crap shoot....We seen Printers...that other dude in BC who flamed out....Franklin...all world beaters and the next big thing...just evaporate....so kudos to locking him up....but the money amount could have been distributed differently....they basically payig now, for future potential...now will it get realized??...thats the question Piggy 1 and Bigblue204 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyAbonny Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Stickem said: I wish everyone would refer to Chad by his full name ...that being Chadwick....it's so much more refined ol chaps...and all that rot Chadwick Kellington Wideleft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said: Chadwick Kellington The Third, Esquire. JohnnyAbonny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 7 hours ago, M.O.A.B. said: His contract says: $615k in 2024 including $250 signing bonus that he wont receive when he sign in the NFL $625k in 2025 $625k in 2026 Why do I still think that even with this huge salary that the Argos will still sign all their key veterans & have money left over to raid every team's top free agent because we know they'll never be over the cap. One set of rules for them & another for the rest of us. Just business as usual. Now, what will Dru Brown be asking for as a free agent??? And what if Nathan Rourke comes back? What will he want?? Between giving nearly $300,000 to receivers, $150-225,000 to Canadian OL & now $600,000 to quarterbacks how the hell can teams still function with the salary cap at $5.5 million?? Where's the room with the salary cap to retain key veterans??? The way this league is run kis ridiculous, I tell ya. rebusrankin, wbbfan and Jesse 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted September 1, 2023 Report Share Posted September 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Why do I still think that even with this huge salary that the Argos will still sign all their key veterans & have money left over to raid every team's top free agent because we know they'll never be over the cap. One set of rules for them & another for the rest of us. Just business as usual. Now, what will Dru Brown be asking for as a free agent??? And what if Nathan Rourke comes back? What will he want?? Between giving nearly $300,000 to receivers, $150-225,000 to Canadian OL & now $600,000 to quarterbacks how the hell can teams still function with the salary cap at $5.5 million?? Where's the room with the salary cap to retain key veterans??? The way this league is run kis ridiculous, I tell ya. Rourke won’t be back imo. Brown will get 250-300k imo. If you’re a team with a young un proven qb or journey men he’s an excellent addition to fight for the starting spot in camp and have the other guy back up. Teams like ham ott mtl could jump in on that. Teams like Edmonton maybe ssk could go after him to start for a bit more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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