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"Nuts to that I'll just call Thiadric Hansen" - Mike O'Shea... probably

To me it’s pretty obvious what their plan is on offence this year. It’s going to be a package/committee 12th man. 5OL (Bryant, Wallace, Ellsbury, Neufeld, Broxton) 1QB (Collaros) 1RB (Oliveria) 2 American Receivers (Pokey, White) 2 Canadian Receivers (Demski, Nield) and then 12 is going to be one of Chris-Ike (RB/FB), Daniels (TE/FB), Clercius (Receiver) or Cobb (Receiver) depending on the situation and play call.

Kind of annoying that we had 300 chances to draft Cenacle and he went off and had 111 yards and 2 TDs against us.

I fear we are mostly back to the same old, same old O'Shea roster.

Shitload of LB's and DB's though, both nationalities. Maybe Younger finally convinced the brain trust to go 3-3-6 primarily. Griffin/Woodbey as the SHARK.

Demski we were absolutely going to draft but Taman scooped us one spot before.

Special teams is still every 6th play in this league. You can't be ignorant enough to just look at a roster and go "hurr durr, so many linebackers." Half of those guys are special teamers. Put fullback beside 3 of their names if it makes you feel better. Having a guy with DL by his name on the roster who stands on the sideline and holds his helmet all game there just in case doesn't help us win anything. We have Gatkuoth to rotate in on the edge. I think it's fair to assume Younger has a plan to use Woodbey at 3 levels of the D. Our D is actually stacked. If people want to worry, worry about receiver and running back. Peterson looked like a stunned junior player in camp in the pre-season games. We're relying a lot on a bunch of Canadians who haven't been consistent or healthy across their careers (Nield, Cobb, Clercius).

I'm starting to think our scouts are garbage

I mean we don't have a backup punter either. If Sheahan gets hurt we call in another of the hundreds of Aussie punters. We don't need to have a backup for every spot on the PR.

Because he's not very good?

Bomber fans before the season - this 8 teams making the playoffs next year is some stupid **** Bomber fans after this season - thank Zod for the new playoff format. We might make the playoffs next year

I think we're going to be fine. Week 1 - Okay Vernon Adams has carved us a new A-Hole once or twice in the past. Who knows how that will pan out Week 2 - Home opener, Hamilton. Doesn't really scare me Week 3 - Bye Week 4 - Home Edmonton. Dub First month, done. No reason we can't be at least 2-1 IMO.

Dante Daniels would be Logan Stanley of the Bombers.

Not so much the cuts, just the roster deployment as usual. Looks like we’re gonna go old and then be surprised when we’re beat up at the end of the year and nobody on the PR has had a chance to play. We once again did not have “open competitions” by the looks of it … not that any of the Americans blew the doors off but looks like Corcoran/Cobb won a job just by existing.

About what I expected. Kylie and Ayers should be gone. Kelly and Corcoran too

We got some injuries me thinks. The one thing ppl need to remember is guys need to agree to go to the PR. One thing I know is lots of times guys say thanks but no thanks.

Yeah don't worry, I think that's a dumb plan too

He’s a guy we traded up to draft second over all. Hes a guy that was going to be signed as an imp before qualifying as a G. Lots of us were bullish on him, because even as he showed in pre season game 1, he’s got great strength and quickness. He and player where two of the best of a bad bunch, but didn’t get much pt despite brutal play in front of them. Meanwhile counting as a global on the thinnest dl in the league last year makes it pretty clear what would’ve been best. No one said he was guaranteed all star or great league starter. He was better than guys ahead of him but didn’t play. Now he’s gone, and we’ve still got korny and paper thin depth at dl. The young guy group at de are better then we’ve seen in a good while. but none of them are guaranteed to succeed. We have enough guys that 1 should flourish. But we haven’t exactly done a good job of front usage. Other teams go through our dl cuts, which people brush off because no one is an instant all star. But are other teams sifting through our db/wr/rb cuts? even ol doesn’t get looks. Lbers and dl cuts here get second looks in the league. Which means teams look at our usage of talent and say, “we can do more with those guys”

Do we really though? To me this is a continuation of the problems this defense has had. Neglecting depth on the DL and dressing more linebackers than we really need.

Does that leave Sheahan as our only global player? Weird

Gruden & Dunigan on the DAZN panel would be outstanding.

Agreed that we wanted him but he went at #6 and we didn't pick again until #11. Worked out in the end though. He was just starting to really establish himself as a pro when he hit FA and came home.

I'm going to piggyback off @JuranBoldenRules point about us ignoring Canadian offensive talent in the draft. It's killing us. Look at the top Canadian wrs. McInnis, Demski, Philpott bros, Emilus, Brisett, K.Mital, K.Smith. Outside of Smith, all were first rounders or a high second.

I would bet we'll be dressing 7 OL and Daniels Week 1. LT Bryant LG Wallace C Elsbury RG Neufeld RT Broxton Eli and Vibert as backups Demski is probably going to be down, Peterson comes on for him and Cobb starts. We've really just given up on adding any playmakers on O out of the draft for years now. I think we'll have a really good OL. But we have nothing at receiver.

Thats pretty cool....Grud's knows his stuff ya gotta admit

The bottom line for me is that Walters and O'Shea have broken faith with us fans and even though we do not know what went on behind closed doors, it seems we no longer trust them implicitly. I am willing to be proven wrong, but apart from Elgersma, we seem to be pretty much in the same situation as we were in the past 2-3 years. There is plenty of blame to spread around.

Easy to be "wrong" on an Osh controlled team...he will bypass talent for other odd reasons..and thats fact Case in point..Clinton out performed all import lbs in various areas..and is untapped potential..and we went total status quo...on a failing team of last few yrs..explain As for Bailey.. he on roster even as last guy will offer a lot more than whatever Canadian osh will put on...and thats a fact too...but not shocking in the least

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MOS+KW have been together since 2014 and remind me when Danny Mac joined. Nothing lasts forever.

that’s true but I don’t see teams struggling to find good dbs, and our system has a lot to do with it.

we’ve seen more then 100% turn over in scouts from 19/21 to now. even with different scouts we see the same problems. For one, it’s extremely rare that you find a top contributor from scouting at a position of need. Generally, teams excel at developing/scouting/using a couple positions and the majority of their young talent develops at positions of strength. For two, outside of extreme outlier players/positions it’s usually the 2nd year players who take massive steps. This is where roster management kills us. You could have the right guys, but not use them/keep them and each year repeat the same struggles even despite talent brought in. So who’s at fault? well the staffs have mostly rolled over. Mos, walter, and mac are the remaining common pieces. Mos’ weakness exacerbates walter’s issues. mos is 100% at fault, and walters is also 100% at fault. no splitting it. That said, it is walter’s job to mitigate and prevent compound issues like that. I will say that I feel like we’ve seen a bit of growth this year getting away from some of the issues. how much and if it’s enough, will depend on how the rosters look in the first month. I will add that the camp talent level the two years is trending in the wrong direction. And I think danny mac’s’ position is too cushy for how high he is in the org. I think we had a lot of answers at the positions of need this camp. But I think our roster direction is Atypical and risky. 3 ni wrs, 3 imp ol, defensive front etc. The only direction if this doesn’t go well is whole sale change at high level positions. We’ve put together a very strong potential roster. If our old guys stay healthy and if we play the proper young guys.

I dont like but can understand the Bailey cut. Gatkuoth and Bailey were vying for the same role and we really need Gatkuoth's passport on that unit. In a ratio world tough choices need to be made sometimes.

The biggest problem I see is not the money or how things are divvied up- it is how little and how poorly TSN promotes the CFL compared to hoe they treat the MLB, NBA and even the PWHL. The way the Argos and Stamps promote their teams also could stand a LOT of improvement.

Not seeing Singer on the active is a little strange....What else does the kid have to do to prove himself,,,,Frederickson I can see on the pr otherwise .....Didn't like the fact we dumped the Aussie kickers...The first game Sheehan starts effin' up and gets back to his shanking game I'm going to get a tad upset....I hope we're up for the CAL game ...Our regs haven't played much and will be a little rusty but hey, apparently Osh has all the answers

.....Hansen an Osh big fav.....He still talks about the 2 special teams guys Thiadric took out in the Cup game a few years back....Osh keepin' on keepin' on

He looked great in the *one* camp day I saw, but did virtually nothing in either preseason game. I’m more surprised that he was cut and the Korndog was put on the pr. How many dl does that leave us who aren’t American? Lawson, Gatkouth, & ? That honestly wouldn’t surprise me.

It looks like the available position player globals are our old friends Maruo, Hansen plus rookies to game play at DL yondjouen and miangue

Can't believe they cut the LB who had a one handed pick six, I guess they weren't moved by it

In regards to Daniels not getting targets…. Is it possible that they view him as a bit of a surprise element for week 1 and didn’t want to put anything about him other than blocking on film.

Odd choices..Dumping Randolph for Poncias? He showed zip Not sure what more Clinton needed to do..send away a promising young guy but keep 2 older vets..one of whom (Jones) is limited in what he is good at Where did Oledejo materialize from?? why Singer isnt on active is puzzling..hope we ain't going 3 Canadian recievers..we have not the depth for that..especially if Clercius is out for a bit...then keep 3 imports on PR? Coulda used one those spots for Clinton or Young Osh be oshin

It’s ironic that senacle put up 2 TDs last night and Daniels wasn’t even noticeable. This fascination with reaching for career special teamers is wild and the video they posted definitely made it seem like a KW organizational way of thinking. Not just that 20 second clip tho, interviews and just past actions show it’s an organizational direction. Like instead of going with talent they go character and over coming odds.its almost like American idol where saddest personal story wins or in this case makes the team. Bombers would Start Rudy. And that should be Daniels nickname. Rudy. Now I liked Rudy but we have a few 2 many of them types where they do 1 thing maybe and that’s it, Rudy prob be a good cfl special teams guy, not sure Daniels corks etc are.

Well we were waist deep in Canadian receivers, so much so we could use two 2nd round picks to pick a tight end 6 of 9 teams in the league had never even thought about.

I count 52 players on the roster plus 2 on 6 game IR. 25 Canadians, 22 Americans, 2 Globals and 3 QBs. Something like this:

lol I’m not even gonna get upset, I should know better by now

Yep. Nichols too. Biggest concern isn't his arm, not by a mile. But for a QB3 who will do short yardage and could run some strev pack type stuff, He's a real good fit.

Man, a US game broadcast with a panel of Gruden, Johnson, and Flutie would be awesome.

It was the worst pre-season stream yet. At the beginning they didn't have CJOB in sync. The play was over before they started describing it. They showed folks in the crowd instead of the plays. Showed ads while the play was going on. Pure amateur hour.

Yes. The trend very much has the vibe of trying to showcase the league for other people at the expense of existing fans.

In a vacuum, I don't think I would mind this. I'd be able to appreciate the increased revenue and I might talk myself into the DAZN subscription (I used to have it to watch NFL but cancelled it to save money). I feel the same way about the play-off changes. I see a direct way that those changes benefit the league through increases revenue. But taken all together - and sandwiched around the changes to the field which have no ties to revenue at all - it's hard to swallow. It just feels like I'm being pushed out step by step. Me and my buddies are all guys in our 30's with young families who all have season tickets. But with each announcement, we all feel less and less excited about the future. I don't know how much more we're open to.