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Regardless of who takes our #2 spot this coming season, my hope is MOS and company have a little less anxiety in using QB2 when/if ZC consistently struggles during the game.

That's pretty much how I expect it to go down as well - ZC, Perkins, Wilson with Artopoeus or Thorne on the PR. Might get interesting if Elgersma does show up at some point though - would they stick him on the PR where he could be poached or would he bump Perkins or Wilson from the AR?

dont think Wilson tho really been giving a chance....he showe something in yr one...has poise and presence...best arm....but last yr with Dinglenuts as OC was a waste and everyone actually regressed...Make or break for Wilson tho this yr...and I actually think Perkins is gonna look impressive....so if Wilson doesnt shoot the lights out and look legit, he likely gone Elgersma is a project and really shouldn't be counted on anything but that this yr...or even next if he signs....He is a CIS trained QB who had some success in college against 85 percent of players who were glorified high school stars finishing off their football lives, and a big part of his success.....and hasnt played meaningful football going on 2 yrs now....No CIS QB is gonna be a factor early on in career...if ever. People like to push it...TSN especially and when has it happened....Just look to recent with FORD....Uber athletic, all the things you want in a pro.....Except abilty to make it work in the pros...looked good against Canadian College kids.....but in pro's a different ball game Elgersma sure has a better arm....even still tho....doesnt compute to immediate success and to expect it right outta the gate....is just asking to flop

I don't really see the purpose of bringing MBT in right now...If Collaros goes down for a significant amount of time and the guys behind him flounder, then sure get a vet who has shown he can be competent. But right now they'd be better off giving as many reps as possible to the young guys they have.

Don't forget Elgersma is also a possibility. Walters believes they might get more info on by the end of the month when NFL teams are done signing futures contracts.

Or in swapping if we are late in a blow out

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If you watch Perkins in the UFL the offense is basically zone read or a fire drill every snap (there's tons of UFL stuff on YouTube, you can basically find every snap he took). I don't think he'll be able to do much from the pocket in the CFL. The ball doesn't move quick and he never sets his feet so the ball doesn't get anywhere on time or accurate. He's a fadeaway passer, lobs the ball. He is a complete run/scramble style QB. So he's not going to be able to function in an offense anything like the base offense we will be running around a guy like Collaros. But you could build something around him as a backup that relies on Zone Read, either hand it off, run it or chuck it up hope someone runs under it. The intermediate pass game will not exist for him at this level.

Pointless picking any of the remaining scraps up...serves zero purpose really and we need to just go with our guys and like mentioned by other's...give whoever comes out as number 2 actual playtime during the yr when we can....and just doesnt have to be in a blow out, or an end of game pointless reps Be it Wilson...(does he step up) as he has the best arm in camp, though have yet to see Perkins up close...Or Perkins who I may think actually impresses and isnt the typical kinda first yr i the pro's guy we usually bring in....Looking forward to the battle with him and Wilson...The greek kid gives me no sense of him being anything, and likley cut, and the other nice intriguing rookies we signed are just that....future prospects and a big nothing burger for this yr Where we failed in past...and not just at QB is giving backups and guys with potential no meaningful reps ...ever....that has to change

Robustelli went to Edmonton. And I'm really doubting the bombers are major players after what they've already done. Sounds like they might grab some cheaper smaller pieces, but nothing major...

Wrs, I believe these are what’s left: Rambo, bridges, daniel’s, henry, addison, rhymes, gittens and robustelli. Of those guys, rambo, robustelli, and bridges would be great combinations of value and fit. Rhymes and Gittens are likely out side of our price range. Rambo is my favorite of those 3, but who ever will come in to fight for a spot and do the dirty stuff at a good price would be best. For pass rushers i’m including 40 ends, 3-4 ends and 3techs. We have the coaching staff and pieces to move guys around and capitalize on disruption from any where. Shane ray is the coveted guy remaining, probably out of our price too. Cox from the riders is very under valued imo, Lanier could flourish is more limited reps he might help flip our DLs soft personality and push our culture there, Mauldin is a reclamation project but a guy who can elevate camp as a mercenary needing to take a job. Of those guys, I’d really like cox, mauldin or lanier. Cox is the best player to step in for sure. Onyenka would be a real nice depth/teams fit, especially if we don’t manage to draft some one who can play. We could also go and look at the guys from the past 2 years drafts and haven’t gotten a chance or enough reps. We’ve had a couple good trades sending picks for guys like that. For guys like that, Ojo, brubacher, okpoko, Newell, harris, hubert, hergot, ageli, or von muehldorfer. Some of those guys are teams dudes who you need to polish into limited rep use. Some are guys who can get after the qb in limited reps, but you should polish into more useful teams/back end roster guys. Of those I like Newell, Brubacher, Von muehldorfer and silas hubert. Our dl is soo thin, we need talent, especially canadian talent. We have a starter and no guy who is a starter if he goes down.

I wonder how what his snap count would have been if Strevy doesn't blow out his knee? The only game Wilson saw action beyond short yardage was the last game of the regular season when ZC was sitting and then Strevy went down early. Took a worst case scenario to see what he could do (to be expected for QB3 though) and what we saw wasn't good.

Sure. These are the drop-back snaps for QBs who were the QB3 overall or at some point. BC, Masoli had 91, Brice had 4. Cal, walker 66, vaughn 32, love 8 Edm, snider 0 Ham, Dole 0, powell 9 Mtl, Morgan 98, Evans 37, Dukes 2 Ott, Adams 69, Shiltz 57 Sask, Coan 9 To, Duggan 20, Horn 14 Again, Wilson had 26. Pretty bad for sure. Bellefeuille was a chunk better than hogan still imo. Wr core, bit of a push imo.

Jason Boltus... that was the lowest that I can ever remember. Guy fumbled snaps and tossed ints in his extremely limited time.

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Wilson got reps, Wilson sucked when given them. Surprised he is still here. Hard to get your 3rd string reps when for the past two seasons we have not been in very many games that is traditional put in your 3rd string guy time. Gotta remember that Streveler also need the reps. Lotsa, he should have got reps posts but very little thought expressed as to when we could have given them.

I'm talking strictly TC. In season reps is hard to count on. If they're always in close games, you're not going to put a back up in. Hindsight is 20/20 but nothing can be done about that now. Bringing in MBT or any other cast off, will only hurt the guys who are going to camp.

well apparently they saw some the errors of their ways....or so we were sold, so hopefully thats one of them....cause it crippled us for several yrs running If I was a betting man I'd say we break camp with ZC...Perkins and Wilson as he is the only guy with any relevant experience.....for that "just in case moment" but how they use the 2 others will be interesting. I think Perkins will be the actual backup and a guy we build some packages around to get him nicely integrated, and Wilson stays as the short yardage guy for most part

Ah thanks. Yeah it's a pita to keep track of availability from the tampering window on for a bit. Good pick up for them. I do agree, we won't be doing much for a while. I think we might dive back into the frey if things stretch out with the guys who are left. The only real advantage to publically saying we are out of FA, like walters basically did, is pushing a final deal or two imo. Really dont want him at this point. The QB class is extremely bad for experienced guys, but he's low on the short list of bad options. I don't expect us to make a satisfactory move at qb tbh.

A chance for the wealthy to come out & say "Yay sports"? It's all about the money. With one burger going for $180 USD (about $245 CAD), it's a prime example of how the game is not for the average person. The Most Expensive Item on the Super Bowl LX Menu Is an Absolute Monstrosity

He was also pretty beat up last year and was dealing with an arm issue (elbow and/or should iirc). Wasn't really given a chance to heal properly or play at 100% because Davis kept getting hurt and so did Caleb Evans.

MBT wasn't good last year

MBT: Might set a historically bad precedence Throws a nice looking ball...to a linebacker. Is the only decent guy available

You’ll be glad to be reminded he agreed to terms with Ottawa

MBT would be the only guy worth bringing in but just doesn't seem like a FIFO guy.

Yeah I'm not sure either. They will likely take one of Artopeous and Wilson and one of Thorne and Perkins. I can't imagine they will start the year with Collaros and no CFL experience behind him. My guess it will be TD Terry running short yardage and Perkins waiting in the wings.

For backup qb MBT. For receiver Kurleigh Gittens Jr.

that would be a big surprise to see. Dude lets players play through their struggles and doesn't even like to take out Collaros when the Bombers are on the good side of a blowout. Not pulling struggling Zach doesn't bother me so much -- Zach's upside is far far far greater than that of a Terry Wilson or even a Streveler. Multiple times over his career he's gone from zero in one quarter to hero in another. If it was someone like Taylor Powell or MBT or Brown on the bench behind Zach, someone who's proven he belongs in the CFL, I might feel different. So unless MOS abruptly changes his ways, only a ZC8 injury will result in significant backup reps. Zach has been actually been pretty durable the past few years -- started all 18 games in 2022-2024 and started 13 last year, and one of his missed games was the BS piss test one.

And don't forget the Seahawks punter, he had a real good game. And I really dig the Puerto Rican and Caribbean culture especially after the half time show.

I forgot about that... the pain of losing him has forced me to take that memory away :) I think he was given his play time based on injuries to the other qbs.

According to PFF, 68 snaps last year, 28 drop-back snaps. 24 of his snaps were designed run, keeper, kneel, etc. It also lists him as having 2 "big time" throws and 3 turnover-worthy plays. In 24, he had 6 drop-backs, 24 designed runs, on 40 total snaps with 1 turnover-worthy play. I don't put any value other than crude entertainment on their own metrics, but as a fun fact, Wilson was their worst rated qb and worst-rated passer in the whole league last year. They had Wilson as a 42.2 overall and 29.9 as a passer vs strevy at 62.2 and 57.4. They only had strev as the 9th-worst passer and 15th worst qb. Which seems wildly inaccurate, and deeply depressing at the same time. Im not sure a clear downgrade exists from Hogan, strev, those wrs/ol.

He'd be an enormous upgrade over Steveler.....thats not saying much but Id kick tires.

I keep thinking about a few years back when the Riders brought in guys like Patterson/Dolegala/Fine and those guys were able to hop right in and play. They weren't running a dink and dunk 5 yard check down game either, they ran the complete O with varying levels of success and failure. It feels like the Blue haven't done anything like this in years. It's always a back up QB comes in and it's just flat.

I mean, even pre-season and tc I didn't see a click moment from him. The offence was awful last year and not a lot better last year. We could really use a QB coach in camp. I hate that we don't have one. Bring in a guy like Masoli as a player-coach to sit on the IR, itd make a big difference. I'm not sold that he has poise; instead of just lacks pocket awareness. He has tons of arm talent, but man, his window is really small now. He also had 2 years in the USFL before coming here. As a qb you really have to show something after that many pro camps. (1 nfl with the cowboys, 2 usfl, 2 cfl) He had 1 good year in juco, and kicked around 3 solid programs before/after with out significant success. Basically, a pretty good HS kid, with 1 good juco year, and a lot of bouncing. That type of history, especially in a higher 3-star prospect in both juco and HS, should rise quickly. And he just hasn't. I'm good with Wilson being in camp, but he should be on thin ice. He needs to take a step forward and act fast to earn a spot. I like Perkins upside too, with him it'll all come down to how quickly he adapts to the Canadian game. He's pretty late in life for a QB coming up here. Thorne is a solid prospect, too. If the ball gets out of his hand quickly enough against pros, he could have some success. It's a bad position to be in, no back up qb with any level of productivity in the CFL. The QB market is ugly, and our QB room is one of the most challenged in the league. I thought both extended in montreal? Maybe I'm crazy. Wouldn't be the first time we took an easy recirculation type guy.

Evans and Patterson are both pending FA's and AFIK have not agreed to terms anywhere yet. They were listed at #5 & 12 on 3DN's top FA QB's so either one could be had if there was interest on our part. Don't see them bringing back Patterson though since he didn't even make it out of camp with us last year. 2026 CFL free agent rankings: quarterbacks - 3DownNation

Terry Wilson, at this point, is no further along than any rando 1 year guy, or most rookies out of camp imo. 2 TCs and he hasn't shown progress after just having turned 28. I think if you bring Wilson into camp, he has to have a short leash. He'd really need to win reps in the first preseason game. QB is the one position we will go into camp worse off at. Zach is a year older, Strev is toast, no one else has progressed behind him, as we never successfully replaced Brown as a back up qb. Even if Elgersma signs, I think he's a year away from being more than a qb3 at least. Perkins has a mountain of work to do adjusting to the CFL game. Maybe Perkins catches on fast, or Elgersma catches lightning in a bottle, or some other miracle befalls one of the other QBs, but that would be in camp. Till then, we have a huge ? mark. I think our backup plan is going to be Montreal. Davis is their guy, and I think they like Morgan a lot. Which leaves one of Evans and Patterson on the outside looking in. One of them gets cut, or maybe we work a trade if camp goes poorly. After that, it's the likes of what remains of MBT/Masoli, or even worse, the pest. If Zach gets hurt in camp/pre-season, we are beyond screwed. More than 2 and out check downs too.

It wasn’t that long ago that he was iffy about even playing, due to his wife’s lucrative job. Surprised he hasn’t hung it up.

That's what I mean though. Bringing him in now will further hurt our young guys. If Collaros goes down for an extended time and Wilson + whoever else they keep look incompetent, then sure go get MBT. I just don't see how it benefits the team to bring him in now

Veteran insurance. It would be nice if for this season they can give our back ups some real reps throughout the season. Many times over the last several seasons we could have given Wilson or McGuire before him some real reps.

Game felt a lot like our 2019 GC win. Darnold scrambling like a young Zach. Defense was huge. Offense did just enough and the kicker made a ton of FGs. Half Time show was spectacular. It was like a mini musical or an opera. BBs music is not for me, but I really appreciated what they were going for... And Gaga and Ricky Martin were fab as always.

Defense wins championships. Offense sells tickets.

Bad bunny was the most entertaining part by far. What a boring game. The Super Bowl generally is terrible tho. I just think it’s funny that with 7 minutes left in quarter 1, collingsworth is like If the patriots don’t make a first down here this could be the game. Cuz Seattle was about to make it 9 0. Imagine hearing that in the cfl lol.

I think Unless he shows he can pass the ball this camp he’s cut.

So we’ve given up on Terry Wilson being able to do things other than plunge forward for one yard?

And I say hey what a wonderful kind of day we can learn to laugh and play and get along with each other.

They could have just released him, which is what most teams would have done. By transferring Ceresna's contract to the Bombers, it eliminated any opportunity for a screw up. Like another team trying to scoop in to try to sign in. Hervey did Walters a favour, maybe he's getting a steak dinner out of the deal.

Yes.