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The older QB's like Bo and Harris seem to be aging like fine wine. Our old QB is aging like homogenized milk poured into a Betamax machine thats been left in the New Delhi heat during Diwali.

His protection has been getting worse year over year for the last three or so years and Zach been increasingly uncomfortable in the pocket. Scheme (this year) was definitely a factor but Zach himself has gotten happy feet and he's as much to blame for the shots he takes as the inadequacy of the offensive line or any offensive scheme.

Yup and we will never know what's correct here if we continue to play players like JT etc.

BLM was horrendous in the 2nd half of last season. If anyone else in that division has a healthy QB the majority of the season Hamilton is probably 3rd or 4th place.

This sentence was a tough read.

2 yrs.....didnt expect that...

Sankey released

yeah...They both have that too fat to be athletic and effective look, and the looking lost image more times than not on the field At least Kolo kept his shirt pulled down so his arse crack and gut wasnt exposed for all to see....utter embarrassing

I blame scheme more than OL for the hits Zach was taking to be honest.

It's mot just some DEs looking good in one game... think about the home preseason game... the #1s looked ho-hum but as soon as the 2s went in the performance level went up noticeably.

I think if the CFL got the top QBs to pay up to a million bucks, it'd be great for the league. As it is, we can't get the backups to shake loose from the NFL anymore. No fringe NFL QBs come here for a chance to play anymore, especially if they got good NIL money in college. We can't rely on just hitting the lotto, as a league, to fix our QB talent issue. Great QB play, is the easiest way to grow the league as well.

There is a kind of loose justification every team must give the league for the marketing money. According to most reports I've read about the justification to the league it is pretty close to "trust me bro".

Guys, its the fault of Shelbyville.

yup .......'Lard arse exposed' should be Jakes mantra.....when the hell is he going to ride off into the sunset....I hope soon

Insanity later.....

Yup but this is what I would look like as I'm chipping in my money. Love you JT.

He brought in the pieces to fix the issues. Mos didn't use them. Yes, he could've tried pushing Mos more. But he isn't the big boss either; that is Wade. Walters talked about how every personnel discussion used to be a fight with Mos and how it's changed post Grey Cup wins. It sure seems like the power structure from the top down does not go Wade to Walters, then to Mos. At this point, the ultimate responsibility and failure to maintain the contender we had falls to Miller. We hemorrhaged front office types, coaches, as well as players. That doesn't all fall on Walters. We had the pieces to win 2 more Grey Cups. You can't understand justifying a guy who was stuck in the middle, but still producing in Walters, but you can for Mos, who hasn't executed his job with any level of competence in years. Guys like Vaval, Allen, and Woodbey aren't bare minimums across the league, nor are all the other additions you chose to omit.

Idk what to expect with Qbs money. If Brady is going to get 250-300k, and many non-QB get low-end QB money, will Rourke be he new normal?

His plan of chuck it up for Lawler got figured out

wilson and lawson back is big. Hopefully on reasonable deals.

If there is no limit on marketing money, we should give Brady 200,000 (if he's coming back on a 300,000 deal) and give Zach something similar. Exploit that rule because we have the money.

Not Julie Kavner. The French voice of Marge. Béatrice Picard.

I think bringing this UFL all star guy in negates us bringing in a known commodity back up. QB3 will be some kinda prospect.

Also, the fact that the receivers were unable to create separation was a huge issue (also part of scheme too) our receiving core were buns at times.

Mike Kelly says "call me and we can chat".

That's not true. They ranged from showing well to ineffective. Look, no coach keeps crappy rookies out of camp over a clearly better player. You never know what you got exactly until they are under the Friday Night lights but you will never convince me that the newbies we kept were kept for any other reason than they looked the best in camp to not just OSH but the concensus of all our coaching staff, scouts and management. Cut down day all of these people weigh in on that, However, I am in agreement that many roster moves were baffling sometimes. I don't post this to exonerate MOS, he needs to be much better, I post my criticism of KW because some ppl are trying to give him a free pass after doing a horrible job because they want the focus to stay solely on MOS. KW and MOS, and their entire dynamic, is a problem and one that KW ultimately is the only guy that can resolve it. HE MUST DO HIS JOB BETTER. That means making MOS doing his job better as well. People are forgetting who the bottom line is on a **** season like last year. The GM has to wear it. If it was coaching then the coach should have been fired. It's that simple. You can spread the blame around certainly for last year but no one can try and paint KW as a victim of circumstance. That's BS. It absolutely is both men and furthermore the dynamic that has developed between them. At the end of the day though, only one man has the power to change that dynamic. You can't nlame an employee for being able to run over the boss.

That was NOT a report, that was SPECULATION. There is absolutely no source that anyone can point to that suggests KW is some powerless dupe stuck in the middle. Let's be clear on that. There is nothing to substantiate any of that and therefore it is not fact, it is purely speculation. Miller is a smart businessman, that we know, Walters can be a very good GM, that we know, MOS can also be a very good coach that we know. What none of us know is why there seems to be a disconnect and who is to blame. It is just as likely that KW was burnt out and underachieving, or just decided to say F it MOS can do what he wants. That's not power struggle that;s lazy and there is a big difference in culpability.

So you don't want to chip in for a gift for Jake when he hangs up his cleats?

Which of the 3 had the worst OL... That's a more important topic of discussion.

That is one way to look at it and it very well could be correct... or it could be correct that there was more talent here than roster usage showed.

Bo got his shoulder healthier and Harris stayed healthy this past season... neither one ever relied on their athleticism as much as collaros. That's the #1 problem here.

Walters who saw us go from the elite team to pretender wears the bottom line for all of it. He is the boss. Everything that is done in our organization falls on him. If Osh's handling of the roster is costing us, that's on Walters to address. You guys just want to hand the guy whose responsibility it is to have a championship roster a free pass and that's BS. He has not provided a championship calibre roster. If your measure of his success is that a couple DE's played great in an exhibition game, Woodbey, and Allen then it's no wonder he's getting this free pass. Talent lost FAR outweighs talent brought in thus our decline. We can say he was in roster maintenance mode, but again that's not what good GM's do and money is only an object if you do boneheaded things like pay a RB 250k and couple it with an over the hill QB making 600k. Is that on MOS too. As for money to spend, that's entirely and 100% Walters doing or undoing if you will. He controls the SMS and how it's spent. I still can't believe people are still trying to justify the crap job our front office has done over the past three years with last year being an absolute abomination. Vaval, Allen, Woodbey are a bare minimum for any team for an offseason. That being said I think Walters is a top notch GM when he applies himself. I think he got fat and sassy the past few years. I trust he can rebuild, what I don't trust is his recognition of need to do so. He has been far too happy to let talent go over the past several years without bringing equal amounts of talent back. That has to change....like right freaking now. This rule was written specifically for the Toronto Argos when they were spending like drunken sailors for a couple years. That's my theory anyway.

That has become so prominent across North American sports these days. NFL teams, especially with QBs carry dead years on the back of contracts in order to stretch out the term and pay more, knowing they will end up eating it. We see the same in MLB and the NBA, where if a guy has 2-3 good years left, you have to pay 5-6 to get those from him. I wonder if it's going to wind up better for him or the cats. Is it bonus/guaranteed money he will walk with if he retires after next year? Or is it just a lock in that if he decides to play the 2nd year that he will get paid what he wants for it. In the CFL, I could see having a guy like that sit the final year on a 6-game and get his base without hitting the cap.

Yeah our fine wine is now degraded into vinegar

Yep, the only limit is that the team has to be able to justify the amount of marketing money being paid to a player. If BC was allowed to give Rourke 200k, the Bombers should have no problems giving Brady a good chunk either.

Darren Becker, former Bombers equipment guy. https://www.instagram.com/p/DSEOA0DjFMU/

Yeah take advantage of the fact we have been pulling in the cash...reward the fans for that support

If there is no limit on market money, the Bombers should use it extensively. Club has been making bank the past few years.

Love it! I love that Wilson and Lawson are the first two guys signed. I think it means we’re prioritizing the youth. There was so many times I saw Lawson double and tripled teamed and he still got to the quarterback. He’s a beast and will only look even better next once we get some help beside him.

Good for Lawson.... Now let's actually play the ******* guy.

Glad that we've signed younger guys in Lawson and Wilson.

I asked her. She looked confused and disgusted and walked away as usual.

Walter's has brought in guys....and who knows what the guys we cut in camp who showed really well would have done if we didnt do the usual and gift spots to dead weight coach's favs The key thing this yr is Osh needs to smarten up and roster...and THEN play his best talent...and use his ratio to best compliment the team and talent here...not his lame carved in stone this is where we play Canadians regardless if they not the best.......basically his whole time here Aslo...maybe shelf his vision of playing excessive Canadians just cause he has a Maple Leaf flag up his keister, when it doesnt benefit us...just soothes his ego...agenda...whatever the heck it is, but it's utterly pointless

That's been the complaint about Osh for years. He trots out extra Canadians at positions where we have better American players. It goes on every year & then he scratches his head wondering why it didn't work in big games that we needed to win. he has never maximized our roater properly. We really don't know how good we can be.

Is it just me or does it seem counterintuitive to pay up for the "ratio breakers" with the way O'Shea uses his roster? Don't get me wrong, I know the CFL is all about how good your Canadian talent is, but part of me thinks there's no point paying 250k+ for a star Canadian RB/DB/WR/whatever because we aren't maximizing our roster with the ratio to play the most American talent anyways. With the way MOS just plays 8-9+ marginal Canadian starters and rotates in 3-4 more, we'd almost be better off with 10-12 good but not great Canadians and save our money overpaying for the Canadian starter at a non-traditional position. I wish we would utilize the fact that we have the luxury of a Canadian RB by using the extra American on the DL or OL, but instead most games we just trot out 7+ more Canadians at the regular spots too...