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I can respect that. But hes still a pos rider

I bought in, more to support the league than a sense of ego or personal legacy. I respect that some people feel it is a cash grab, but I look at it as a decimal place in my long term support of the team and the league during tough times. I fully respect the hard work and dedication that the players and coaches put into the game, all with the goal of getting their name on the cup. I don't want to diminish what they've done, but supporting this initiative doesn't put your name on the cup, only on the fan base. I've been a season ticket holder since 1970, and rarely miss a home game. I've been to 20+ Grey Cups including the last 17 in a row. I've been to games in every CFL city. I've coached kids at the amateur level who have gone on to play in the CFL. I believe that the fan base, especially the season ticket holders, are the bedrock of the league. I would respectfully suggest that I've got as much or more invested in this league as a player who played a half a season, got paid, and lucked out and made the game day roster on a championship team. As a note, I renewed my season tickets for the Bombers as a show of on-going support. I also have a subscription to the WSO, and I donated my "cancelled" tickets to the organization rather than request a refund. If we want to have these things in our city, we need to support them. I recognize that my financial situation is different than others, and that does affect the decision making process. Certainly years ago supporting the league like this wouldn't have been an option for me, so I don't cast shadows on those who don't participate. It's really not much different than supporting other charities, many of whom put up a plaque to recognize their donors.

Running should never get you shot in the back 7 times from close range. The "both sides" argument doesn't fly here.

What?? Are you telling me there isn't a market down south for a bizarre 32 year old journeyman quarterback?? Pshaw you say! He is a package deal though, comes with a bunch of ancestors.

I saw where you said it's 50/50. But it isn't 50/50 and I explained why, which you simply chose to ignore. The fact is one person here is the villain but he's the one who's supposed to be anything but a villain. And it isn't optics. A man was shot in the back at close range by an incompetent police officer. You can bring up media sensationalism, "juicy" glamorization, and trying to "sell stories" to make people complain and that's not without merit. However, that's another conversation altogether as it relates to problems with the media itself. This event, however, is just another example of statistics bearing out the fact there is a massive racial disparity in police shootings and black people are more likely to be shot and killed than any other ethnicity in the US. Nobody should be shooting anyone but a police officer should be the last person to open fire on a civilian with his back turned to him. https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/ (https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/aboutthedata) Take a look at those charts and figures. They all point to a massive problem with systemic issues, a terrible racial bias, and a glaring lack of accountability in law enforcement, all of which are highlighted by this particular incident in Kenosha, WI. And just because black on black civilian crime is higher doesn't change that reality. Your last paragraph is nothing more than textbook whataboutism and that type of logical fallacy serves no purpose here but to derail a thread. Those things you listed are all terrible and deserve to be discussed just the same, along with crime rates in marginalized communities, substance abuse, domestic violence, sex crimes, etc. I think it's more than fair to say anyone capable of empathy will not turn a blind eye towards any of those things. In fact, there have been protests surrounding many of those events and issues - on several occasions. But perhaps start up another thread if you feel the need to discuss them instead of the topic at hand.

If we could point to one group of uniformed badge-wearing child-rapists and condemn them we would. Unfortunately child-rapists tend not to self-identify or conduct themselves in the public eye. As for protesting wars... do you seriously not remember people protesting Iraq? Literally millions of Americans attended rallies leading up to and following the fall of Baghdad. Not to mention other countries that held their own protests. Politics... thousands are protesting the dismantling of the USPS (definitely the work of corrupt politicians) in the US right now this very moment with a heavy contingent of veterans among them. It's not weird for people to want the police to stop murdering unarmed black men (and make no mistake that's what they are doing... we have it on camera). It's weird to defend a police officer firing a weapon with one hand into an unarmed man's back as he tries to enter a vehicle full of children. It's like... totally indefensible. That cop ****** up hard and Americans of any color should expect better from their police.

Not sure a lot of guys would of done that

Numerous claims about Donald Trump and his intake of ‘not cola’

Fact checking the 1st night... The Republican National Convention started off with a parade of dishonesty, in stark contrast with last week's Democratic convention. While CNN also watched and fact-checked the Democrats, those four nights combined didn't have the number of misleading and false claims made on the first night of the Republicans' convention. “The first night of the 2020 Republican National Convention was a fire hose of false or misleading claim, mostly drawn from President Trump’s arsenal of falsehoods. Here are 19 claims that caught our attention.” The @washingtonpost factcheckers

I know what this implies..and you’re right. The circus is in town..

He sure doesn’t look comfortable answering all those oh so tough questions..

https://scitechdaily.com/nasa-research-reveals-the-true-causes-of-sea-level-rise-since-1900 and the results will shock you.

Stuff like that makes me crazy... I don't understand why some people have such a huge issue with having to wear a mask. In my mind I see it like the old policy of "No shirt, no shoes, no service", now it's got the added bit about the mask... "No shirt, no shoes, no mask, no service".

Police are trained for this. You don't treat a suspect as armed unless you have reason to believe he is armed. You're whatif argument is weak. This is a stupid comment. This is all that this comment deserves. Philando Castlle couldn't be reached for comment. George Floyd couldn't be reached for comment. No. You didn't prove your point. Your "more white people get shot by police than black people" argument is flawed as was pointed out... "what if he had a fuckong BAZOOKA under the drivers seat" defense is bunk. Much of your arguments and defense of killing of unarmed Black men are exactly from the white nationalist playroom... I'm not saying you are a white nationalist... but if people keep pointing that out to you, and it doesn't encourage you to use different reasoning... well shoot, I don't know what to say. Why are you always on that side of the debate?

It just astounds me how OK some people are with authoritarianism.

The first night of the GOP Convention was filled with revisionist history and alternative reality, particularly on coronavirus. It's all aimed at rallying Trump's base and calling wavering Republicans home with ominous warnings about the Democratic agenda. Our story from @NewDay Jeff ZelenyThe RNC claiming Donald Trump has brilliantly handled COVID-19 is like claiming there were just the right number of life boats on the Titanic. - James KosurAll I kept hearing, speech after speech, was how bad, how disgusting, how terrifying America is. The America that Donald Trump is responsible for during the last four years. The one where he had the house and Senate majority during first two years......Danilo PaolucciThey decided to call it the Republican National Convention because Fringe Festival was already taken. - Cam ColeAmazing match-day highlights from the (virtual) Republican convention. Key theme: everything is everyone else’s fault. Peter FrancopanWhile Trump promised live appearances after railing against the Democrats, only 3 of Monday evening’s speeches were live. 25 minutes and 30 seconds of the 2 hours 24 minutes was live meaning under 18% . Kevin Bohn

Trump doesn't give a damn about anyone but himself, only thinks about an economy that he had very little to do with, imagine Winnipeg and the surrounding area gone, that's how many people have died from Covid 19 in a little more than a half a year

What valid points did you make besides throwing around some what ifs and make excuses for an incompetent police officer by deflecting from his actions/inaction and blaming the subject? I'd sincerely like to know. Typically, the onus is on the person who's been trained to manage and deescalate high stress, intense, constantly evolving situations, not the person with a gun pointed in his face and then at his back with seemingly no justification whatsoever. That's why LEOs have the authority they have: they're supposed to be held to a higher standard because of their role in upholding the law and maintaining societal and civil order. Any LEO cognizant of and capable in his training within the framework of the law should know better than to open fire on someone with their back turned, especially when he had ample opportunity to neutralize that subject well before the shooting occurred, and especially when he's got backup with him. The threat assessment in that situation is low and puts him at an immediate advantage to neutralize the subject without lethal force. Instead, he just followed the subject at close range for several seconds and let him continue moving to his vehicle. That's either poor training or a complete disregard for his training - and either appears to be a seriously glaring problem with law enforcement in the US. You say the subject is foolish for not complying with orders and you're not necessarily wrong. But isn't it just as foolish, if not more so, the police officer allowed the situation to escalate needlessly by following him at arm's length with his firearm drawn and doing ostensibly nothing else until opening fire? If the LEO does his job properly and employs a more appropriate intervention method when the subject began to walk away, the likelihood both men go home at the end of the day is very high, and without major incident. Instead, we've got one in the hospital and the other on administrative leave as an investigation is launched into why this happened. His inaction during the altercation is what led to the final outcome and that's a near perfect example of excessive use of force, inextricably changing two lives (at least) in the process. I get what you're saying about looking at it from multiple angles but it isn't reasonable to ask a member of the public to hold himself accountable for his actions while not doing the same for the person who's been tasked with protecting those very members of the public. Unfortunately, it's events like these that have so many alienated or outright afraid of law enforcement, particularly in marginalized populations. Can you really blame when this **** happens with the frequency it does?

Believe him if you want or don't it's up to you

Just another boot licker trying to keep Trump in power by destroying the USPS

There are 2 sides of a fence - right and wrong. @Brandon you are on the wrong side of de-fence.

That's a risk the officer has to take. Also why they need to de-escalate situations better. The cowboy attitude of shoot em in case they shoot at you is why defund the police is a movement right now. And why shoot the poor guy that many times? If it's about your safety you surely don't need that many shots from the range to stop the suspect. No that is a textbook abuse of authority from a police officer. 100% in the wrong on a lotnof different levels

Honestly I think that one day I'd like to tell my kids that my name is on the pedestal that the Grey Cup sits on. And then show them my name at investors group field. And then tell them that our family supports the Blue Bombers and the CFL. It has been a big part of my life and I hope it will be for them too.

👁‍🗨 More and more, they are abandoning ship, or did I spell that wrong... Miles Taylor, other former and current admin officials form anti-Trump groupAt least two senior officials currently serving in the Trump administration are joining the group, “anonymously, at least at the outset,” Taylor said.https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/miles-taylor-other-former-current-admin-officials-form-anti-trump-n1237986

Ugh.

Why would anybody hire that clown?

*checks to see if OP talking about USA* Oh... you should... you really be.

Kids a little green though

Sweet Carolina’s Nikki Haley... I took a break when she uttered “ America is not a racist country”. And she said it with a straight face.

Well based on yesterdays numbers. USA is 339 a day, Canada 10 so the USA would hit their number first and I'm not taking stupidity into account.

Historic night. First official cult to be given major airtime, by American networks

Easier to just try to find something that they said that wasn't a lie. It would a really short article, that's for sure.

Well if you want to stop Democrats voting by mail you have to take action

Hannity sure has his fingers everywhere

Postmaster General was lying thru his teeth today, if they can prove it he will go down hard.

No, I stand by the fact that you cannot shoot an unarmed person in the back, in a car, when there are 3 kids in the car. Don’t forget, that was shoot to kill.

But Mr. Kellyanne Conway has left I believe.

I assume this involves ultraviolet light, and a special suppository..

I don't recall Glenn having a very good game 😛 but the other guys made a valiant effort for sure. What a painful way to start your fandom but we're glad to have you on board

I came to Canada in 2006. Dont know anything about football or CFL. Basketball is the main sports back in my native country. But I like sports since I was a kid. I remember watched a Steelers game on my uncle’s cable when I was young. Probably that was mid-80’s. Then in 2007 when we got our own house, one late afternoon I was looking for a sports show on TV to watch and saw this game WPG vs SSK. It was the Grey Cup game. It was a good game early on and Stegall, Roberts and Glenn all stood out for me. Unfortunately they lost the game. But been a Bombers fan ever since.

Just speaking of Bombers memories, the Bombers Alumni FB account re-shared this fun Ed Tait piece about some memorable moments, including "Troy Kopp's 15 Minutes Of Fame" (it's his birthday today...) https://www.cfl.ca/2020/04/07/look-back-memorable-bombers-games/

First bomber memory: my dad attends the 1982 Western Final. Bombers had Moon and company on the ropes, but Kennerd blew the game. Remember vividly my dad being angry about that when he comes home the following week, giving a variation of the modern "you had one job" speech. Second bomber memory: September 24th 1983. My first live game. A huge week in Bomber history, Dieter Brock has just been traded. Starter Nickie Hall gets hurt, Clements comes on in relief with like two days of practice and he looks pretty rough, but Willard Reaves ran wild and we pave the Riders 50-19. I remember wanting the Roughriders to score because I want to see the Flame more. (lol, just like @TrueBlue4ever) I had not figured things out yet, I was only eleven. The roar of the crowd was amazing. I'd never seen 25,000 people in one place before; I grew up in the deep deep sticks and Winnipeg was the big city to me. Came away a Bomber fan for life. Third bomber memory: October 1984. Bombers are cruising. I see them beat the Eskimos 30-11 and then somehow I get to go to practice the next week without paying or anything! I sat in the stands and watched the practice near a couple of teenage girls who were really really into Trevor Kennerd (?). I watch them practice a fake field goal with Cameron passing the ball. (They ran that play in BC the next week, it was a shitshow) After practice I get autographs from Clements (who seems grumpy and irritated, but my dad explained that he was working and probably had other things on his mind) and Reaves, who is cheerful and who tells me he's gonna get his 1800 in BC next week. Those autographs were in a cheap little steno notebook, I've laminated them and they are on my wall now and they were in my jacket pocket at the 2011 Grey Cup. Didn't help though. Later, David Shaw notices me hanging around and gets me to hold the locker room emergency exit door open for him so he can run to his car or something.

So here is mine. I was vaguely aware of the Bombers as we entered the 1980's (in fact, Ray Jauch once came to my house for some unknown reason and I only sort of who him as the Bomber head coach but knew enough to be in awe of a big time sports figure as a young impressionable lad of 9, even if I had no clue about the team). My school was even asked to participate in the team's 50th anniversary celebration by running out on the field to make a giant number "50" in formation. I declined to join in, possibly the first, last and only time I would snub the Big Blue. I did later make up for it, as I will relay in this memory. So on to 1981, where the memories take shape. First, I remember being at my cottage with no electricity, no TV, propane heating, and only a battery powered AM/.FM radio. We were at a friend's cabion and all the younger kids were playing a game of charades, while my dad was glued to the radio listening to Bob Irving, Ken Ploen and Cactus Jack Wells call the Bomber game. I was curious about what the supposed big deal was and he said the Bombers were beating the Alouettes, who had just stocked up on a bunch of big time NFL talent and were looking to take over the league. The biggest name of all was Vince Farragamo, fresh off his Super Bowl appearance. As the night wore on, I saw my dad getting more and more excited and pleased, and kept getting score updates (32-2 at the half, over 40 now, over 50 now). I could tell this was something monumental, so he explained what it meant to take down the big dog and for this community owned team to rout the "let's buy a championship" Nelson Skalbania run Als. The next day, the Free Press ran a picture of Vince on the turf after another sack looking up at the refs, and his face was the epitome of "the agony of defeat" in a way that the ski jumper wipeout will never quite capture,. I have looked high and low to find that pic and cannot find it on the internet, but it is burned in my brain. I also remember my dad seeing that photo and saying "Boy, if that picture doesn't say it all. THAT is what a beaten man looks like. You can literally see him wondering what he got himself into coming up here". So that radio memory is my first inkling, and was followed by my first TV memory of Dieter Brock completing 41 of 47 passes in Ottawa, and then listening to the season finale against Calgary where Eugene Goodlow caught a then-record 15 passes to become the first receiver ever to hit 100 receptions in a year. My school then decided to participate once again in the pre-game ceremony for the West semi-final, this time singing the anthem. Knowing now a good thing when I saw it, I happily jumped on board. (Side note, I got a second anthem singing gig a few years later, but in much warmer weather). And my dad thought it would be fun to not just go to sing, but watch the game, so my first Bomber live attended game ever was the 1981 West Semi-Final vs. BC. Bombers heavily favoured. These were the days before wind chill was invented, and my recall may be skewed, but in my school uniform with dress shoes and not wearing the proper snowsuit/snow boots combo the rest of the game, I am forever convinced that it was minus 18 without wind chill and probably minus 30 or worse with. And the Bombers just sucked that day. Brock could not finish a drive, Trevor Kennard missed 3 of 4 field goals or something like that, including a couple of chip shots from inside 25 yards, and they lost 15-11. I was cold, I was miserable, I was frustrated...….I was hooked. And next year my dad bought us season tickets, and we had them every year until he died in 2017, and I took them over and have them to this day, where I now take my family every chance I get. And lots of joy, heartache, but zero regret and a lifetime of great memories since then.

I've told this before but my mother is a Rider fan. I assume I'm adopted. She grew up in Saskatchewan, so I suppose it's not really her fault. Despite her poor character, she took me to my first football game on September 22nd, 1985 at Winnipeg Stadium to see the eight time and defending Grey Cup Champion, Winnipeg Blue Bomber face her two time Grey Cup Champion Saskatchewan Roughriders. We sat in the South East corner. Close to the field. The Bombers proceeded to pound the Riders 49-3. What a game. I don't remember much from the game except that the Bombers kept scoring and scoring and scoring. I also have a memory of Sandy "The Flame" Monteith being there and sitting close to us. We sat among a lot of Rider fans. Although this isn't my first Bomber memory, it was my first live game. Not a bad way to cement my fandom.

There are two sides to this argument. The people that understand why CITI took this action and people who should think before they post on social media. Im surprised by how many I am acquainted with who simply dont get it (either from a business perspective or a humanity one). Its a good reminder that freedom of expression is not freedom from consequence.