Goalie Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) Does lirim punt? I didn't think so. Leggs does so either way... he's here. If leggs struggles bring in lirim to kick fgs and leggs to punt But I'm not really sure lirim is an upgrade on leggs all things considered I don't think there's a kicker available who I'd feel fully comfortable with regardless. You know medock even missed a FG from time to time and once in the cup final. What this discussion tells me Is we need our O to score more TDs and Collaros needs to protect the ball better... quite a few fumbles the last few games... Edited August 24, 2022 by Goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Zanetti Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Goalie said: Does lirim punt? I didn't think so. Leggs does so either way... he's here. If leggs struggles bring in lirim to kick fgs and leggs to punt But I'm not really sure lirim is an upgrade on leggs all things considered I don't think there's a kicker available who I'd feel fully comfortable with regardless. You know medock even missed a FG from time to time and once in the cup final. What this discussion tells me Is we need our O to score more TDs. Yes Hajrullahu punts. He did every season that he was in the CFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said: Yes Hajrullahu punts. He did every season that he was in the CFL. Better than Legghio? cuz dudes doing all 3 quite well and has only missed 4 kicks all season We ran lirim out of town once. In 5 years are we gonna wanna bring leggs back too? Does he have to bounce around a bunch and fail at nfl chances first? I'd be interested in lirim tho if he sins 2 years 1 year? Why bother, cuz then next season it's the same? Maybe try developing our own guy? 4 misses Edited August 24, 2022 by Goalie GCJenks and Bigblue204 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Zanetti Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Goalie said: Better than Legghio cuz dudes doing all 3 quite well and has only missed 4 kicks all season Clearly Hajrullahu is the better kicker, i dont think that can be debated. He's proven over many years in the CFL and has been on numerous teams in the NFL. No one is saying Liegghio is trash and needs to be cut. The people who would like Walters to kick the tires on Hajrullahu are the people who dont want our season to end on a missed 36 yard field goal. Something Liegghio hasnt proven he can successfully convert when the chips are down and the pressure is on. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said: Clearly Hajrullahu is the better kicker, i dont think that can be debated. Wrong. Bubba Zanetti, Jesse and TBURGESS 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Zanetti Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Goalie said: Better than Legghio? cuz dudes doing all 3 quite well and has only missed 4 kicks all season We ran lirim out of town once. In 5 years are we gonna wanna bring leggs back too? Does he have to bounce around a bunch and fail at nfl chances first? I'd be interested in lirim tho if he sins 2 years 1 year? Why bother, cuz then next season it's the same? Maybe try developing our own guy? 4 misses Three-peat is why Walters would bother. Next season Liegghio will have another year under his belt and keeps developing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 22 minutes ago, Goalie said: Does lirim punt? I didn't think so. Leggs does so either way... he's here. If leggs struggles bring in lirim to kick fgs and leggs to punt But I'm not really sure lirim is an upgrade on leggs all things considered I don't think there's a kicker available who I'd feel fully comfortable with regardless. You know medock even missed a FG from time to time and once in the cup final. What this discussion tells me Is we need our O to score more TDs and Collaros needs to protect the ball better... quite a few fumbles the last few games... Yeah if the O scores 3 TD's a game instead of 2 Legghio is just a punt and kickoff guy. Goalie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Zanetti Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Noeller said: Wrong. Lol, how can you say with a straight face that Liegghio is currently a better kicker than Hajrullahu. I mean, common. My glasses are blue too but thats craziness. M.Silverback, Jesse and CodyT 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said: Clearly Hajrullahu is the better kicker, i dont think that can be debated. He's proven over many years in the CFL and has been on numerous teams in the NFL. No one is saying Liegghio is trash and needs to be cut. The people who would like Walters to kick the tires on Hajrullahu are the people who dont want our season to end on a missed 36 yard field goal. Something Liegghio hasnt proven he can successfully convert when the chips are down and the pressure is on. except of course...Leggs has hit games winners this year and last yr. Hajrullahu has also missed kicks during his career. We're really getting into a "kickers need to be perfect to be acceptable" area. And that's just never going to be the case. Leggs is young. He's not going anywhere. People really need to just get over it. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Zanetti Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: except of course...Leggs has hit games winners this year and last yr. Hajrullahu has also missed kicks during his career. We're really getting into a "kickers need to be perfect to be acceptable" area. And that's just never going to be the case. Leggs is young. He's not going anywhere. People really need to just get over it. They dont need to be perfect but they need to be damn near perfect inside 40 yards. Missing two in the same game in pressure situations is a red flag. No one is saying Liegghio needs to go. Some people just want insurance bought in. Hell, its something Walters already did last year. Edited August 24, 2022 by Bubba Zanetti Blue and Gold87, CodyT, Noeller and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: except of course...Leggs has hit games winners this year and last yr. Hajrullahu has also missed kicks during his career. We're really getting into a "kickers need to be perfect to be acceptable" area. And that's just never going to be the case. Leggs is young. He's not going anywhere. People really need to just get over it. I mean if you're range is really only 40-45 in you better damn well hit 90% or better. Liegghio's worst 10 yard segment is 30-39 and if he wants to continue kicking balls for a living he needs to fix that. The Bombers are patient to a point but missing two kicks in a game again like that will relegate him to punting again. CodyT and Jesse 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said: Lol, how can you say with a straight face that Liegghio is currently a better kicker than Hajrullahu. I mean, common. My glasses are blue too but thats craziness. I didn't. But you're wrong that it can't be debated. And also, what has Arugala done that makes you think he's great? Aside from getting cut in the NFL over and over again. Edited August 24, 2022 by Noeller TrueBlue4ever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Zanetti Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Noeller said: I didn't. But you're wrong that it can't be debated. And also, what has Arugala done that makes you think he's great? Aside from getting cut in the NFL over and over again. Consistency obviously and the ability to kick under pressure having "been there, done that" in virtually every situation, including kicking in the most elite league in the world. Wanna-B-Fanboy and TBURGESS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 When was the last time he did anything consistently other than get cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Noeller said: When was the last time he did anything consistently other than get cut? 2019 HAM 18 47 55 85.5 56 26 28 167 2019...was 47 of 55 with longest of 56...made 26 of 28 converts....also averaged 43.1 yards on 106 punts....his last actual full season of play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 43 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: except of course...Leggs has hit games winners this year and last yr. Hajrullahu has also missed kicks during his career. We're really getting into a "kickers need to be perfect to be acceptable" area. And that's just never going to be the case. Leggs is young. He's not going anywhere. People really need to just get over it. I don't think we are demanding perfection. I think it was how bad that kick was and the failed attempt at a redemption kick. He's mentally weak. Legg's needs seasoning still- but if we have a game-winning kick in Grey Cup with 6 seconds left on the clock to either win or lose- I would want Liram over Leggs kicking that ball. Blue and Gold87, CodyT and TBURGESS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 55 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: We're really getting into a "kickers need to be perfect to be acceptable" area. And that's just never going to be the case. Leggs is young. He's not going anywhere. People really need to just get over it. Following medlock is a tough gig. Noeller, GCJenks, Piggy 1 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 24 minutes ago, Noeller said: When was the last time he did anything consistently other than get cut? Could say the same for Streveler...do you hate him too? CodyT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 27 minutes ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said: I don't think we are demanding perfection. I think it was how bad that kick was and the failed attempt at a redemption kick. He's mentally weak. Legg's needs seasoning still- but if we have a game-winning kick in Grey Cup with 6 seconds left on the clock to either win or lose- I would want Liram over Leggs kicking that ball. well you're not going to get what you want. 1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said: I mean if you're range is really only 40-45 in you better damn well hit 90% or better. Liegghio's worst 10 yard segment is 30-39 and if he wants to continue kicking balls for a living he needs to fix that. The Bombers are patient to a point but missing two kicks in a game again like that will relegate him to punting again. which...he has been of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: well you're not going to get what you want. which...he has been of course. At 82% this year, 83% on PAT's. Not good enough. Adequate, but not to the point where you stop scouting kickers. Bubba Zanetti 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: well you're not going to get what you want. I understand that this is not a santa's wish list forum... I was just stating what I would... ah, forget it- not going to to get sucked in. 7 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said: which...he has been of course. Until he didn't. Those misses also cost us a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 yup....the kick cost us one win....if it happens again yup...concerned....3 times....then yes u have to address it That being said...that game should never have came down to that...kick to win...then kick to tie...the whole team layed an egg that game, and I attribute to a culmination of the season to date...wash it away...move on....and Like Bailey said....win as a team...lose as a team...that moment is not gonna define the season, and if it does...well then this team doesn't deserve any future success as it would basically cement them as a weak bunch...a team of Faj's...which we are not led by a Schmuck like Diclesson or Lapo...which again...thank god we are not Bigblue204, Piggy 1, Sard and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 Talking all day about kickers Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Geebrr said: Talking all day about kickers Game day tomorrow. Although the excitement will wane when Legs is trotted out for a FG and we get "toldyasos" from whichever crowd feels they were proven right. TBURGESS, Mark F and Geebrr 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted August 24, 2022 Report Share Posted August 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jesse said: Game day tomorrow. Although the excitement will wane when Legs is trotted out for a FG and we get "toldyasos" from whichever crowd feels they were proven right. I'm absolutely terrified of him having a bad day tomorrow.... rebusrankin and Sard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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