Booch Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 i agree....but those would be options Floyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Another destination for the 'tour man' would be T.O......BUT didn't Popp cut him when he was in Mont.....Can't see that as being a cozy arrangement...B.C. signed his brother BUT they have Solo who they just re-upped for a couple of years...can't see that one.....Redblacks....maybe....We would have to be a pretty good destination IF Muamba and his agent can get over what ever it is they didn't /don't like about us...Seems to me money is this guys motivator and the more the merrier for these two....I think they're on their way of wearing out their welcome anywhere in the CFL...if they haven't already....Walters says he'll still kick the tires but maybe Henoc and his agent have a fantasy figure in mind that nobody cares to entertain??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engelwood Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 I am confident that the bombers still have the money but it was more public posturing for the negotiations that are about to take place. If we had money for the possibility of bringing Westerman back. We should still have a large portion of that avaialbe to sign Henoc if interested. Why show your hand by saying we have the SMS space for a contract like his because that takes any ability to negotiate out of your hands. Bigblue204, Floyd, Blueandgold and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, Stickem said: Another destination for the 'tour man' would be T.O......BUT didn't Popp cut him when he was in Mont.....Can't see that as being a cozy arrangement...B.C. signed his brother BUT they have Solo who they just re-upped for a couple of years...can't see that one.....Redblacks....maybe....We would have to be a pretty good destination IF Muamba and his agent can get over what ever it is they didn't /don't like about us...Seems to me money is this guys motivator and the more the merrier for these two....I think they're on their way of wearing out their welcome anywhere in the CFL...if they haven't already....Walters says he'll still kick the tires but maybe Henoc and his agent have a fantasy figure in mind that nobody cares to entertain??? I think money might be getting less of a motivator now that he's 28 and hasn't won anything or been an all-star... NFL dream is dead 2 years at $180-200k - I'd offer that no problem - I think you get a slight discount this year because he's already been paid $35k ha At worst, you cut Dressler... at best, you cut Fogg for the $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold_Palmer Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 We're certainly not cutting Dressler, and I'd be surprised if we cut Fogg or Wild. Only because we just signed them. That's bad business and I don't think the Blue Bombers organization operates in that way. I think we have the space for him if not maybe someone minor is a cap casualty. Fatty Liver, Fred C Dobbs and Blueandgold 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) To be honest, ill trade Neufeld for whatever hes worth. And go INT on LG - maybe Foketi is ready. Although Flanders will be a good candidate, the combo of Demski and LaFrance makes him expendable. Edited February 15, 2018 by M.O.A.B. Floyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueandgold Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said: We're certainly not cutting Dressler, and I'd be surprised if we cut Fogg or Wild. Only because we just signed them. That's bad business and I don't think the Blue Bombers organization operates in that way. I think we have the space for him if not maybe someone minor is a cap casualty. Agreed. The problem is, if we do need to create salary cap space I can't think of many other potential causalities. Going back to an import at guard and cutting Neufeld could be a solution, but the Bombers seem to really like Patty. I'm not sure who else could be on the chopping block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) Medlock says: “Dont look at me guys” Edited February 15, 2018 by M.O.A.B. Fatty Liver, SPuDS and JCon 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 28 minutes ago, Stickem said: Walters says he'll still kick the tires I'm already tired of the Henoc tour. and it hasn't even started. Noeller, bustamente, SPuDS and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mark F said: I'm already tired of the Henoc tour. and it hasn't even started. All aboard! Mark F, Stickem and johnzo 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Roll up, roll up for the Mystery Tour..... Mark F, Noeller and Fred C Dobbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said: We're certainly not cutting Dressler, and I'd be surprised if we cut Fogg or Wild. Only because we just signed them. That's bad business and I don't think the Blue Bombers organization operates in that way. I think we have the space for him if not maybe someone minor is a cap casualty. I'm not campaigning for it... just saying that if $$ are needed, that's what you have to do. If it was me, I'd cut Neufeld - but they won't do that. Firekid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 19 minutes ago, Mark F said: I'm already tired of the Henoc tour. and it hasn't even started. We should just sign him and end the madness. M.O.A.B. and Mark F 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 I'm still amazed Muamba's using the same shitty agent, Hardaway, a guy who negotiated with Jones a bonus due immediately after free agency opened up. Not sure who's the dumber one there. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, blue_gold_84 said: I'm still amazed Muamba's using the same shitty agent, Hardaway, a guy who negotiated with Jones a bonus due immediately after free agency opened up. Not sure who's the dumber one there. That was the second bonus so I imagine they thought they would be safe....wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Checked back with RiderFans........let us move in another direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueingreenland Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 The problem with Henoc is that by the time his agent says they are ready to talk $, the other starting MLB's might be off the table. If you are Walters do you want to take that risk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Neufeld would never be cut...traded but not cut. Also Foketti is more than ready and could start on any team in the CFL...Could have last year actually...how we have been able to keep him here this long is baffling..He must really like it and has to be a tip of the hat to the culture/locker room here And truthfully...we don't really have to cut any of the salary until the season starts...so sign him...let all the pieces battle it out for spots in TC...then decide what and where you can slash and either trade...offer a pr spot at a cap friendly amount....and if all else fails then release Stickem, Wanna-B-Fanboy, Fred C Dobbs and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 2 hours ago, blueingreenland said: The problem with Henoc is that by the time his agent says they are ready to talk $, the other starting MLB's might be off the table. If you are Walters do you want to take that risk? The simplest method, although not necessarily the best, is to take your top two or three prospects for MLB and make each your best offer to each with the understanding that the first one to accept gets the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlue Posted February 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Well we are back to "will Walters go all out for a MLB" .... Bear Woods or Enoch the Persecuted I don't care .... just get 'er done ..... its the final piece solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, blueingreenland said: The problem with Henoc is that by the time his agent says they are ready to talk $, the other starting MLB's might be off the table. If you are Walters do you want to take that risk? Considering it seems we were never likely to sign the other MLB's you are referring to, there is no risk. I could see the Bombers signing one of those guys if they presented a value opportunity, but it sounds like Woods is pricing himself at the high end of the market, so he is out. As for Reed and the rest, these guys are more likely to become value opportunities the longer they sit at home without a contract. That's when the discussion shifts from "I'd like to cash in" to "I'd better make sure I have a job". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Floyd said: I think money might be getting less of a motivator now that he's 28 and hasn't won anything or been an all-star... NFL dream is dead 2 years at $180-200k - I'd offer that no problem - I think you get a slight discount this year because he's already been paid $35k ha At worst, you cut Dressler... at best, you cut Fogg for the $$ Is it? Sometimes it takes a while for reality to sink in for some. Maybe his agent has convinced him to see if there are still any takers down south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Jacquie said: Is it? Sometimes it takes a while for reality to sink in for some. Maybe his agent has convinced him to see if there are still any takers down south. Oh that could happen... I just mean the dream is dead - at age 29 after already getting a shot - its over no matter what anyone believes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 Maybe Henoc chills at home and waits for a team to run into national injury trouble, then signs at a premium for a partial season? Keeps his mileage low and his salary high? (and then he gets cut again the next year because he's overpaid) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted February 15, 2018 Report Share Posted February 15, 2018 The only team over paying these days is Montreal... so if they don't open up the purse then Henoc is out of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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