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Lots of interesting stuff here: https://www.bluebombers.com/2023/10/31/statistical-year-in-review/ Big one that jumped out to me 100/955 Winnipeg was penalized 100 times in the regular season for 955 yards, fewest in the CFL. And here’s the number that just reinforces how disciplined this team is – over the last five seasons, 2017-23, the Blue Bombers have been the least penalized team in the league EVERY SINGLE SEASON.

Osh, Brady O and Yoshi make it through in all possible categories!

Bighill makes dirty hit every single play, and our OL, ALL 5 OF THEM, are holding on every play. We should have 992 penalties for 8000 yards in penalties this season but the fix is in because Ambrosie lived in Winnipeg a long time ago. Signed, Riderfans

Speaks to coaching. For all his perceived flaws, O'Shea has consistently fielded a disciplined and mindful team - they don't hurt themselves with stupid, selfish penalties.

RIP the last two pages of this discussion, hopefully.

Brady should be MOP and MOC but likely just gets MOC because the media is full of idiots. Dinwiddie, off topic but does anybody else think he does not look ok healthwise when watching on tv?

It's funny how the league always decides to favour the teams that are already good...

yup....not to say it is so...but the red nose, and it being somewhat enlarged makes one think he could have an issue....and the fact he looks like he has aged immensely over the past 3 yrs...hope all is ok

Throughout the Labour Day Classic, the guy behind me kept calling, "offiside" on every play. "Bombers are offside again!" I said, Dickie can challenge, you know? Also, the guy was upset when the ref placed the (Rider) ball on the Bomber 1 yard line. "He was closer than that. They ripped him off half a yard!"

It just needed to be pointed out for posterity.

As he should be.

Talk about roster management all you want but this is really where O’Shea shines. This is an incredible achievement, and really this is the difference in sone of those tight games, staying disciplined, and not taking bad penalties. I’ve seen very few stupid, and retaliation penalties on the Blue Bombers since Mike O’Shea has been head coach.

Other way around?

The bolded names in original message...That's whom I figure are gonna get the nod BO...Based on season...consistency and historical numbers...and fact he is Canadian and has bettered many an imports numbers I selected Betts over Pickett, as I think the slobbering all yr over one trick Betts and he's Canadian is gonna put him over...But that being said I would rather have Pickett on my squad Hardick....cause he flat out deserves it, and if not for Big Stan on his team may have won one already...Plus...best overall offence Leake....nuff said and no need to justify Stiggerz....Same as Leake Dinwiddie only cause he got more wins...Had to deal with minimal injuries....easier sched...and the luxury of multiple games over crap teams....Osh I think coached better roster flaws and all lol

I don't disagree with you... Those short trips, especially the Hamilton games, are not plane rides which is a huge advantage. Average distance per trip falls out like this: Toronto: 1174 Hamilton: 1233 Winnipeg: 1288 Saskatchewan: 1438 Ottawa: 1440 Edmonton: 1463 Montreal: 1498 Calgary: 1651 BC: 1978 And yes, I did factor in TD Atlantic this time.

many been sitting at home all yr looking at IG West during games

man...totally forgot Ellingson was even here

Despite the Farhan stupidity,

And it might speak to why we passed on SOME of those players we've brought in - they didn't mesh with the locker room .. they were undisciplined or selfish or just not "getting it".

This. You can't take their record away from them though. They won games and beat the teams they were scheduled to face. It doesn't matter the how or why of it but you also can't turn a blind eye to how easy they had it right out of the gate.

but according to RFans...its a conspiracy...and refs favour us hahaha Could never be a case of reputation preceding you tho.....much like their undisciplined bottom of the league mark lot of that goes to vets in locker room setting the cuture and how to go about things on and off field more than anything....But also Walters and Osh bringing in, and keeping the character guys too

And a weirdo and not in a good way. Being an Argo looks good on him.

yup....the smart move was to bring a guy in (ambles) with experience, and bring a guy back Blackmon....with limited experience but knows the CFL game now. 2 weeks before to get fully acclimated to team/system, just in case, as opposed to scrambling the week of, and having to plug in a virtually unprepared guy...

ODDS TO WIN 110TH GREY CUP Team Projection Winnipeg Blue Bombers 71.03% Toronto Argonauts 20.34% Montreal Alouettes 5.08% Calgary Stampeders 1.33% BC Lions 1.24% Hamilton Tiger-Cats 0.98% Lots of talk about the Argos in this thread, here's the latest CFL.ca simulation, in case some people need reminding, we're pretty good too lol.

O'shea mentioned on the Coach's Show that the players will be back at work on Thursday. They wont be the practice field everyday this weekend but will still be working out and prepping for the Western Final.

Imagine thinking AJ Ouelette is better than Brady Oliveira.

Here is a list or every rusher who has gone over 1,500 yards in a season (tracked since 1954): 2065 - Mike Pringle, Mtl (1998) 1972 - Mike Pringle, Bal (1994) 1896 - Willie Burden, Cgy (1975) 1813 - Jon Cornish, Cgy (2013) 1794 - Earl Lunsford, Cgy (1961) 1791 - Mike Pringle, Bal (1995) 1778 - Mike Pringle, Mtl (2000) 1775 - Mike Pringle, Mtl (1997) 1769 - Robert Mimbs, Wpg (1991) 1768 - George Reed, Ssk (1965) 1733 - Willard Reaves, Wpg (1984) 1722 - Johnny Bright, Edm (1958) 1679 - Johnny Bright, Edm (1957) 1678 - David Green, Mtl (1979) 1656 - Mike Pringle, Mtl (1999) 1629 - Lovell Coleman, Cgy (1964) 1628 - Troy Davis, Ham (2004) 1624 - Charles Roberts, Wpg (2005) 1609 - Charles Roberts, Wpg (2006) 1581 - Jimmie Edwards, Ham (1977) 1554 - Charles Roberts, Wpg (2003) 1541 - Joffrey Reynolds, Cgy (2006) 1534 - Brady Oliveira, Wpg (2023) 1527 - Mack Herron, Wpg (1972) 1522 - Charles Roberts, Wpg (2004) 1520 - George Dixon, Mtl (1962) 1510 - Joe Smith, BC (2007) 1504 - Joffrey Reynolds, Cgy (2009) 1503 - Reggie Taylor, Edm (1989) Oliveira had the 23rd highest total in CFL history. And here is the list of players over 2000 yards from scrimmage in a single season since 1954: 2414 - Mike Pringle, Bal (1994) 2414 - Mike Pringle, Mtl (1998) 2207 - Robert Mimbs, Wpg (1991) 2157 - Jon Cornish, Cgy (2013) 2140 - Willard Reaves, Wpg (1984) 2127 - Willie Burden, Cgy (1975) 2111 - Mike Pringle, Mtl (2000) 2102 - Charles Roberts, Wpg (2003) 2098 - Charles Roberts, Wpg (2005) 2088 - Mike Pringle, Mtl (1997) 2071 - Ed Buchanan, Ssk (1964) 2039 - Hal Patterson, Mtl (1956) 2034 - Tim McCray, Ssk (1989) 2020 - Charles Roberts, Wpg (2006) 2019 - Brandon Whitaker, Mtl (2011) 2018 - Terry Greer, Tor (1983) 2016 - Brady Oliveira, Wpg (2023) Oliveira had the 17th highest total in CFL history.

MOS up for coach of the year

2nd in the East with CoFaj. That has to be worth some sort of participation trophy.

That's where the benefits of a former player not too removed from playing really helps...he can get a good gauge thru his vets that they put in place as to when they need some 'coaching"

If they had a good qb they might be a good team.

It's the other way around.

"******* refs let them get away with everything"

My own napkin math fails my point on this one considering how often the argos played the technically above .500 Als. But really, does Cody Fajardo count?

yup yu can only beat who you face....that being said...BC 2x..Wpg 2x...Ham and Ott not 4 times....would be a totally different result, and having to take an actual road trip too would also factor in...their travel this yr for distance was a complete joke too....

hit on some solid points...awards, and how it should be changed, and who/how many should vote....balancing of sched...and how Grey Cup participants from previous year should meet 2x ...solid podcast

Pretty much.

I only listened for about 20 mins... but this seems like a fantastic podcast... might help that Bob was on (unless he's a regular)... and providing full league wide coverage, not just the Ticats was nice.

it's the Osh "honour your teammates" thing..... guys in that room are terrified of ever letting a guy down by taking a stupid penalty. That comes from the very top.

I agree. It was cold but dry. It feels much colder when it's raining and windy.

Fixed that for you.

Completely agree. Kelly did his job and did it well. Nothing more. BO exceeded all expectations. Toronto's average starting field position and number of offensive series is by far the most in the CFL, yet they squandered a lot of those opportunities with a pretty pedestrian red zone efficiency.

Ambles is an insurance policy, and a pretty good one for the price. I don't foresee him hitting the field unless things go from bad to worse in our receiving corps injuries. Nice option to have, should fit our room well also. These are exactly the type of moves a really good GM does near playoff time when depth at some areas is questionable.

I'm not afraid of the Argos, but on the same note I'm not arrogant enough to think that they are a push over and lucky to have a good win loss record. If (when) they meet up in the finals it will be a 50/50 game that will come down to who can make the big plays and who can win the turn over battle. Like F last year we have a kicker and Prukop not tossing a lame duck that game more then likely ends differently. It usually comes down to a few plays.

Argo fans? No such thing, I think @blutois a cfl bot who was activated to drum up an asstroturf "fanbase" for the Argos. 😁

Imagine being an Argo fan. Yikes.

All I want is one more shot at the Argos in the Grey Cup.

Imagine believing that going 16-2 in the east is worth bragging about.

Ambles is probably this year's Norman Roosevelt, brought in to spend the rest of the season on the PR, then released. The Stamps picked him up in Aug. dressed him for 4 games and released him, after he went 15/23 for 193 yds. So whatever ability they thought he had earlier in his career may no longer be relevant.

So Kelly has trully been.....outstanding...hahahaha....or shall we say average?....to good? watch this....Duane Ford at around the 11:45 minute mark makes great sense...and nails the Argo thing on the head