Judd Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Check out @DTonSC's Tweet: Interesting piece of info. 10 pressures allowed by Stanley Bryant with 2 holds definitely classifies as upper tier. But what classifies as a pressure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash00 Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Could easily argue that with more starts Fulton would surpass Bryant on this list, putting Bryant somewhere in the middle/lower tier. Rogers is in a class of his own and that whole Calgary o-line is excellent so Bryant being where he is on the list isn't overly surprising. Bigblue204 and Goalie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 1 minute ago, Nash00 said: Could easily argue that with more starts Fulton would surpass Bryant on this list, putting Bryant somewhere in the middle/lower tier. Rogers is in a class of his own and that whole Calgary o-line is excellent so Bryant being where he is on the list isn't overly surprising. Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point...but this is a stat where less is more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nash00 Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Just now, JuranBoldenRules said: Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point...but this is a stat where less is more. Yes I meant he would move down the list as shown (moving up in terms of overall standing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Just now, JuranBoldenRules said: Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point...but this is a stat where less is more. Think what he's saying is Fulton has started 7 games And allowed 8... Bryant has played all 11 and is at 10. Give Fulton 4 more games and he probably has more than Bryant sp Bryant would be closer to the bottom Bigblue204 and Nash00 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 The season for Bryant could be broken down into pre-Willy and post-Willy. There were a lot of breakdowns in those first 5 games before Bond took over. Tracker and Pete Catan's Ghost 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judd Posted September 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Is a "qb pressure" allowing a sack, causing a throwaway, incompletion? I honestly dont know the criteria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 26 minutes ago, Judd said: Is a "qb pressure" allowing a sack, causing a throwaway, incompletion? I honestly dont know the criteria pass rusher getting into the back field before he qb has gotten rid of the ball. Forcing him to throw a pass run or throw it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Judd said: Is a "qb pressure" allowing a sack, causing a throwaway, incompletion? I honestly dont know the criteria qb pressure is loosely defined as any time a defender makes a little bit of pee come out of the qb from fear. Eternal optimist, Bigblue204, Tracker and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted September 15, 2016 Report Share Posted September 15, 2016 Just now, 17to85 said: qb pressure is loosely defined as any time a defender makes a little bit of pee come out of the qb from fear. And them the coach would yell at the unfortunate quarterback as he came to the sidelines, "Urine trouble!" ddanger, kelownabomberfan, 17to85 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternal optimist Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 3 hours ago, 17to85 said: qb pressure is loosely defined as any time a defender makes a little bit of pee come out of the qb from fear. A sack, on the other hand is defined as when the other common excrement comes out of said QB. ddanger and Tracker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Dragoon Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 I think having Willy as starting pivot was an o-line killer. Sure we traded out Neufeld for Bond on the line, and boy what a difference that has made, but I think a lot of the sudden statistical improvement is on Nichols not feeling "pressure" just from seeing a blitz coming as well as being able to throw a ball knowing he is going to get hit rather than turtle which has brought down the sack totals. He is also more mobile and has a quicker release (although I don't think there is another QB in the league that could not claim the same) and just seems to have better field vision in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 I'd be curious to know how AlexGauthier graded out for the Bombers - that was an excellent OL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 10 hours ago, Mark H. said: I'd be curious to know how AlexGauthier graded out for the Bombers - that was an excellent OL Goodspeed Labatte Picard Donnelly Gauthier.... yeah that whole OL was pretty solid at the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 That was an elite OL... I miss those days... Segal Edwards Armstrong Franklin were pretty good to... At that point it didn't even matter who the 4th import was because the other three were so good it made the 4th guy look good also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 2 hours ago, James said: That was an elite OL... I miss those days... Segal Edwards Armstrong Franklin were pretty good to... At that point it didn't even matter who the 4th import was because the other three were so good it made the 4th guy look good also johnzo, Noeller, yogi and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 3 hours ago, Atomic said: Goodspeed Labatte Picard Donnelly Gauthier.... yeah that whole OL was pretty solid at the time Not that it really matters... but I believe it was Gauthier-Labatte-Picard-Donnelly-Goodspeed... With good ol' Matt Sheridan as the 6th man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, bearpants said: Not that it really matters... but I believe it was Gauthier-Labatte-Picard-Donnelly-Goodspeed... With good ol' Matt Sheridan as the 6th man... Weighing in at a slim and trim 400 pounds bearpants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, bearpants said: Not that it really matters... but I believe it was Gauthier-Labatte-Picard-Donnelly-Goodspeed... With good ol' Matt Sheridan as the 6th man... I believe down the stretch it was Andrew Green who started for Donnelly in 2007 17to85 and bearpants 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Jpan85 said: I believe down the stretch it was Andrew Green who started for Donnelly in 2007 That right guard spot was a revolving door between '06 and '09. Donnelly never could stay healthy. bearpants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Boy Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, Atomic said: That right guard spot was a revolving door between '06 and '09. Donnelly never could stay healthy. Did you guys take notes or can you actually remember that kind of detail. If you can wow! I consider it a good day if I can keep the kid's names straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 19 minutes ago, Jpan85 said: I believe down the stretch it was Andrew Green who started for Donnelly in 2007 yes I forgot about Andrew Green... I think you're right... he was definitely the "unsung hero" of that line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 13 minutes ago, Fan Boy said: Did you guys take notes or can you actually remember that kind of detail. If you can wow! I consider it a good day if I can keep the kid's names straight. I don't have any kids so I remember football players instead... in this case, yes, it's purely memory... but sometimes I'll do a bit of research then post something and try to pass it off as my own knowledge Noeller, Jpan85 and BigBlueFanatic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueandgold Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 24 minutes ago, Atomic said: That right guard spot was a revolving door between '06 and '09. Donnelly never could stay healthy. I honestly don't even remember Donnelly, so he couldn't have played in many games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted September 16, 2016 Report Share Posted September 16, 2016 33 minutes ago, Fan Boy said: Did you guys take notes or can you actually remember that kind of detail. If you can wow! I consider it a good day if I can keep the kid's names straight. Use post-it notes on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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