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Toronto, Hamilton, Montreal, Calgary, Ottawa, and Saskatchewan all signing players in the last couple of days trying to get better, BC brought in a few new bodies last week as well. Winnipeg is all status quo! 3-7 in our last 10 games and hosting the grey cup and zero sense of urgency to try something different when things aren’t working. At this point we’re a threat to not even make the playoffs in any capacity.

Adding some guys to our practice roster would be nice. Frustrating to see Walters sitting on his ass seemingly doing nothing.

Thank God, Strev completed the pass. Could you imagine if he one hopped it?

Osh writes his depth chart in pen before camp even opens. The lack of competition is at a point where it's hurting the team badly now that the superstars are aging fast.

No, it's ok to trash him as a first reaction. There's probably something he deserves it for.

With how crappy the O is, those random deep shots are needed.

No GM worth a damn wants to be saddled with a head coach not of his choosing.

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So explain why guys who were in camp are doing better than the departed Bridges.... that right there blows your entire argument out of the water.... cause those guys outperformed Bridges in camp too. You just refuse to admit that the coaches are fallible. It's OK. You know 2018ish I too was of the opinion that walters was more of an issue that Oshea, but Kyle Walters showed himself to be a proactive gm who could build a damn good roster whereas Oshea maintained his at times bonkers roster building and usage mindset. Given that we've also heard lots of rumors about walters leaving and Oshea being gm, is it a stretch to think oshea has a large say in players brought in these days? I dunno, I just know our roster usage is subpar and because of that issue it's really hard to judge what this team actually does have.

Doesn't look planned but it looks like both the coaches and players recognized what was happening. This video (11:20 mark) shows one Hamilton defender briefly stop near Wheatfall and then keeps going towards the sideline (maybe thinking the other Ticat right behind him will be covering the receiver?). Once both guys are going past him, Wheatfall starts waving to Strevy, who also saw that Wheatfall was wide open. At the 11:30 mark, there's a sideline view showing Osh also trying to get Strevy's attention.

To be fair, it's only a handful of people who don't know how to "change the channel". I get being frustrated. I get being disappointed. I get wanting change. Posting the same stuff in every thread, ad nauseum, gets REALLY REALLY old. If can take anything positive away from that it's that apathy hasn't set in and these fans are still passionate enough about the Bombers to express themselves.

He's only a differemnce maker if he's healthy. He wasn't, Osh knew his knee was badly injured & still played him, Now, he may never recover to be close to what he was on the field. It was a stupid decision in a long line of stupid Osh personnel decisions.

would love that as well...but man we gotta be realistic...as we are now...and obviously no intent to bring anyone in....that's not happening and definitely not too late....what we have...4...5 games left when Maston and Taylor stepped in and turned our season on defence? DT's and ends....bull dozing rb....easiest guys to integrate with minimal practice/time in the CFL....X receiver too

thats a good thing...we need T.O to lose and desperately need to beat Ottawa to keep a few games between us and them as we are likely gonna have to cross over.....and that prob our best route for any success in post season as we aont winning 2 on the road in the west unless both teams ahead of us lose their starting Q.B and maybe some other key piece...and even then, I cant see success attainable Maybe we become the first crosover team to make it in history...into our own barn too....that be a good story after all this crappola

Streveler taking 1st team reps. Rinse and repeat. Hope Vaval can take 2 kicks back to the house so we have a chance of winning. Johnny Furcoat aint getting it done.

And so does logic.

History says Coach goes before GM.

I'd be worried if you get rid of Walters and not O'Shea, the only people who would be interested in the GM position would mean that O'Shea should be the defacto GM (if he doesn't get named that anyways). It seems like a lot of times, a GM gets brought in and he will want to do his hiring, and if you don't also get a new Coach you end up with a weird lame-duck period waiting for the incumbent coach to get fired and replaced.

There is absolutely no excuse for not trying to improve this lot. None.

Osh as GM is a scary thought. What a disaster that would be. We'll be back in the dark 2013-15 era fast... dark times. But now that you said it, it is a considration I never thought would happen. Now, I can be prepared (shiver) if that happens. https://giphy.com/gifs/want-tjwzClJM6fyEw

Actually it was a tire fire and the Ticats coach should have simply called a time-out.

with the off-season signings....and the lack there of too Nobody can admit that Thomas...Kolo...Wilson...T.Jones...were not cemented in as the day 1 starter....regardless what occurred in camp anyone saying otherwise and that if pushed by a newcomer...or rookie that Osh would have made the swap is just full of crap....we all knew...many of us said it....christ a couple were day 1 starters with barely any work in camp

The minds should be saying, "We need to be better" & go with that.

HC relays to scouting team what he wants....and what he likes...they go and "try" to find that Then it's up to HC to assess and build the best lineup with what he was given...and key word....asked for. HC also keeps and cuts the players....not the G.M and he seems to like to keep less then the best guys based on his metrics in what he thinks is the best. He in my opinion values some things way more than he should in some cases and it's not a natter of talent that wins the decision in his mind...it's been quite apparent really He also doesnt really give the backups any real work during the season to get acclimated to the pro game...develop...and or show they just may not have it...and move on and bring new blood in during the season....and then when season gets to the dawg days...he just walks out injured guy after injured guy because our back-ups...or guys we carried on the PR (guys who are there just for that...injury replacement/underperforming guys/development) have zero experience...they have zero belief in them....even tho he says they all #1's and are in building because if they have to step in give us a chance to win......and well...here we are...3 cup losses in a row due to poor roster and poor coaching....under .500....and have arguably the worst depth in the league Fact of matter the G.M hasnt been G.M'ing like he should have been....why...who knows...is Osh given too much say?...who knows...may appear as so...Buddy buddy relationship too isn't ideal....Maybe he doesn't have it in him to get on his H.C.....Or maybe he knows that he not coming back next yr and really doesn't give a hoot....so no urgency?....who knows....But changes need to be made regardless where did we utilize any cap space to strengthen an area?...we spent nothing really on anything new, and where we did grab a possible differene maker...he cant get on the roster as he behind a couple of Osh's Boi's

Other teams are bringing in cuts to push their players already there. Most won't sign for this year but teams have a chance to evaluate & sign them to training camp contracts next year. Except us, so far. Why can't Osh create an atmosphere of competition at practice where only the best have a chance of playing? Push the guys already here even harder. Make the vets worry about their jobs so they practice & play eveen harder. There's a feeling of laissez faire with this team. Do you think Cal Murphy or Ray Jauch would stand pat with this team?

So..... Steady on?

Should the Bombers lose to the RedBlacks, this forum will be unbearable for the week or more following.

SOME OF THESE RESPONSES ARE STRAIGHT FIRE, YO!

This was my only point... There's enough to complain about without becoming total lunatics.

To defend the DB's knowing they've contributed their fair share to our current situation you can't cover forever like an olineman can't hold his block forever.

Agreed with lack of pressure.....no rushed passes...no disruption of the QB....all time to throw...DB's will look bad....just way it is And a couple simple changes...who know's the results but you need to try....because why do you have guys hanging around then?....but continuing to do the same thing...thats been failing...who keeps doing that? And really....can it be any worse???

Sorry Goalie, I disagree with this. The DL has been ineffective this year. The DBs had some weak links and are being corrected. There is no pressure - even nominal from the DL. You cannot win when the QB regularly gets 5 steamboats, every down, every game. But the D has not been as much of an issue as the O. Look at our second half points - and look at our number of turnovers. We need something to change - demote Hogan and give Jackson a chance. Make some changes on both sides of the ball, when able - Jake Thomas, a loyal, hard working guy does not have the stones now - he just doesn't. Vaughters and Willie are no longer every down players - good for 50%. Many of the players we brought in as free agents have not worked out, and we have had a rash of injuries - and our QB play has diminished behind an OL that is no longer effective. You cant fix this in a day...but make a few changes and try it out - why are we still running with Ayers at DL? Why are we still forcing Canadian depth into starting positions - when we have not even given our other Canadian depth an opportunity to see how they do (even at 20% reps a game). We love what the mafia has done here - we want them to succeed - but they can't be stubborn and hold fast to what is NOT working - we just want them to show some sort of flexibility.

Collaros was playing some really good football before he got hurt, considering what he had to work with. Consistently under a ton of pressure but was finding a way.

Yep, just us, it seems. We've done nothing since last year's Grey Cup.

yup....That would just incur another brainwave decision to promote from within like the piss poor OC fiasco.... way less upheaval to the organization....

You always say this....but you dont know that..You just assume Osh is this god at talent evaluation...and he isnt.....and has shown that yr over yr....You say nobody is better, but thats just your opinion too....where's the proof?...cause Dear Leader who has failed us 3 straight yrs hasnt gave them a shot?...You quick to throw all the blame on Walter's yet continue to give Osh a pass.... And again...other than CIS scouting Walter's does zippo with boots on the ground...none.... And in your other post...saying the likes of Woods..Adams and even Pointer who we cut...wouldnt offer us more than Schmeck..Thomas...Korn....then I guess you are "out to lunch"...your words not mine And T.Jones is better than J.Jones?...where's that proof? Before J.Jones got hurt...and T.O flipped ratio he was damn good...actually run stopper...guy who could get home on blitz and get sacks...3 yrs younger....better ST player...faster....better pro day numbers And if a coach realizes he's using sub par talent...yet refuses to ask for an influx....or try a PR guy or guy they hiding on the 1 game...how is that the fault of the G.M? We have a world of problems in several areas...dissconnect....a failing/failed process....stagnation....not the preferred destination anymore...likely from the latter....and the guy basically running the team and the day to day process, makes his roster...and is in charge of coaching....ain't gettin er done....and you have a hard time accepting it I used to praise Osh...when it was warranted....it's not so much now...so praise he won't get now unless he does something to re-earn it so obviously the "coach" see's no need...nobody else can shoulder that....christ he wont even use the guys that been here all yr...some for 2....like he's gonna insert a totally new body Osh as a G.M would be a colossal failure on soooo many levels history shows...in all sports....a Coach will go before a G.M 9 times outta 10 Unless the G.M shows total incompetence on several levels....Walter's hasnt shown that at all

Just to stir the pot and make it more unbearable for some around here, for arguments sake and discussion purposes, if ZC is a no go, Strev gets the nod to start at, let's say he's at 60/70% health because that will put us in a better spot to be successful than TW at 100% health. TW is going to back up CS against the RedBlacks and the only way TW gets into the game is short yardage and if CS gets hurt and can't return. If our offense falters with Strev at the helm and we don't employ TW because CS deserves to be out there because he's earned, he's earned the loyalty for him to work thru adversity plus he wasn't getting the support he needed plus it's been determined TW is not serviceable enough to run our offense and we lose our 4th straight game we are to look away from this not discuss the QB situation because it's just reality it's the best we have it's off limits and focus our energy on (fill in the blank). Yes? Oh and I hope CS lights it up, our oline crushes their dline BO gets 200 yards rushing our receivers have a hay day with their db's, our D plays lights out, our DB's and LB's clamp things down JT getting three sacks WJ with five knock downs and we win by a 100.

Or even signing guys to future deals would be nice. Ottawa, for example, signed a QB a couple weeks ago so they could kick tires a bit, saw something they liked so they signed him to a futures deal for next season. They released him from the PR so now they can bring someone else in to take a look at - maybe for this year or maybe for next year. Either way, they aren't standing pat.

In my memory, and in all pro sports, it is extremely rare for a new GM to retain the existing HC. I cannot see that working for the Bombers, nor can I see O'Shea as GM- that would set the team back 15 years.

The Last Castle was one of the best movies ever made imo.

We tried to make up talent difference in receivers signing Mtchell (130k), Sterns and white 105k, and adding Logan. On defense we added Vaughtner to strength the dline and Jones for Lbs, none of which worked out because once again we went for the perceived bargains. Which was my point we didnt really strengthen anything

Trey Vaval

I guess Schoen takes no responsibility what so ever cuz he’s a child right. Honestly. It’s pro sports.

Same curse. Im picking up Mills

Garbutt is hurt...has been for most yr And I agree...we I think are telling WJ that's his role at times You can see games..like grey cup..and some this yr if they turn him loose he causes chaos He needs 2 ...3 running mates to really make him effective...he is far from regression or lost it A true nose or DT would help all our ends too

show me your receipts...I dont recall an instance where is was way out in loony tunes land yeah...when there is scheme u=issues....roster deficiencies...tackling issues....discipline issues....maybe an extra day at the job working on them us helpful?....call my crazy but does that matter tho?

Partially torn is a torn ACL and is how it is commonly reported as simply a torn ACL. Did any of them say completely torn? Same thing. What was reported was that he had a torn ACL. Severity of the tear was not reported. What I do know is that you cannot rehab a torn ACL. It's impossible and Schoen was trying to rehab his after consulting with Couture about his options. Torn ACL has no options, it's surgery. So while I have nothing saying it was partially torn, you guys cannot point me to one single shred of evidence saying completely torn. Therefore, I will assume partially torn which you can rehab, and that our 23 year lead athletic therapist and one of the most respected athletic therapists in Canada knew his ****. You guys are literally accusing him of malpractice.

Prove it. I've had one and rehabbed by way through it. I have not heard a single shred of legitimate evidence stating it was fully torn. You posted up a tweet by Ed Tait saying his ACL was torn. Guess what? A partial tear is also referred to as a torn ACL. When I had my partial tear the doctor told me I was lucky it was not fully torn because that would require immediate surgery before the ends of the ligament shorten. So, the bullcrap you guys are trying to sell is that Alain Couture in his 23rd year with the Bombers and widely regarded as one of the best athletic therapists in his field, either misdiagnosed Schoen or committed medical malpractice by letting him play on a fully torn ACL. Contrary to the BS that you guys are selling Alain has final say on whether a player plays or not. Not MOS, not the player themselves decides that. Alain Couture is entering his 23rd season with the Winnipeg Football Club in 2025, overseeing the health and well-being of every player on the roster. Couture provides constant updates to the head coach on the health status of every player, and ultimately has the final say on whether they can return to the field after being injured.