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lol @Noeller laughs because he thinks that reality mirrors his feel good storybook dreams O’Shea is finished. This is what you get when nobody is fighting for anything. Performance doesn’t matter, trot the same bums out every week. The only thing that matters is loyalty, so if you show up and go through the motions your job is safe .. why invest anything beyond that? Hogan, Younger … proof that all you need to do is put the time in and you will prosper. Bridges, Case, Bonds … more of the same. the reality is we need a major adjustment and if O’Shea can’t be the one to make it then we need to find someone who can. This is ******* pathetic and he’s the main reason why it’s gotten to this point.

2 of the biggest free agency signings were Mitchell and Jones... neither one can get a sniff on the roster and to me that speaks to a huge disconnect in how the team is being run.

Draw a warm bath, lower yourself in slowly, then take a dump where you sit. /recap

“People aren’t going to like to hear this, but I’m very relaxed about the situation, because you see what’s happening, and the answers are easy,” O’Shea said. “There’s a bunch of guys in that room that have seen it go down a pile of different ways, so I believe we have a bunch of guys that just understand, ‘Let’s make some corrections, let’s go to work and let’s be better,’ So that’s one of the reasons why it’s easy to just stay even keeled.” If the answers were that easy, why weren't they made after the first Calgary game?

This is what Riderfans could have been doing the last 12 years (especially the last 5 seasons), but they couldn’t bring themselves to the bath part.

Just popping in to say...I'm as disappointed as any of you. I get that things are said in the heat of the moment...but some of the posts making poking fun at the Case injury...be better

Beyond anything else...the Bombers have like 2/5 of a CFL receiving corps. Schoen probably won't be close to 100% this season. They have no chance to win anything just based on that position group in this league.

The score, as lop-sided as it is, actually flatters the Bombers. They were never in this game.

They should shut ZC down for 6 games to "heal" and turn it over to Strev...to see...and if anything will help develop him to backup this yr...or realize we need to move on next

All of us? 🤷‍♂️

2023?

We literally had a press conference held for the signing of Mitchell to introduce him. Now he’s a healthy scratch. He was also being touted as the replacement for the star we already had that we let walk. Someone needs to explain that.

I gave oshea a lot of rope because he earned it, but last season and this season has just shown he's all out of ideas at this point.

Fire O’Shea, hes the architect behind this tire fire

Smart move by osh too have Thomas out there...to gassed to pop offside

I would put a paper bag over my head but they only allow clear plastic into the stadium. Wait, that might actually be better...

Nice throw Strev. At least you have heart.

Sterns is a better DB than Bridges

I think Hogan wants a guy that moves the ball out a lot quicker, like a Calvillo/Glenn style. Neither of our QB's is great at that. Streveler really struggles if moved off his first read and then he goes hero mode...which he can't really do anymore on his own. But Streveler does get into good rhythm off tempo and moves the ball out quicker in tempo. IMO...we don't have the right receivers to run anything that works for Collaros....or really anyone. Sterns can get some separation and make space, but he's 5'7. He's not running by or through anyone after the catch. Wheatfall doesn't seem like they trust. He screws up and they just avoid him. But often the only guy dressed who is a real target for vertical stuff which is kind of the calling card of this era for the Bombers. Demski has some limits, obviously can make some big plays, but can disappear if there's no other threat. Clercius is great at Z, win those isolation routes without having to deal with traffic and move his feet too much to win. Mitchell brings that ability to take the top off, not a whole lot else. Him and Wheatfall can be dangerous on screens if they are confident. Schoen, who knows, doesn't look physically capable. OL is up and down. Think our Week 1 OL is the best combo, but the vets on our line week to week are consistently inconsistent. Randolph...don't think he's won a job. Vanterpool probably our best player on the line so far this year. If I'm starting Streveler this week, I'd run tempo the whole game. I'd have like 12 plays and just run the hell out of tempo, no huddle. Inside zone read R/L, Outside zone read R/L, QB Draw, 3-4 RPO plays, 3-4 drop back passes, swap sides and route combos each pass play, change the reads so it looks different to D, short yardage pack. Don't need to trick anyone one, just need to beat them and tire them out.

I love Streveler for what he is, and what he's done in our uniform. But this is laughable. This team was his in 2019 for the taking. I know he was young, but the only reason Collaros is here at all is because Streveler was 3-5 with a team that went 13-2 and won the Grey Cup in games with Nichols/Collaros. If anyone viewed Streveler as a starting quality QB, he'd be in Edmonton, or Hamilton last year, or Toronto, or Calgary. He's just not that level of player. He's a good backup with some unique qualities if he's healthy. Which he's nowhere near. Watch the guy throw a ball. He's arm throwing, he's getting nothing from his core, hips and down. He likely should not have returned until after Labour Day.

No way for any of us to know if the play calls are the issue because we don't know what the calls were. Having said that, I think I'd be okay with holding ZC out this week no matter what and giving Strev a full week of starter reps and a game plan specifically designed for him.

It's scary when look at who the Argos were starting on OL and at QB. If they'd ground out a close win, that would be one thing. But the Bombers never even had a chance to win. And I'd say the casual fans have clued in by now.

Whats OShea gonna say,, We played like crap,and the players need to be accountable or changes will be made,? Oh wait thats Dinwiddie.

Two things that baffle me 1 Every time we play Argos we get away from the run game, even when our recievers arent healthy ,2; Why has Parker become invisible,? The first 3 games he was all over the field making plays now even on all the deep throws hes nowhere to be found This along with our roster decisions are frustrating to say the least

The mismanagement of this off season with a grey cup at home is a huge slap in the face to the fans. They signed one (imo) impact FA and Osh put him on the 1-Game for 2 months

here's an interesting observation....take the last 3 grey cups....Last season and this season...we are a 14-13 team and if not for that fluke wind last year in Mtl we are a sub .500 team at 13-14....Thats 27 games folks....you see the trend? Even the last 3 playoff yrs..,,,,we are 3-3....a .500 club This didn't just come from outta nowhere....and over all those games...there has been a consistent group of things contributing to it Firther to that....last yrs poor start I think most the losses were like by one score.....less than double digits anyway...this yr...we not even in the game by the 3rd quarter....think about it....and Our HC in all those games thinks that things are good...we will figure it out...they all starters....they here cause they give us a chance to win...we really like him.......isn't happening with how he is running this show....it's almost to the point now we just need to put a tent over it all and call it a Circus in ugly fashion again...out coached...unprepared....out classed....out physicalled....save for a core of about 7...8 guys Jackson definately needs to take over....or at the least be the game day quality/control guy and call the shots

Imo you don’t fire him. But you promote Jackson to be his boss on offence pretty quickly here.

I'm calling it right now, Mitchell not on the roster next week, Corcoran starts, Cobb backs up based on MOS's post game interview on CJOB.

Not disputing the reduction of snaps for Jefferson being a great move for that position group, but Toronto dressed a spectacularly bad OL tonight. They signed Shane Richards off the street this week and started him at guard. There's no way we should be giving up 400 yards of offense to that.

First I've ever heard of it.

Even harder to find someone who looked good tonight than last week... if oshea won't start holding the players accountable then he is the one who will need to be held accountable. 3 weeks of **** and no roster changes. Unacceptable and totally predic. The roster isn't good enough to stand pat after losing badly anymore.

Coaching...2 turds Some guys gotta go...turd Adams..all 3 ends...Lawson...BO...Strev...Jones stepped up a bit...not much after that

They don't use Brady enough as a runner or receiver

To be fair, we always gloat when they struggle as well .. that’s rivalries for ya.

Look at that yards and turn over discrepancy. Strevy has 6 pass attempts and people acting like this game is his fault some how.

I like the way Streveler plays, he really scraps for every yard, but he'll never be the guy to pick a defence apart. And he runs like Schoen - like a train leaving the station. Legs are pumping but he's just not going anywhere.

Nice helmet to helmet shot on Streveler.

Nichols turned into absolute butt cheeks wasn’t on my bingo card

Hogan gets no outs either.

Every coach has an expiration date, every player too. A lesson the Bombers hierarchy need to explore

Can't wait for post game presser and Osh's bullshit explanations

If Oshea won’t make changes - it’s time for Walter’s to make them.

I ******* hate our defense. Its like a gross flaccid penis.

Well, 30 minutes of humiliation over, with more to come.

Fat f*ck thomas

The fat lady is singing before half time.....to a 1-6 team

As much as I hate our defense, I hate Zach even more. He's so far gone his shelf life and we lost a good Qb keeping this old rust bucket. He's personally responsible for losing 2 of the last 3 Grey Cups and he's going behind the wheel driving us straight in to a river.

we're making a 1-5 team look like a champion.

That ratteler of a hit he took last game gonna be ghosts for him all yr now

Our coverage is so worried about everyone being on the right route that they literally end up covering no one and not reacting to the ball at all. The whole point of this sport is the ball. Obviously this system has worked, but it's not working and this group of players as a team in the secondary aren't up to running it.