voodoochylde Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Great post Dascow. Thats very true about them not immediately informing the public of their error. Its entirely possible that the winner, who had checked his ticket against the website and with the Bombers directly, would have assumed he was not the winner and never checked the website again..and thus would never have seen the number change. Seems pretty clear the Bombers caught their mistake but hoped no one would notice. And is it true the only reason we know this happened is because local media asked the winner what took him so long? The Bombers only commented after the fact and after lotteries announced they were looking into it. Perhaps they should have thrown in some lifetime season tickets to keep Mr Richot quiet... Thats also a great point about the former unclaimed prize. Imagine if it came out the same mistake was made... The former prize wasn't unclaimed .. if I remember correctly, the original winner wasn't eligible to participate in the draw .. therefore the pot was carried over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 ///Doesn't bode well for future 50/50's ...However mistakes don't just occur in that type of draw....Look at some of the fiascos in the Lotto Max and 6/49 draws that have occurred over the years...You buy a ticket you takes your chances...Buyers expect things to be run flawlessly though...ain't gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 It's obviously an honest mistake and the fact that so many people are losing their minds is absurd. Let's all move on now. I don’t think it’s that obvious Noeller. 1. This kind of thing should never ever happen. Ever. 2. The Bombers have been part of a 50/50 scandal in the past. I think someone went to jail for it. 3. Earlier this year there was another 50/50 draw that was not claimed. The winnings went to the next games 50/50 and because of the pot being so much bigger, 50/50 sales were way up. In light of recent events, that 50/50 draw has to be in question now too. 4. After Mr.Ritchot checks the web site and phones in to verify and is told his is not the correct number, the Bombers realize their mistake and change it on the web site, but they fail to inform anyone of their mistake. They knew someone phoned in with the correct numbers and still failed to inform anyone when they realized their mistake? Making the mistake in the first place is incompetent, but not informing anyone that a mistake was made is corrupt. 5. The Bombers front office has a well earned image problem. This kind thing exacerbates that negative image. In my opinion this is a very serious incident and it needs to be dealt with in a serious manner. The Bombers have been so bad for so long when it comes to their front office that I can no longer make excuses for them or give them the benefit of the doubt. I think the Bombers have denied this happened. If true, it's really bad. I just wish the franchise would stop embarrassing itself. I'm really tired of it. My first reaction to this story was, "that sounds about right". bearpants and Atomic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted December 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Why on earth would Richot lie about calling the Bombers? More likely, the person taking the call was asked if he/she did a proper check of the original winning number, didnt and said 'uh no one called here'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Black Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Lotteries are not the core business of the Bombers. They are trying to do good with the 50-50 being a charity. Good on them. It does seem that for all the good they are trying to achieve they have only hurt themselves. There are lessons in business of poor optics being turned into renewed integrity. Part of fixing this situation they need to get in front of this story, and appear humble and proactive to fix the draw in the future. They don't have to reinvent the wheel, but certainly could use a lesson or two from other down grading incidents, http://www.businessinsider.com/pr-disasters-crisis-management-2011-5?op=1 Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted December 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Lotteries are not the core business of the Bombers. They are trying to do good with the 50-50 being a charity. Good on them. It does seem that for all the good they are trying to achieve they have only hurt themselves. There are lessons in business of poor optics being turned into renewed integrity. Part of fixing this situation they need to get in front of this story, and appear humble and proactive to fix the draw in the future. They don't have to reinvent the wheel, but certainly could use a lesson or two from other down grading incidents, http://www.businessinsider.com/pr-disasters-crisis-management-2011-5?op=1 Yes, if I was them I would have taken responsibility and made it seem as though they were inviting Lotteries to come in and help them restore integrity to the process. It might not be true but it seems they hoped no one would find out what happened... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basslicker Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Man, I wish the bombers were doing these screw ups on purpose. At least they'd be sly and coniving. .....instead of inept and idiotic. We truly have become the joke of the CFL. And there is not reason to be excited for next year. Westy Sucks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 It's obviously an honest mistake and the fact that so many people are losing their minds is absurd. Let's all move on now. I don’t think it’s that obvious Noeller. 3. Earlier this year there was another 50/50 draw that was not claimed. The winnings went to the next games 50/50 and because of the pot being so much bigger, 50/50 sales were way up. In light of recent events, that 50/50 draw has to be in question now too. It was claimed. But the person was ineligible. Completely different scenarios. blitzmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BomberBall Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Man, I wish the bombers were doing these screw ups on purpose. At least they'd be sly and coniving. .....instead of inept and idiotic. We truly have become the joke of the CFL. And there is not reason to be excited for next year Whaaaaaahhhh! bigg jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolBlue Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Can you imagine if someone held the (incorrect) winning ticket and claimed it? That would have been an expensive mistake, or a PR disaster - probably both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Perception is playing a key role in how people are choosing to react to this story. Yes it's unfortunate that this mistake happened, and yes, there will be actions that will take place in order to prevent this from happening again. Sometimes an error has to happen before a flaw in the process can be spotted. It's sucks but it's reality. Thankfully, in this situation, it all worked out. People will consider what they have read or heard and form their opinion of what happened in between any gaps in the story. For those that believe that the club is "corrupt" because they were purposely keeping things a secret should consider what the club's track record on information disclosure with relation to the 50/50 has been in the past. They've always been fully transparent, wouldn't you agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Perception is playing a key role in how people are choosing to react to this story. Yes it's unfortunate that this mistake happened, and yes, there will be actions that will take place in order to prevent this from happening again. Sometimes an error has to happen before a flaw in the process can be spotted. It's sucks but it's reality. Thankfully, in this situation, it all worked out. People will consider what they have read or heard and form their opinion of what happened in between any gaps in the story. For those that believe that the club is "corrupt" because they were purposely keeping things a secret should consider what the club's track record on information disclosure with relation to the 50/50 has been in the past. They've always been fully transparent, wouldn't you agree? Depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacklewasher Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 For those that believe that the club is "corrupt" because they were purposely keeping things a secret should consider what the club's track record on information disclosure with relation to the 50/50 has been in the past. They've always been fully transparent, wouldn't you agree? The cynic in me will wonder if they have only been transparent when an issue was brought to the media's attention, but I'm not that guy........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 The reality is that unlike a lot of cities the Winnipeg sports teams are under a microscope constantly by the media. TrueBlue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 The reality is that unlike a lot of cities the Winnipeg sports teams are under a microscope constantly by the media. Yeah that doesn't happen in any other city. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 The thing that makes this seem even worse to me is it was the Grey Cup 50-50 draw, if you're gonna mess up, mess up on a national stage LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basslicker Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Man, I wish the bombers were doing these screw ups on purpose. At least they'd be sly and coniving. .....instead of inept and idiotic. We truly have become the joke of the CFL. And there is not reason to be excited for next year Whaaaaaahhhh! Soooo......we're NOT a joke? I guess getting a 'participant' trophy is good enough for you, because the team tried their best? Or maybe you can comment on the awesome handling of the new stadium was , or maybe how we have one winning season since 2008? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 The reality is that unlike a lot of cities the Winnipeg sports teams are under a microscope constantly by the media. There is this fascination with this for sure with the Bombers based on our field production, ticket sales, stadium issues, parking, or just hatred in general. Any other franchise with a million problems to sort out would get the same scrutiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BomberBall Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Man, I wish the bombers were doing these screw ups on purpose. At least they'd be sly and coniving. .....instead of inept and idiotic. We truly have become the joke of the CFL. And there is not reason to be excited for next year Whaaaaaahhhh! Soooo......we're NOT a joke? I guess getting a 'participant' trophy is good enough for you, because the team tried their best? Or maybe you can comment on the awesome handling of the new stadium was , or maybe how we have one winning season since 2008? Oh brother... I stand by my original statement. Take your ball and go home. blitzmore and SPuDS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALuCsRED Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 It's obviously an honest mistake and the fact that so many people are losing their minds is absurd. Let's all move on now. I don’t think it’s that obvious Noeller. 3. Earlier this year there was another 50/50 draw that was not claimed. The winnings went to the next games 50/50 and because of the pot being so much bigger, 50/50 sales were way up. In light of recent events, that 50/50 draw has to be in question now too. It was claimed. But the person was ineligible. Completely different scenarios. Any idea of what made the person ineligible? Worked for Team, relative of someone who did, age, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Nothing to see here folks, the error was caught and the price awarded to the rightful winner. Noeller and SPuDS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 Any idea of what made the person ineligible? Worked for Team, relative of someone who did, age, etc? People (employees and volunteers) with the organizations selling the tickets and their families are not allowed to buy tickets. Also employees of MB Lotteries and their families. Rod Black and ALuCsRED 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 2. The Bombers have been part of a 50/50 scandal in the past. I think someone went to jail for it.The person who was convicted was a former President of the Winnipeg Rifles. Changes were made after it was discovered the guy was rigging some draws. Rod Black 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 The thing that makes this seem even worse to me is it was the Grey Cup 50-50 draw, if you're gonna mess up, mess up on a national stage LOL. What if the winner would been from out of town, then we have some national press Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacklewasher Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 The thing that makes this seem even worse to me is it was the Grey Cup 50-50 draw, if you're gonna mess up, mess up on a national stage LOL. What if the winner would been from out of town, then we have some national press Could have been from out of the Country. Even Muslim. The mistake could have reduced funding for ISIS. Bet no one thought of that IC Khari and Atomic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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