BigBlue Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 I remember the ridicule on this forum as so many critiicized GM Desjardins personnel decisions. He drafted Glenn then outbid us on Burris .... he went out & acquired talent for him ... your QB doesn't have a record breaking career year without that We paid up for Westerman but we didn't do what it takes to get players like Muamba and Chris Williams or Collaros or Burris or further back Mike Reilly and so many others .... neither Montreal nor Ottawa has been shy about acquiring veteran receivers or others Teams are built on stars and leaders .... the middle class of players don't make a lot of difference, they usually live up to what is around them What would Ricky Ray in a BB uniform mean for us this year? More than Picard? As much as Burris? Of course acquiring one big signing per year isn't enough to hold a self-congratulatory fiesta but we seem to do exactly that every year with the exception of Mack's "everything from within" era. So do we: 1. lack the will to get the job done (building a champion)? 2. lack the football IQ to recognize what it takes? 3. care enough about a championship to make it an all out priority? And who is really responsible for answering these 3 questions, who is the one who really controls the purse strings? And is this person a genuine leader? Do we have anybody in our org that has what it takes? DR. CFL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 What would it meant to have all 5 oline guys play every game and the QB. Ottawa is not the best team in the East they are the healtiest. blitzmore, Noeller and SPuDS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taynted_Fayth Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 I wonder if when they drafted people off other teams in the expansion draft, track records of health played a role in who they picked *dont gotta be the best, just gotta stay healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 It is all well and good to stay healthy. Good luck with that. Injuries are part of the game. The solution to that problem is depth. Depth especially at QB and depth everywhere. The teams that made the playoffs had depth, especially at QB. Calgary had significant injury issues on the o line that they dealt with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 The teams that made the playoffs had depth, especially at QB. Hamilton's backup qbs weren't very good. Ottawa's qb depth is terrible, but they were lucky enough not to need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 What would it meant to have all 5 oline guys play every game and the QB. Ottawa is not the best team in the East they are the healtiest. With Collaros, Hamilton is the best in the East by far. I'd put Ottawa 2nd though. Mr Dee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Other teams had Quarteracks go down....and didn't go 5-13 DR. CFL, IC Khari and iso_55 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoochylde Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 The teams that made the playoffs had depth, especially at QB. Hamilton's backup qbs weren't very good. Ottawa's qb depth is terrible, but they were lucky enough not to need it. Montreal's QB depth isn't anything to scream at either .. came down to the final weeks of the season and they went out and picked up Glenn from the Riders. It's not just about depth. That's only part of the equation. The other part is coaching and the ability to get the most out of players who need to step in when another goes down. We have a coordinator who failed to do that. Who, at the best of times, struggled to put together effective game plans week in week out. No amount of "depth" is going to help when it looks like an entire unit looks completely unprepared for what's being thrown at them. Mr Dee and blitzmore 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Being an expansion team last year, Ottawa has better Canadian content than Winnipeg, and that's huge. Desjardin didnt need to sweat to get that Canadian content, it was gift wrapped to them by the league. SPuDS, BlueGoldBozo and Mr Dee 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 They also had tons of money to throw around cuz of lots of cfl rookies. Let's see what happens in a year or 2 there when the rookies get paid. Pruneau being one. What will happen when hank hangs them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Tonnes of money?? They paid Burris and a bunch of other guys big coin. Why are people making excuses? Ottawa hired good coaches and signed key guys plain and simple. Desjardins is doing a way better job then Walters. DR. CFL and Dragon37 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueandgold Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 It would've been nice if we could've landed one of those big free agent signings. Chris Williams, Lemon and Henoc all would've been huge for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Tonnes of money?? They paid Burris and a bunch of other guys big coin. Why are people making excuses? Ottawa hired good coaches and signed key guys plain and simple. Desjardins is doing a way better job then Walters. If WIlly had stayed healthy and Burris had been done for the year before Labour Day would anyone be saying this? Walters has to get better but let's not pretend that Desjardins did anything special. Only team in the East to have their starting qb all season, I think they're the only team to have used the same OL all year... those are huge benefits. blitzmore, SPuDS and Mr. Perfect 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Ottawa was 2 - 16, they had a boat load of cap space, and used it wisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Tonnes of money?? They paid Burris and a bunch of other guys big coin. Why are people making excuses? Ottawa hired good coaches and signed key guys plain and simple. Desjardins is doing a way better job then Walters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 You don't think the coaching isn't miles ahead of us. I think had Burris gone down.. DeMarco or whoever still would of done better then us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 You don't think the coaching isn't miles ahead of us. I think had Burris gone down.. DeMarco or whoever still would of done better then us. I'll give you the OC being an upgrade, but their backup QBs would have them fighting for a playoff spot..like us. blitzmore and SPuDS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Tonnes of money?? They paid Burris and a bunch of other guys big coin. Why are people making excuses? Ottawa hired good coaches and signed key guys plain and simple. Desjardins is doing a way better job then Walters. If WIlly had stayed healthy and Burris had been done for the year before Labour Day would anyone be saying this? Walters has to get better but let's not pretend that Desjardins did anything special. Only team in the East to have their starting qb all season, I think they're the only team to have used the same OL all year... those are huge benefits. Do you think that had we gone through the whole season with the O-line we had coming out of training camp, we would have been all that much better??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Tonnes of money?? They paid Burris and a bunch of other guys big coin. Why are people making excuses? Ottawa hired good coaches and signed key guys plain and simple. Desjardins is doing a way better job then Walters. If WIlly had stayed healthy and Burris had been done for the year before Labour Day would anyone be saying this? Walters has to get better but let's not pretend that Desjardins did anything special. Only team in the East to have their starting qb all season, I think they're the only team to have used the same OL all year... those are huge benefits. Do you think that had we gone through the whole season with the O-line we had coming out of training camp, we would have been all that much better??? Yes truthfully. Losing the RT had a pretty big impact on things because it kept pushing people into positions they couldn't handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 I would disagree. Right tackle was a problem, but so was the center, left guard and even left tackle more than it should have been, given Bryant's resume. Even left guard was unsettled a fair bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Not real sure about our blocking schemes, either....given how many times the opposition would zone blitz....and get in clean, while our OL stood around with totally perplexed looks on their faces,,,,, blitzmore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Confusion offence doesn't sound very productive ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Yup, the idea is to confuse the opposition, not yourselves...... IC Khari 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Out Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 People are fooling themselves thinking that the only reason Ottawa was better this year was because of Hank and the oline being healthy. That's not reasoning, that's excuse making. Drew Willy's winning % as a starter isn't comparable to Burris, and the receiving core and O line quality isn't even worth comparing. Might as well take a dump and compare the smell to a bowl of a flowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 I was wrong about Marcel Desjardens. He did a great job this year. All the bad stuff I said about him was wrong. RebusRankin November 9th, 2015 IC Khari, Mark F and TBURGESS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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