B-F-F-C Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) Steve Morley @SteveMorley62 .@garylawless just said on TSN, Nichols wants $450k a season and is going to free agency. Nichols response? Nichols - I am? ??Well, we knew right from the start that something was up with the Bombers QB situation. I mean, 4-5 QBs and none of them signed? SNAP Hut one - Nichols is trolling for more money Hut two - the Bombers are holding fast Hut three - the Bombers are said to be in on that Franklin fellow, and there are draft picks involved. Ah, it must be close to off-season with all this buzz about.. Now I know this is rumour but at the sametime Lawless seems to be pretty connected and a reliable source. So, in one word this "scares" me. First off I don't think Nichols is worth $450m. It's truly his first year as a starter and yes he lead the team to the best record we've seen in a while but come on. He needs to follow up with another good year before he gets paid in the same postal code as Reilly and Mitchell. I know it's never going to happen but I'd like to see a 1 year contract at lets say $250m and then if he follows up with another strong season. By all means give him his $450m. This is going to get interesting and quite frankly I could see the Bombers let him walk if he doesn't lower his salary expectations. Edited November 28, 2016 by B-F-F-C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Lawless usually doesn't throw material like this unless their is some truth behind it. The club I would hope would not even go remotely that high for Nichols and I do believe the club has the upper hand when it comes to negotiations. I am to assume that next season that the available qbs will be Burris, Durant, Nichols, Glenn and either Ray/Willy. If for some reason Nichols is wanting that massive pay cheque and isn't willing to come down to a reasonable price... I'd think that Durant would be airlifted here in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Nichols says regarding the rumour about fa....'I am'...with a question mark.....orrrrr should it have been 'I am',period....Guess we'll find out soon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 If Nichols doesn't sign I try to get Franklin before FA. Tell him you will rip uspcontact for next year and sign him to a 3 yr contract. Then resign Glenn or see what is going to happen with Ricky Ray. That being said I hope Nichols resigns. Judd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 22 minutes ago, B-F-F-C said: Steve Morley @SteveMorley62 .@garylawless just said on TSN, Nichols wants $450k a season and is going to free agency. Nichols response? Nichols - I am? ??Well, we knew right from the start that something was up with the Bombers QB situation. I mean, 4-5 QBs and none of them signed? SNAP Hut one - Nichols is trolling for more money Hut two - the Bombers are holding fast Hut three - the Bombers are said to be in on that Franklin fellow, and there are draft picks involved. Ah, it must be close to off-season with all this buzz about.. Now I know this is rumour but at the sametime Lawless seems to be pretty connected and a reliable source. So, in one word this "scares" me. First off I don't think Nichols is worth $450m. It's truly his first year as a starter and yes he lead the team to the best record we've seen in a while but come on. He needs to follow up with another good year before he gets paid in the same postal code as Reilly and Mitchell. I know it's never going to happen but I'd like to see a 1 year contract at lets say $250m and then if he follows up with another strong season. By all means give him his $450m. This is going to get interesting and quite frankly I could see the Bombers let him walk if he doesn't lower his salary expectations. I don't see how any NFL team, let alone CFL team could pay Nichols $250 million, never mind 450 According to Justin Dunk earlier in the year, Nichols made a base of $169k and an additional 152k in play time bonuses, for 321k. That is really your starting point for next year, he isn't going to make less money. I would bump him up to 350k with somewhere around 250k in base salary. Judd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-F-F-C Posted November 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 sorry...that's the old banker coming out . In banking "m" stands for thousands. So $350m is $350,000. and $350mm is $35,000,000. I've been retired for over 2 years but old habits are hard to break. Rich and Brandon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Doesnt seem like a difficult deal to get done. I would say Bombers likely offer Nichols the best deal. Taking into account they gave him the chance to be a starter and even traded away their "established" starter for him, you'd think there is some mutual loyalty. Bombers dont want another Willy situation though but like Rich said, if he made over $300,000 this season, he isnt signing for less next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Plus for once we have an established line which is one of the better ones in the league a group of very capable receivers with a couple game breakers. Along with a elite back. Great situation to be a QB in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-F-F-C Posted November 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 25 minutes ago, Rich said: I don't see how any NFL team, let alone CFL team could pay Nichols $250 million, never mind 450 According to Justin Dunk earlier in the year, Nichols made a base of $169k and an additional 152k in play time bonuses, for 321k. That is really your starting point for next year, he isn't going to make less money. I would bump him up to 350k with somewhere around 250k in base salary. Makes sense...didn't know Nichols earned that much last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolby Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I like Nichols, his decision making,potential but in no way shape or form is he worth BLM territory money. 375 would be thee absolute highest I'd go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 As long as the guaranteed money isn't extraordinarily high (I like the 250 number) then I'll give him whatever he wants in bonuses, 'cause if he earns 'em, then he's worth it... ediger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I suspect that was just the first shot in negotiations and not an ultimatum. Dee Urban Hermit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BomberBall Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I'm sure his agent threw out the $450k and the Bombers offered $350k. Let the negotiations begin. They'll likely settle in the $375ish area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Durant would be an interesting add, can you imagine him for the Bombers verses Burris for the Riders on LD in the new Mosaic Stadium? At any rate I hope they can sign Nichols, he's earned a chance to be the Bombers starter in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I think a deal will be concluded rapidly with little fanfare or discordance. At this time Nichols and the Bombers are a good fit for each other other and they'll find a way to make it work. Those who think he's not worth retaining have either short term memories or a high tolerance for pain. IC Khari 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 If we don't find a way to re-sign Nichols (I think we will)... I would love to see us sign Durant and trade for Franklin... purely for the satisfaction of seeing the rider fanbase lose their collective minds... bigg jay, Jesse and Brandon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Out Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 as much as I like Nichols I want the Bombers to use our draft picks to get Franklin. Nichols isn't a spring chicken and I don't see him as someone who can command an offense in the way Franklin can if he hits his ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 49 minutes ago, bearpants said: If we don't find a way to re-sign Nichols (I think we will)... I would love to see us sign Durant and trade for Franklin... purely for the satisfaction of seeing the rider fanbase lose their collective minds... I had the exact same thought for the exact same reason. Kick the ant hill over there but good. bearpants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 45 minutes ago, White Out said: as much as I like Nichols I want the Bombers to use our draft picks to get Franklin. Nichols isn't a spring chicken and I don't see him as someone who can command an offense in the way Franklin can if he hits his ceiling. He's only 29.... Franklin is 25. Come on now.... Logan007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Out Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 41 minutes ago, Brandon said: He's only 29.... Franklin is 25. Come on now.... Remember when people said Willy was the younger of the two? And he's months younger than Nichols? 4 years is a lot when you could make the case he's the next big time qb for th CFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlue Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I have to laugh when I hear some of you say I would pay him thus and such and not a nickel more ... I don't think most of you have the slightest clue about negotiations ... just fan ego flapping its lips in the wind Logan007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 1 hour ago, White Out said: Remember when people said Willy was the younger of the two? And he's months younger than Nichols? 4 years is a lot when you could make the case he's the next big time qb for th CFL Or he could be just another over hyped young qb who looked good in limited reps and can't sustain it over the long haul. Jury is out on the guy until he proves himself one way or the other. Logan007 and Eternal optimist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 1 hour ago, White Out said: Remember when people said Willy was the younger of the two? And he's months younger than Nichols? 4 years is a lot when you could make the case he's the next big time qb for th CFL What's hilarious is a 41 year old qb just completely outplayed a young "up and coming" qb. Dee Urban Hermit, IC Khari and Logan007 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Out Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 58 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Or he could be just another over hyped young qb who looked good in limited reps and can't sustain it over the long haul. Jury is out on the guy until he proves himself one way or the other. If Nichols can be had for 375 or less I'm fine with that. But my primary preference is we go with Franklin and possibly finally have a star QB MOBomberFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Out Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 12 minutes ago, Brandon said: What's hilarious is a 41 year old qb just completely outplayed a young "up and coming" qb. I dont think you can say BLM is a young "up and coming qb". He's at worst the 2nd best QB in the CFL. At worst. And he's only 26. mitchell has a lousy game by his standards but the Stampeders D were the ones that put them in that huge deficit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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