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Jake Thomas trying to bury all of his criticism on the 10th page.

Thing is you can have mid-season turn around in the cfl pretty easily. The key is you actually have to make changes.

Walters ****** us with that Collaros contract.

Yep. Ckeaned it up, banned the bots.

He's tanned, rested, and ready....

His official Status is F&@$ed

My guess is that ZC may be out for awhile. Just a hunch but he may be dealing with a recurring injury from August 2023, after which his efficiency as a QB began to decline. Right now, six games or 1/3 into 2025 season, ZC has the worst QB efficiency rating among all the 9 regular starting QBs. Collaros also has the highest INT percentage with 8 INTs vs 7 TDs. Colloros's QB efficiency rating isn't just the worst among starters, at 89.1 it is significantly worse than the others. You could argue Zach has the weakest receiver unit in the league which would contribute to this inefficiency. But looking back at 2024 with a better crop of receivers, Collaros threw 19 INT vs 21 TDs - this includes 4 INTS in the GREY CUP and 4 TDs in West Final - which gave Zach the worst INT percentage last year among QBs who started 10 games or more. That is a total of 28 INT versus 28 TDs in the past 25 games in which Collaros has appeared. Yes you can lay some of that on the receivers. But still. This is not to take away from Zach's substantial contribution since he arrived here in 2019 - respect! But the decline in Collaros's performance since around August 11 2023 neck injury vs Elks (when Dru Brown came off the bench to win the game) is clear as day.

You sure? MOS to Case:

I don't think we beat the Bisons twice if we play them now. This is a great game - it's games like this that I enjoy and the product is so much better than watching some crappy NFL game. Just wish all CFL games were this good. Like for instance the game last night, which was bad.

That's the int. of the year

The Canadian depth we have is strong. Starting Canadians are weak. Though we could platoon shay and smith at 1lber spot, which would cost us little on the field and give us tremendous upside. If we flipped Wil to platoon NI, Makonzo can be a dime to rotate with shay and smith. Then we could start Woods and Adams, rotating in Lawson. Which would give us ratio flexibility off the bench too. That is excellent versatility with our depth. We could also start lawson and rotate with over the cap NI. Dress Bailey for the 2nd global and suddenly we have an extremely deep DL that can rotate freely. We also have a good few guys who can play inside out in many fronts. We don't need the extra NI Dt by any means. Swap kola for eli, and maybe dress Viebert as the extra OL. Put in mitchell, and cobb for case and ball. Lots of easy wins with better roster management.

We can't play Streveler if Zach is making nearly $600,000 a year & Streveler $180,000. Bonus for us (ho boy!) is next year Zach has guaranted money- 50%, so $250-$300,000. No team will pick up his contract for that. Lots of strange decisions were made by Walters this past off season but this is a crippler financially.

If he is suffering from an injury suffered in 2023 it makes his contract extension that much more idiotic.

If thats the case then lets see what Stevelers got. I think he will surprise a few posters.

Hamilton there with 7 former Bombers deemed not good enough would be a real kick to the ****** for the higher ups in bomberville

Not at all...we will have one...whatever move we are forced to make to replace Case...seems like a slam dunk choice but this is Osh we talking about and I have more feeling he will be making another absurd move

Yes, let's do that again

hey if Hamilton is in the grey cup then winnipeg damned sure better be there too.

we never really went Nichols to Zach... Nichols was hurt and streveler took over from him for the better part of the back half of the season, but he also got the ankle injury. Collaros started 1 game in the regular season in 2019 and then in the playoffs split time with Streveler and both leaned on Andrew Harris anyway. The difference in 2019 were things like moving Alexander to safety, bringing in Taylor at halfback and Maston at SAM and there was another DB came in who I can't remember his name right now... those were the key moves in making 2019 a championship team. solidified the weakness of the defence and turned them into monsters.

Not surprised, he hasn't been held accountable for any failings here to day why would that start now? When you can toss away GCs to back up QBs, twice back to back to no less, you aren't going to worry mid-season. The answers have always been easy, he just refuses to seriously consider or make them.

Knew that wasn't it once we moved on from Brown. Everyone knows it in hindsight, but really wanted us to trade Zach for some value while he had it and go young. Then last off season basically all the young guys took over spots/teams, and the vets dispersed as back ups. At this point, I hope Elgersma sticks the whole year in the NFL on PRs and is in camp next year. If he ends up here this year, it will likely cost us Artopoeus. Chase, Elgersma, Wilson, and Strev are likely our best case scenario next TC. short of us making some move to replace one of them with a younger, slightly more experienced cfl guy. Jake and Kola gotta go. And after that, we need to prioritize young development over mediocre veteran production. Still wouldn't bet that actually happens for the most part. I think bridges is the only guy who lost his job, Vaval might finally be out as a KR for the year, though he looked solid at db. No reason Parker should continue at S over a guy like Allen. I think Woodbeys physicality would be a massive improvement for us too.

WE have four Canadian DT's...more than enough depth as we technically dont even really need one to meet ratio if we choose..We can also use Bailey in that last spot....A Canadian or a Global...so we good We have Kelly and Makonzo both coming back...Shay...Smith....loltsa Canadian options to supplant pooching the dead weight...

I used to think the Collaros extension was for him to groom the next Bomber QB. But it's clear as long as MOS is in charge, we'll continue to trot him out there hoping he can regain his 2019 form. After all you can't be great if you don't play (Circa 2023 Bighill and Schoen)! Anyways this team is a dumpster fire right now. I really hope that someone has the balls to remove Jake Thomas and Bridges. And for the love of God, put Dillon Mitchell in.

I am concerned of that too. Though his football IQ is enough that he can succeed on significnatly less athletic explosive ability than he had, if he can get to a new 100% and change his game. I don't think he was actually healthy enough to be playing at all this year.

You make an interesting point. This certainly seems to have come up out of no where.

Unless every thing goes exactly right, zach isn’t either. IMO the Least reliable starting passer in the league

Crum also not a good enough passer to be a starting QB

Milt has 23 tds and Khari threw 46 td passes in 2002. There was the potential for more too considering we had our fair share of TDs called back for various penalties too. 2000-2002, Khari to Milt was a blast to watch. Lapo neutered that offense in 2003. (In 2002, they more or less kept the Worman offense from the year before).

A linebacker not named J.Jones? I kid! I kid!

Same with Willy to Nichols before that

welcome to 1995 - the last time we went into the downward spiral of mediocrity and long drought. We are probably almost there. I hope we don't need to have a Reinebold situation again where we bring in a goofball who tanks us for two straight years before we wake up.

The process only works when you have good enough players, which the team has had largely for the past several years. They don't have that anymore and time to change the process. Free ride is over Osh. Time to be a head coach again.

Its going to be a long, frustrating season I think

yeah...something about that process is flawed....especially when you not flush with top end guys in their prime....come to think of it...other than BO who do we have thats a top end talent in league in their prime??....I'd say Nichols as the last few games are not really an indication of him being all of a sudden bad....he's stuck in that damed if you do...damned if you dont situation trying to cover miscues elsewhere

Yeah I'd keep T.Jones on roster...he's a great backup...can be really good in situational play...he can excel on teams as well....He should be in Ayers DA spot and would actually be used...why Ayers isnt is baffling...and when he has been...he's used out of position...and with the teams realization Person can play...and play well and will only get better...I dont think I even seen Ayers take a snap other than maybe short yardage??...even then you would think Person took his role there....so really...what a waste of a DA J.Jone taking over in the middle, and if we only need to g=have 1 Canadian on any given snap on defence then slide Griffin or Parker back to SAM....That would help a lot in regards to the confusion in the flats and 10-15 yards from L.O.S Bridges has to be taken out for at least a game to send a message to all players that if you are sucking....you are gonna be replaced...Let Allen get his shot at either safety or CB....and ideally drop Ball or one of Korn and Thomas and let Bailey loose and see what he gives the defence in rotation....and he can play teams as well.....gottafind the right sauce here before it gets into too late territory if Makonzo is helthy and stays healthy he is a very underated/valued guy to the average fan...dude is legit and could cover several spots for us....Same with Smith and Say (whom was touted as the next Singleton)...well let him gt snaps already....same with Smith...all he does is get involved in pretty much every special teams stop....many claim you earn reps with teams play...well he's earned it...and it's not like he came from some CIS school and is behind the curve compared to rookie imports Kelly back as well is gonna help us....but these gys all need to be allowed to play, and get valuable reps so when it's crunch time and we have injury issues...we either know they can play...or trust them and not feel the need to run out walking wounded ...again which has killed us in the past

I think he seriously dorsnt see them....he's either uber stubborn and truly believes he's the smartest guy in the league...or he is just really really stupid

As long as they don't talk harshly of mos/the mafia or say the words "roster management" they should be fairly welcome amongst the posters here 😉

If I'm walters I'm talking to Whoever is the GM in Ott to try and pry a WR out of there.

and really for what Kramdi makes....and what he offers....we need to shed that too...can we trade him out east?....or do we just release next yr....no harm no foul as he isnt on any type of guarantee and can drop him before any bonus if he has one His 135k would be way better served put toward a real impact LB or a legit receiver....and his best served role for us is a ST giy....dependable backup....but not at that price

Interim sure but there's no way Walters fires Osh with no new contract himself. Hey Noeller, you want to lose some sleep? If the losses continue both Head Coach & GM don't have new contracts. Both get fired at the end of the season. Or one or both walk. Have a good sleep.

Is it me or does BC have a good offense but a lousy defense?

#3 and #4 in receptions were roberts and sellers if I remember right.

If only we could have seen this coming. Oh well.

Hell Zach wasn't amazing at any point in 2019 anyway, streveler played as much jn the playoffs as Zach did.

Before the first practice tomorrow I will predict: 1. Corcoran with the 1s. 2. Mitchell of course still not with the ones. 3. Collaros doesn't practice. MOS comments that vets don't need to practice. 4. Bridges remains with the ones. 5. Vaval still the returner.

That's what has me stumped...we still have the same HC. And Younger was solid at DC last year.

Jacked Gafilnakis? The man who once had 2 INts in a single game? Yep, BA was a huge upgrade.

If we’d stayed with Jeff Hecht at safety the rest of the changes don’t cascade the same way and this team doesn’t make it out of Calgary in the 2019 West semi

A Lapo feast for sure.