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Funny thing about the complaining about kick returns as some kind of franchise curse is we have the most total return TD's and fewest return TD's scored on us among CFL teams in the past 10 CFL seasons.

J. Sheahan : 4 punts - 44 yds ave. - 51 yds long - 176 yds total J. Evans : 2 punts - 53.5 yds ave. - 56 yds long - 107 total It's obvious who won here

1 Quinton Cooley. Boy he looked good pass catching and running 2 vaval and cam Allen. Both played very well. 3 adams ton of plays inside and out against starters and backups hh Evan’s 56 yard punt. Boy what a leg that kid has honourable mentions to Jonathon jones pointer person Ayers and Sergio. On the ol Wallace was good, vanterpool and Randolph looked really good post of the game is piggy 1 who hooked us up yet he working link which was more than the cfl or tsn could muster for almost a half.

So hard to make any judgements based on the one game. Limited reps late in the game against Gapper 4s isn't necessarily a big tell. Curious to see how many can follow up decent performances this week with another solid outing next week.

And wearing shorts because he knows he's better than us.

Comes down to a bunch of things. This offense is probably the most complicated set of personnel decisions they've had to make in awhile. 1. What's the OL? If you're going 3 imports there, no chance you can fit on an American tailback who is not your returner. This spot is the priority because nothing will work if they can't get it done. 2. Receiver? Pretty clear to me it will be 3 Americans and 2 Canadians, on the top line. Are you comfortable with Corcoran being the backup? Or do you need another American on? Is Demski going to be good to go? Really thin here for Canadians so any injury is going to be a scramble. 3. Returner? Who is returning and can that player fit in at another spot too. We only saw two guys return. Mitchell looked rough returning and already had a go at the job last year. Vaval looked a little more comfortable. Is Vaval good enough to slot in as extra DB? Any chance to get D Mitchell, Case (know he's injured), Wallis/Harris (assuming one of them survives cuts) some live reps on Friday? So far, I'd assume Vaval is the guy Week 1, so that complicates the path to being active for Cooley. DI's will be Castillo, a LB, a DB and ....? Maybe Vaval slots into the DB spot and returns too. Our Canadian depth on D has taken some hits, seems like Makonzo and Kelly will likely be out Game 1 for us, Hagerty and Ball haven't practiced in awhile. You'd assume that 4th DI would be used on O, but never know with injuries.

New guys: 1. Cooley......yeah the ratio, but another game like that, and he will have to be kept. 2. Artopoeous......nice pocket instinct, good reads, ball out on time. 3. Evan......punter, with some actual leg. Vets: 1. Adams......need more impact plays from interior, and he looks like the man for the job. 2. Strev......looked good standing in the pocket, and slinging the ball. 3. Ayers.....dude popped out on the screen, at LB, a number of times Like: The blitzing and pressure packages on D. None of that Tim Burke crap All the QBs looking pretty good in the pocket No like: Kick returns and coverage (sigh) Some of the receivers.......poor releases, poor pattern running, poor catching.

Agree, Chase Artopeus had that Dru Brown vibe, cool and intelligent, maybe not as physically gifted as Wilson but almost surpassed him in effectiveness in one set of downs. They need to keep him around on the PR to evaluate whether he has real potential to develop or if he's just a gifted improviser that can get by faking it for awhile.

HH to the goal post for continuing to deny Lauther's FG attempts

First off, **** the Riders and their ignorant redneck fans. Second, Osh says won't be a problem to keep an American RB like Cooley. That's helpful. Third, my goodness I love the CFL and am so excited to listen to a game again. Will watch the CFL+ replay tomorrow. Summer is here... Very excited for what I think is going to be a very good Bombers D. Hoping the O can be at least "decent" and we'll be a real "tough out" in 2025...

Yeah yeah. The feelings are hard. Whole league is within 3 yards net on punts last season, 36-39 yards. Everyone right around 10-11 yards per return, difference is a team like Toronto with Grant having a big play return every other game on average. Edmonton 6 yards ahead of anyone else on net punting last year, but also highest net against. Net exchange, barely positive. Sask punted 25 times more than us last season, us and BC punting significantly less. Yeah you want to be best in the league, but it's not like we have some giant deficiency. We need a returner.

Gotta say not happy seeing Woli & Lawler playing for the Ti Cats last night. It was still a shock to the system to see all the former Blue Bombers on that team even though we knew it already. I can understand releasing Woli & wanting to get more playing time for Clercius but Lawler? Currrently the best deep threat in the CFL at the moment. Walters better hope that Schoen plays every game, has a dominant season & get bogged down with injuries since Walters hasn't got a contract for next season. Neither has Osh.

I think white has just about won a job with his run game play and system fit.

I don’t think we see Collaros in SK, especially when he’s not playing in gm 1. Get Streveler those reps.

Imo it would be a mistake to let any of our 4 qbs go.

I agree, kick/punt cover and returns are not a curse for us. But for one side of the equation - most TDs scored - I'd venture to say this is because we had Janarion Grant in Blue & Gold from 2019 to 2023. And if you look at total yards gained on kick and punt returns since we let Grant get away, Bombers are just about the worst in the league. This, despite the fact we force opponents to kick to us more often than virtually every other team - credit our defence for forcing those 3rd down punts. Really, that is an opportunity squandered: more punts coming to us, but among fewest yards gained. Bomber fans see this intuitively - we are getting lots of chances to return the ball but often losing the overall field position battle.

Haha right? im all for modernizing football and helping protect guys health. I think practice and tc has gone too soft. I think it’s actually a detriment now. Guys are trying so hard to make teams with limited contact it’s like flag football injuries on ligaments and soft tissues. I was especially surprised with the QBs prep level considering Jackson hasn’t been in town. Props to hogan. cooley was an instant favorite. Zach said he was his pick to have a big game too. Gotta reward that. yeah adams looks like he’s turning the corner which is huge. man I want Lawson healthy. Him with woods and adams would be incredible. I’d rather flip ratio else where for sure. I was surprised how good person was in the run game. We know he’s a pass rush specialist so if he can get that going with what we saw he’s gonna be special. I like Bailey’s play on teams and contain on D. Would be a big upgrade for our dl depth. Atkinson and viebert both looked better than kola. Yeah Eli just isn’t a guard. But boy he had the 2nd team on cooking. Great pockets for strevy. Allen and Gowan look like front runners. Gonna be hard to keep them off the ar. wouldn’t normally expect Evan’s would be the 24 year old rookie.dude is a stud

cause thats how we used to do it!!!...lol...i got excited too!! Not necessarily 3 stars...but observatyions All QB's looked way more ready and prepared....and the more reps Strev gets as a actual QB the better he will get...we in good hands with our top 3 there Cooley stood out...give him some reps with the #1's and against #1's but there is definitely something there...if he cant get on active roster immediately has to be on the PR If Adams doesn't get 70%+ reps this yr something is wrong...Him and Woods in middle is ideal with majority of reps.....O'm sure he worked all off-season on his CFL legs and will not hit a wall this yr...Pointer looked active...PR possibility Schmeck and Thomas both showed what we all know...zippo....and if Lawson isnt good to go sadly one of them will be rostered....2 tho....no need and just.....why???? Bailey and Person I think make up rotation on the ends....you can see with Person there is something there....for first Canadian action ever he didnt look out of place at all...and is versatile and fast... J..Jones and Ayers showed they should be the MLB and WIL....Does that happen...and of Wilson and T.Jones who gets the DA? Eli is a better center than Eli is a guard...but he did okay there...Eli is a better center than Kolo and was evident in line play when each one anchored center....but how will it shale out...Kolo is not an ideal 6th as if he has to come in for anythong but center its 2..3 moves to fill one....and Wallace showed he can be ideal looking fine at RT and we know he can play guard....and carrying 7 oline guys is just overkill when you can put any big body in when they actually use 7 Cam Allen looks to be a stud in making...Him at safety....Parker at corner as he is versatile and can play all 5 defensive back spots...Vaval or Gowan as the DA??... Evans showed us what a punter is...and has a leg...and allows coverage to get down field before the returner has had ball and already ate up 15 yards before they even down field...of he kiclks like that again next game he deserves the season opener crap...had to edit...I forgot about Griffin too!!...he definately will get lotsa reps...we have some talent on defence

All the receivers in the 1st Q looked pretty solid. That includes M Mitchell and Wheatfall. Think Wheatfall needs to really jump to beat out D Mitchell and M Mitchell is competing in the slot with White, who looked pretty damn good out there.

Net punt is deceiving tho...how many times have u seen a punter kick from between the 20 and 30 right out of scoring range...and our punter guy gets it to midfield...who cares if the net is on par when u still giving up instant scoring position...happened way too often last yr And they said hey..hey never kicked a single...prob cause he needed to be kicking from their 40 to get it there in endzone...so big whip..and how many games have we seen those extra 1..2 points being the difference or reason for a win...a ton So what the odd time u get the single and

Go with whoever Collaros likes better. There's not a ton to choose from between those guys. Mitchell and White have the most experience. They are complimentary with one being more of the heavy inside style and the other being more of the guy you're trying to get loose vertical or one-on-one off a screen with a corner. But if for some reason Collaros really feels comfortable working with Wheatfall or Myron Mitchell, put them on the roster. Didn't sound like Collaros is travelling to Regina as of last night. Think it'll be Streveler first 3-4 series then first couple in 2nd half, Wilson around that and Artopoeus for most of the 4th.

Yeah...with the 3 incumbents i can see white and wheatfall...DMitchel as extra..soley on money tied into him and he can return

Who does work well with Kolo? Lol...our guards basically just cope with it...Vanterpool has progressed a lot..and can play multiple spots..def a keeper but I soooo don't want 3 import oline as it will rape our defence in a huge way

Off this performance I agree. Some one could play them self off next week though I really doubt it. With zach suspended game 1, chase is likely to dress for that game. Then off to the pr. If elgersma doesn’t stick down south we will have a tough decision to make. Best case scenario he sticks down south this year then is in camp next year. I’m a bit concerned that we will put Eli at G and have a lot of issues. I’d be ok with Wallace at G and Eli the 6th. Though vanterpool at g and Randolph at T is better, that’s a bunch of change too so it might not even make us better in the short term. Id di Cooley and vaval, with Sergio and a lber (jones jones Ayers) or a dl (adams woods person). I like vaval as a db and a return man. I’d have him return punts, and split ko returns with Cooley. Cooley would also be a sub pack guy and back up slot. Like we did with gmc and others previously. Cooley and bo in a 2 back set is a lot better option than the meh wr filler we have.

Yeah he has consistently showed poise and confidence in pocket..the instance people seem to be focusing on involved a lot of scrubs and guys likely gone before next preseason game...he may have expected seeing guys doing what was schemed...and they were not executing so yeah..he would look dumb founded...hes on a nice trajectory for being legitimate..has all the tools and also just looks the part

It's just how negatively the dumb horns impact the TV broadcast. It's obnoxious.

No surprise that the kids are better at it.

I was at the game but reading now about the streaming issues, that's a joke. LRSD streams high school games on Youtube and its done by students at LRSD Arts and Tech.

That's a banning.

To me the biggest take from today was Strev. got lots of reps and actual QB reps.....he did run, he did get hit and he did make some throws. His knee appeared to hold-up and he made mostly smart, solid throws...I bet he would like the one RPO back....but overall I was really pleased to see him healthy and look like a real QB, not just a battering ram. With Zach out week "two" I was very pleased with how Strev. looked.

Vaval is an American.

I thought that Strev threw pretty well, then I saw Wilson throw great ball after great ball. Some pocket awareness would go a long way towards elevating his game. Cooley reminded me of Mini Mack Herron... against the Riders 4th team. Collaros got hit on his first 5 throwing plays. Gotta fix that if we want to win the west. Nice to see Brady O being Brady. I didn't see a Bomber returner do much. No deep balls? In pre-season? Come on! No TD's? Yuk! Bomber ball back... Priceless.

Substitute Shay and Smith for Schmeck and Schmuck and we cooking

Soooo nice to be squabbling/talking about the Bombers again. The Grey Cup left a real bad taste in the mouth and I am anxious to see if it's the same old same old or if the issues that cost us the Cup have been addressed.

This. Like **** sakes Mike... Have a drink and have some fun.

QBs looked a lot better than PS last year. Satisfied with their performance in general. Be nice to see some TDs on Friday. On post game show DT askes Mos whats next for this week. Mos is like, we will get the pads on them and do 2 a days couple times make them pop each other. Doug brown gets all excited and Mos says he's joking lol. Can get away with that any more.

Tough. Cuz I’d put Zach 1. He looked great but I’ll not count him. 1. Cooley. He’s just a cfl star in the making. 2. Streveler. He looked good as an actual QB. Was nice to see. 3. Artopoeous. Looked better than Wilson really. HH’s to Evans. Adams. Jaylen Hall. Vaval and Allen. Also thought Pointor looked good against 4th stringers.

Strev is a real QB if you let him be one. Lots of us have said that for years now. He's not just a gimmick. I'm excited for the guy... Everything he went through this past year. Hope he looks incredible during the season opener.

Well the 2019 team was 3-5 with Streveler starting and 4-0 with Collaros starting. So he had some impact. D wasn't getting it done by themselves, they got smacked around pretty bad in majority of games after Nichols went down. Probably don't get to any of the post-19 Grey Cups if you don't host the West Final. Matt Nichols never hosted a West Final. Buck Pierce, Kevin Glenn and Khari Jones hosted 1 East Final each. Collaros has hosted 4. Good to have some perspective. The only comparison that will matter in the end is Dru Brown from 2024 on vs Collaros from 2024 on.

Yeah...more injuries in camp now than when 2 a days..it's stupid Person did a lot of work as a linebacker type in college as well as edge rusher...I did some digging around on him with some peeps I know as I was shocked we signed him...the NFL teams he had cups of coffee with wanted to make him a pure pass rush specialist and size up..he balked...so up he came...he if gets the opportunity is gonna be real good... Vaval is Canadian? Even better if we use him as a KR and depth DB

That's because we have Thomas and Schmekel plus the Brit off the edge.

Myron Mitchell looks fine at receiver. Should never be out there to return. Think our starting receivers will be D Mitchell, Schoen, White, Demski, Clercius. M Mitchell, Wheatfall, Sterns battling for a spot maybe...but none of them can return. Sterns had 13 college returns at 5 yard average. Might want to brush up on that skill if he wants to make the team.

Me too...threat of fake...or actual fake

Much prefer qb holder to personally. Riders kick off blocking has kicked our cover teams ass

Thats a Milligan style int...MOP

We missing so many plays lol. Not the bombers but us the viewer. So many.

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Will there be a passing of the scarf ceremony? As always, I'll show myself out.