Bombers at BC SUCKS GDT

[Mike]

Just now, Super Duper Negatron said:

Wasn't Peterson the backup?

That’s what I was getting at. He had 0 career touches before last week.

[Booch]

1 minute ago, Mike said:

Kyrie Wilson had as many tackles as Schoen and Wheatfall today. 

Ayers and J Jones would make us a better defence

[Super Duper Negatron]

1 minute ago, Mike said:

That’s what I was getting at. He had 0 career touches before last week.

Oh sorry I thought you meant zero in the game.

[JuranBoldenRules]

4 minutes ago, Mike said:

5 if we take away mop up duty and I don’t see the purpose in changing our OL up to give a rookie RB 5 meaningful touches.

MCI could’ve backed him up. 0 touches? So what. That’s what our backup last week had too. 

Our offense is so thin in terms of Canadian depth.  You'd have insert someone taking BO off.  And we basically only have Americans who are at game health.  Otherwise you're running a O with 6 OL, 6 receivers and 2 running backs.  I don't know who they have to be prepped to play both ways, but would be kind of nuts to get stuck playing either Chris-Ike or a 6th OL every play with a couple injuries.  Demski's ankle is on borrowed time, Clercius is already dinged, Schoen is fresh off ACL.

Really need to think on Ayres IMO.  I also don't know what Kyrie Wilson brings at this point.  Don't think we need both those guys especially as we get a couple Canadians back in upcoming weeks who are strong special teams players.

Edited 4 hours ago by JuranBoldenRules

[Super Duper Negatron]

2 minutes ago, Mike said:

Kyrie Wilson had as many tackles as Schoen and Wheatfall today. 

I....forgot Wilson was even on the team. Gross.

[rebusrankin]

We've given up 34 points or 17 per game, so I don't think they make changes on D but it feels like they would be better if they took off one of Wilson or Ayers and gave J.Jones or Pearson a shot. Actually Vaughters hasn't done much either.

[Goalie]

I thought Bryant and Randolph were more of a problem than Wallace honestly. Vanterpool for Randolph. Bryant had a bad night also. Willie and Vaughters ain’t it on D either. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Goalie

[Nolby]

18 minutes ago, Mike said:

What? Why?

When your beer is full and the social is ending, you dont put your beer down, you crush that mother ******

[Booch]

We are 2-0 which is good...we have some issues and holes in lineup...and easily fixable

BUT....the crappy part is that we all know how Osh rolls and since we won...he will stick to status quo...and we all know how that ends up...

He won't make the necessary changes to make a good team...a better team...a major flaw in my opinion

[Tracker]

22 minutes ago, Mike said:

What? Why?

Making a point as well as giving the O=line, which struggled tonight, more work.

12 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

We've given up 34 points or 17 per game, so I don't think they make changes on D but it feels like they would be better if they took off one of Wilson or Ayers and gave J.Jones or Pearson a shot. Actually Vaughters hasn't done much either.

Having the offence sustain drives and give the defence a breather would also help.

[JuranBoldenRules]

5 minutes ago, Goalie said:

I thought Bryant and Randolph were more of a problem than Wallace honestly. Vanterpool for Randolph. Bryant had a bad night also. Willie and Vaughters ain’t it on D either. 

7 yards a carry to 4.7 yards a carry by our running backs.  Pass protection went from perfect to near zero clean pockets tonight.

Not blaming Wallace, but there was really no reason to mess with success.

[Noeller]

Wallace was fine... It was the whole of the line that was worse, not one individual part. 

[BBlink]

Just now, Noeller said:

Wallace was fine... It was the whole of the line that was worse, not one individual part. 

I don't completely disagree. Thought Wallace was okay. But Vanterpool is better, and to your point, makes it easier on Kolo in the middle. A bit of a multiplier bonus there. 

[Tracker]

5 minutes ago, Booch said:

We are 2-0 which is good...we have some issues and holes in lineup...and easily fixable

BUT....the crappy part is that we all know how Osh rolls and since we won...he will stick to status quo...and we all know how that ends up...

He won't make the necessary changes to make a good team...a better team...a major flaw in my opinion

That, IMO, is the critical job of the head coach. It is also why we we lost three, count 'em, three Grey Cups in a row. It wasn't an act of God, it was a dereliction of duty.

[voodoochylde]

12 minutes ago, Goalie said:

I thought Bryant and Randolph were more of a problem than Wallace honestly. Vanterpool for Randolph. Bryant had a bad night also. Willie and Vaughters ain’t it on D either. 

The problem is the domino effect when you start making changes on the offensive line.  In isolation, Wallace was fine but on the whole, the unit struggled.  Was that the change or was it guys simply struggling tonight?

To me, it didn’t make a lot of sense to make changes to an offensive line that had exceptional game week before.  I also temper that with the understanding we had a **** TONNE of time to prepare for BC in the lead up to last week.  Had we not played well, I would have been worried.

[Tracker]

1 minute ago, BBlink said:

I don't completely disagree. Thought Wallace was okay. But Vanterpool is better, and to your point, makes it easier on Kolo in the middle. A bit of a multiplier bonus there. 

I am not a football coach but it looked to me that our guards were trying to cover for a lousy Kolankowski.

[JuranBoldenRules]

1 minute ago, voodoochylde said:

The problem is the domino effect when you start making changes on the offensive line.  In isolation, Wallace was fine but on the whole, the unit struggled.  Was that the change or was it guys simply struggling tonight?

It didn’t make a lot of sense to make changes to an offensive line that had exceptional game week before.  I also temper that with the understanding we had a **** TONNE of time to prepare for BC in the lead up to last week.  Had we not played well, I would have been worried.

And would you rather have Vanterpool at LG (for 70 snaps on O) with Wallace and Eli in reserve or Wallace starting, Eli in reserve and Kyrie Wilson on the field for 30 snaps on D?

There's no real logical way to justify dicking around with the OL when it's basically the heart of the team.  It stops beating, you're dead.  You can figure out how to deal with a deficit at WIL or field corner or WR...not at LG or any OL spot.

[rebusrankin]

Sad thing is MOS will not makes changes unless there are injuries.

Go back to the game one OL. Try J.Jones for Wilson. Put in Pearson for Ayers so you have a rotation at DE. Oline is better, Zach and the offense are likely better. D likely gets better too.

[Noeller]

Here's hoping Brady is back next week and this is all a cow's opinion....

[Booch]

20 minutes ago, Tracker said:

That, IMO, is the critical job of the head coach. It is also why we we lost three, count 'em, three Grey Cups in a row. It wasn't an act of God, it was a dereliction of duty.

Bingo

[Jets]

1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Our offense is so thin in terms of Canadian depth.  You'd have insert someone taking BO off.  And we basically only have Americans who are at game health.  Otherwise you're running a O with 6 OL, 6 receivers and 2 running backs.  I don't know who they have to be prepped to play both ways, but would be kind of nuts to get stuck playing either Chris-Ike or a 6th OL every play with a couple injuries.  Demski's ankle is on borrowed time, Clercius is already dinged, Schoen is fresh off ACL.

Really need to think on Ayres IMO.  I also don't know what Kyrie Wilson brings at this point.  Don't think we need both those guys especially as we get a couple Canadians back in upcoming weeks who are strong special teams players.

Eli at slotback

[Colin Unger]

2 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

We've given up 34 points or 17 per game, so I don't think they make changes on D but it feels like they would be better if they took off one of Wilson or Ayers and gave J.Jones or Pearson a shot. Actually Vaughters hasn't done much either.

Even less points if you subtract garbage time points. 

[17to85]

People are happy to make excuses for him.... but Zach really needs to change the way he plays. He doesn't have the arm he used to to take the risks he does.

[Brandon]

I just watched the game,  that 2nd and 3rd quarter on O was very stinky.    Poor execution all around by many guys.    I didn't mind the play selection ,  it was just bad o-line , a few bad drops,  bad Zach.... everything looked very pre season like.  It seemed like when BC was able to stop the run that the Bombers had zero answer.  

Zach looks as bad as he did in the Grey Cup and last season.   Those lame duck ints were completely unnecessary.   That first pic was underthrown in double coverage.... why?   That 2nd pic was forced for no reason at all considering we had a big lead and didn't need to force a throw deep in our end so late in the game.    I don't think his arm is shot like Matt Nichols but he definitely is having issues in his decision making and apparently his execution.   

The secondary did make a few mistakes but for the most part they swarmed and I really liked what I saw out of them.  Same with Jones and Griffin at lb those guys were noticed on the field.  

D-line I specifically watched Jake Thomas for this game to see if maybe people on here such as myself are over exaggerating his play.    I encourage anyone with PVR to rewatch the game and keep and eye on him.   That guy was big brothered all night long and was comically out muscled and tossed around on nearly each play.  He was also the guy who completely bit on the play action with Masoli that gave them one of their only positive plays.   I watched Thomas run full steam ahead and crash and bounce back several times.   The only time he was near the QB was when he was tossed around like a losing sumo fighter and he would somersault somewhat near Masoli.    He was on the field way to much tonight and while Lawson wasn't an all star.  At least Lawson wasn't pushed around and he made the one big play that resulted in an interception and he at least plugged the lane at times.   Thomas was a pylon blowing in the wind... just completely useless.  

 

3 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

People are happy to make excuses for him.... but Zach really needs to change the way he plays. He doesn't have the arm he used to to take the risks he does.

Zach can not play like a vintage Danny Mac gunslinger... I'd like to see him throw on the run more.