wbbfan Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 1 minute ago, johnzo said: When it's a safety who leads the team in tackles, that is definitely an indicator of something... It can be, or it can not be. Hefney for instance wasn’t a S, but put up a lot of tackles while being one of the very best dbs in the league. You can’t evaluate tackles in a vacuum. I broke down in depth the difference between awes tackles and biggies tackles last year. Awe put up more tackles head to head, but was making tackles on average almost 10 yards from the line. Where as biggies average depth was under 4. Or like maruo leading us in teams tackles then getting benched for the year. Tackles are the worst individual stat in football and maybe all of sports. 2 minutes ago, Mike said: Jaylen Hall, WR out of WKU signed to the roster 6’3 180 guy productive in his one year at wku. Also scored a td on a hand full of punt returns. It’s not easy to walk into a new team as a wr and be that productive. Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 30 minutes ago, wbbfan said: It can be, or it can not be should've been more clear. I think if a safety leads the team in tackles, like Lysack did in 2005, that safety probably played on a pretty shitty defence. Tracker and Goalie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 12 hours ago, wbbfan said: Tackles are the worst individual stat in football and maybe all of sports. Tackles and +/-... worst in all sports because they need a hell of a lot of context to tell you anything. wbbfan, MrFreakzilla and BomberBall 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 12 hours ago, johnzo said: should've been more clear. I think if a safety leads the team in tackles, like Lysack did in 2005, that safety probably played on a pretty shitty defence. Yes and no. Run fits in the cfl frequently involve the s/2 dbs now. It is possible to have a S create a ton of positive defensive plays by getting tackles. It is easy for bad dbs to rack up tackles though. 57 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Tackles and +/-... worst in all sports because they need a hell of a lot of context to tell you anything. plus minus as well for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Dublanco showing up at the combine...Should be an iteresting watch...This guy will go early in the draft....we may not get a shot unless we can swing a deal....Walters will be on it depending on what he sees from this guy wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stickem said: Dublanco showing up at the combine...Should be an iteresting watch...This guy will go early in the draft....we may not get a shot unless we can swing a deal....Walters will be on it depending on what he sees from this guy The CFL Combine is on this weekend in Waterloo, here is a link to the posted results page. https://www.cfl.ca/combine/2024-invitational-combine/ Top 5 https://www.cfl.ca/2024/03/08/invitational-combine-leaderboard-top-5-from-every-drill/ Edited March 9 by Fatty Liver JCon, Tracker and wbbfan 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 2 hours ago, Stickem said: Dublanco showing up at the combine...Should be an iteresting watch...This guy will go early in the draft....we may not get a shot unless we can swing a deal....Walters will be on it depending on what he sees from this guy the more top end names added the better, increases our chances of getting a good ol prospect. Ly by the time we got to pick potential starting players were already gone. Jesse and wbbfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 On 2024-03-08 at 8:34 PM, wbbfan said: It can be, or it can not be. Hefney for instance wasn’t a S, but put up a lot of tackles while being one of the very best dbs in the league. You can’t evaluate tackles in a vacuum. I broke down in depth the difference between awes tackles and biggies tackles last year. Awe put up more tackles head to head, but was making tackles on average almost 10 yards from the line. Where as biggies average depth was under 4. Or like maruo leading us in teams tackles then getting benched for the year. Tackles are the worst individual stat in football and maybe all of sports. 6’3 180 guy productive in his one year at wku. Also scored a td on a hand full of punt returns. It’s not easy to walk into a new team as a wr and be that productive. Tackle stats require a lot of context for sure. On 2024-03-09 at 8:49 AM, 17to85 said: Tackles and +/-... worst in all sports because they need a hell of a lot of context to tell you anything. I agree. Like most stats a deeper dive should usually be done. I do agree that the two you singled out are big time proof of that. wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 (edited) 4 hours ago, GCn20 said: Tackle stats require a lot of context for sure. I agree. Like most stats a deeper dive should usually be done. I do agree that the two you singled out are big time proof of that. I would love to see the cfl do in game advanced/specialized/charts/ngs stats in a few areas for the game of the week. Yards after contact, tackle depth, qb hurries/hits, player speeds, ball velocity, average separation, play/formation break downs charts, yards per target, tackle % etc. it would cost too much to get that going for every game (since we barely had stats at all half of last year). But I don’t think it would be too much to have one more stats guy and the equipment with tsn to do it once a week. It would certainly add to pre game, post game and half time segments. Edited March 11 by wbbfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 3 minutes ago, wbbfan said: I would love to see the cfl do in game advanced/specialized/charts/ngs stats in a few areas for the game of the week. Yards after contact, tackle depth, qb hurries/hits, player speeds, ball velocity, average separation, play/formation break downs charts, yards per target, tackle % etc. it would cost too much to get that going for every game (since we barely had stats at all half of last year). But I don’t think it would be too much to have one more stats guy and the equipment with tsn to do it once a week. It would certainly add to pre game, post game and half time segments. I wish CFLdb were still the site it used to be. Used to have all these advanced stats available. wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 1 minute ago, wbbfan said: I would love to see the cfl do in game advanced/specialized/charts/ngs stats in a few areas for the game of the week. Yards after contact, tackle depth, qb hurries/hits, player speeds, ball velocity, average separation, play/formation break downs charts, yards per target, tackle % etc. I would be happy if the CFL could just share the stats. Noeller, wbbfan, HardCoreBlue and 5 others 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnipegGordo Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 (edited) Bombers sign receiver Isaiah Coulter. He was a 2020 5th round draft pick. This one is interesting as it was reported he signed with the UFL 4 days ago. https://pfnewsroom.com/news/dc-defenders-continue-to-sign-wrs-add-isaiah-coulter/ They also signed DB James Campbell. He tried out for Seattle last year. Edited March 11 by WinnipegGordo Noeller, JCon, Piggy 1 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, WinnipegGordo said: Bombers sign receiver Isaiah Coulter. He was a 2020 5th round draft pick. This one is interesting as it was reported he signed with the UFL 4 days ago. https://pfnewsroom.com/news/dc-defenders-continue-to-sign-wrs-add-isaiah-coulter/ They also signed DB James Campbell. He tried out for Seattle last year. That makes 15 Import receivers competing for Bailey's old job. Tracker, wbbfan and WinnipegGordo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 3 hours ago, Fatty Liver said: That makes 15 Import receivers competing for Bailey's old job. Depth positions will be open too. wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 18 hours ago, WinnipegGordo said: Bombers sign receiver Isaiah Coulter. He was a 2020 5th round draft pick. This one is interesting as it was reported he signed with the UFL 4 days ago. https://pfnewsroom.com/news/dc-defenders-continue-to-sign-wrs-add-isaiah-coulter/ They also signed DB James Campbell. He tried out for Seattle last year. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/isaiah-coulter/3200434f-5516-0662-8b6d-a1ee4723ab0a looks like a bit more of a project but with tons and tons of upside. Might be a guy worth keeping around and coaching up if he doesn’t make the team. Noeller and Fatty Liver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigg jay Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 18 hours ago, WinnipegGordo said: Bombers sign receiver Isaiah Coulter. He was a 2020 5th round draft pick. This one is interesting as it was reported he signed with the UFL 4 days ago. https://pfnewsroom.com/news/dc-defenders-continue-to-sign-wrs-add-isaiah-coulter/ They also signed DB James Campbell. He tried out for Seattle last year. And released two days ago. https://www.si.com/fannation/ufl/news/dc-defenders-release-players-first-wave-ufl-roster-cuts Quote D.C. has let go of another five wide receivers just days after releasing Preston Williams, including notable recent pickups like Coulter and Harley. The two pass catchers didn't last very long on the Defenders' roster, despite their recent NFL experience. WinnipegGordo and wbbfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 2 hours ago, bigg jay said: And released two days ago. https://www.si.com/fannation/ufl/news/dc-defenders-release-players-first-wave-ufl-roster-cuts May have asked for his release when the Bombers came calling. rebusrankin, Stickem and wbbfan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 20 hours ago, Fatty Liver said: That makes 15 Import receivers competing for Bailey's old job. Hopefully one of them is our next Schoen. wbbfan and rebusrankin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnipegGordo Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 Bombers signed DB Antony Witherstone. He was released from the UFL a couple of days ago. JCon, Noeller and bb1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, WinnipegGordo said: Bombers signed DB Antony Witherstone. He was released from the UFL a couple of days ago. he was on our negotiation list as well, (as was Nichols when we signed him) fingers crossed - it would be nice to have a db with a bit of size JCon and Noeller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 Amazing two years ago we had no idea who dalton Schoen on. Just think about that. Such a dynamic receiver. wbbfan and rebusrankin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue85gold Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 12 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Amazing two years ago we had no idea who dalton Schoen on. Just think about that. Such a dynamic receiver. That's one thing I love about the CFL. You never know who from the long list of off-season signings will be an all-star. rebusrankin and wbbfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchy Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 The first videos of Shoen I saw posted here, the first thing I thought was that he was a CFL type reciever, had that look- body position, timing passes, great hands. Didn't fit the mould of a NFL reciever, but thought he may be one of those types of guys suited for this game with talent but overlooked down south. There's a lot of guys up here with enough talent to play down south, but just don't fit with what the NFL looks for. wbbfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 https://3downnation.com/2024/03/13/john-hodges-2024-cfl-mock-draft-1-0/ Hodges mock draft. I can’t see us taking 2 FBs in the first 3 rounds. But I’d love to get a versatile fb who can block play teams and do some power running. Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted March 13 Report Share Posted March 13 1 minute ago, wbbfan said: https://3downnation.com/2024/03/13/john-hodges-2024-cfl-mock-draft-1-0/ Hodges mock draft. I can’t see us taking 2 FBs in the first 3 rounds. But I’d love to get a versatile fb who can block play teams and do some power running. And you would spend draft capital in the first 3 rounds to do this? Or, you would wait until later in the draft to fill out your special teams depth and add an American FB to do some blocking and power running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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