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again, this discussion isn't about Wheatfall. It's about the fact that we use only 2 americans at skill positions on offence. I had to pause when thinking about that initially because of how ridiculous it is. You can replace a guy like Wheatfall super easily if you want to, but for whatever reason this team decided that they only needed 2 american skill players on offence and then proceeded to NOT draft any offensive skill guys anyway. It just bottles the mind...

I hear the popcorn sellers are expecting the worst in Ottawa come Friday.

Equally as boggling a question as why do we go 3 Americans at linebacker all season when drafting the crap out of the position? There is no cohesion between the roster usage and the acquisition of players by management

Clercius has been healthy, active and playing the last 3 games. He's only been targeted twice in those games (both completions) but sure it's his fault that he's barely being used.

If you were in charge Bud Grant would still be waiting for his shot.

Those that can, do, those who can't teach. Those who can't teach teach gym.

wheatfall is playing well, but he’s not the answer here and not a premium guy. Hes a slightly different skill set than wilson but he’s the same role guy.

The Wheatfall narrative continues to baffle. By all accounts he was a reasonable dude when he was here, but if you are going 3 NIs which the Bombers did, you aren't going to take him over Wilson or White so where does he fit in? If the Bombers went 3 Imports he would be a serviceable 3rd guy (which he really is behind Smith and Lawler in Hamilton) but he was here for a season and a half and his production isn't too far off then and now... 2 really nice games, a few games he completely disappeared and a bunch of serviceable games in the middle. As other people are saying... you SHOULD be able to scout another one of those guys and maybe hit a home run. Maybe Singer is that guy but as of right now it's looking like we'll never know. The Elks brought in 2 of them with Luther and Cephus. Argos brought in Kahmann.

even hodge made light of this. we need to get off the 3rd canadian and give singer a chance. this. especially when the draft had solid developmental guys available in the mid rounds. the guys we did pick were tcf at best. but we really needed the two more lbers we picked in front of that tim white is a good addition, but he’s not the guy to build a wr core around. same with demski. We need the wr you build around. Wr core is one of the most important position groups in the cfl. And we don’t have the bedrock guy.

I just looked at the numbers. Opposing QBs are not having these extraordinary games against us. They're completing at or below their yearly averages in yards and completion percentage. Our focus is ovbiously on the Bombers, but scoring is at an incredible clip right now against all teams. The bigger problem is that our offence isn't keeping up with the pack.

This way of thinking has been proven wrong a million times in every sport.

yikes gotta be done for the year for allen. Really sucks. We are paper thin at DB.

Random fact...for a team believing they can successfully be a 3 Canadian wr team..their #2 Canadian is averaging 2.5 catches a game for 34 yards and no tds..and their #3 is averaging 1.4 catches for 13 yards..0 tds The other exceptional talent we kept in 6 games..Corcoran average 0.5 catches a game for 4.2 yards..0 tds So essentially our 4th and 5th recievers are combined give us an average of 2 catches for 23.5 yards a game and no scores. Let that soak in as to why our offense is so uninspiring and how brain dead our coaching is. The fact we have done nothing to adress that..or let Clercius take over one spot...at minimum tells you all you need to know about Osh

How do people know that it's the receivers that are the problem.... Vs the coordinator.... Vs the QBs.... Vs the OL.... Vs "the entire offense as a whole is a problem".... ?

They didn't try because they opted for 3 non-imports.... You think guys like Cobb or Corcoran are better than any random American off the street pet alone what may or may not have been available in free agency? Seriously the depth chart is written in pen when training camp opens for this team.

If Allen becomes available soon, does he get into the line up at all? Haven't heard much about him since his injury, so hopefully he's still in the teams plans.

Kenny Lawler was that guy. Can't 100% blame Walters as it was a choice between him and Schoen and Schoen was lost to injury. However, this offseason White was the only impact guy and we needed more..still need more. Paging KW.

yeah Stan wasnt as bad...still not better than adequate tho..can he up his game more...Guess we shall see as we know Osh wont sit him...I think flip flopping him and Broxton makes sense tho...If anything to see Our interior tho needs a tweak....Elsbury just isnt pushing the needle and as an import he needs to be.

Keep in mind this is a 2 way street. For all we know, KW put an offer out already and Geno said thanks, but no thanks. It's a pet peeve of mine when people talk about signing players like the players automatically say yes to offers that are presented to them...

I don't dislike any of our CDN receivers or Daniels, but as others mentioned before me, what I don't like is that we don't draft receivers. Yet we continue to draft an abundance of Lb's. We used some of our premium draft picks on Lb's but yet we don't generally start CDN Lb's. I don't hate the idea of three Canadian receivers, but it seems disjointed, that we haven't spent some draft picks trying to get the best Canadians available to us at that position. I don't think I would care as much if our defence and our LB core was tops in the league, but it's not, not even middle pack.... Or maybe without Youngers schemes they would be??

I’m not arguing for our receiving core - it’s weak. Simply that Wheatfall was given every opportunity to take over a starting position last year and disappeared. Some went out and replaced with White. We should absolutely be starting another American, but Wheatfall played his way off the team.

Our passing attack is anemic.

So if you lock into 3 NI WR, why in the world do you not spend draft capital on some in the 26 draft?

Wheatfall is the type of guy you should be easily able to replace from scouting. But we aren't giving anyone a chance. It was ordained from the get go that we use 3 nis at receiver and white and Wilson are the only Americans.

Blue Bombers 2027 Season Tickets page is up and clearest indicator yet that the field dimension changes are full speed ahead https://www.bluebombers.com/2027-season-tickets/ My seats in 225 looks like they are moving from straddling the goal line to back of the end zone

Mahomes would have been a great one if his main offensive coach wasn’t a 500 pound ogre who played football when the edges of the ball were still squared.

You can see why we match up well against Ottawa. We can't stop the run and they don't bother trying to run. I don't know what happened to Greg Bell, the guy was no Blink or anything but he was a shifty scarback who could hurt you in space or if he got to the second level. But he's been hit hard by the Ottawa free agent curse and he looks like he's running in cement out there. This is gonna sounds weird but I think Maier is underrated. Put him on an otherwise solid team and he'd game manage some wins. But you can't take a B- quarterback like him and win with him throwing the ball 40+ times a game. You need something else going on on O.

I'd have a lot more time for this argument if we hadn't seen O'Shea make sub-optimal roster moves for his entire time here. I mean he had to be told to make a move at QB way back and hey, it helped. I like O'Shea but he's shown he can't make the hard choices and tell vets to sit down.

and odd/dumb we let one go..Jackson...Or maybe he decided to leave...Wouldnt blame him

Oh that’ll fix it

Keric Wheatfall would have helped us this year. That should tell us all we need to know about KW and the scouts ability to find receiver talent. Keric is a pretty replaceable guy and the fact we haven't is pretty telling.

Best in preseason? That doesnt mean much. My old coach, a former Bomber, attends practice regularly, and we chat often, he says that both Singer and Frederickson (before his release) were not practicing well and struggling when given reps. This was about a month ago, but his thoughts were neither guy should be kept around.

I thought Bryant had one of his better games last weekend. Still not good, but fewer whiffs. The interior seemed to give up a lot of pressure. Broxton has been our best ol, but he hasn’t been dominating. I wonder if he’d be better back in the left side?

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yup...Some guys may not wanna come here, just as some may wanna come Tho in my opinion...we won last week...but not in a way to give any optimism...so you can bet your life there will be zero changes...even tho we desperately need some Good thing it was Ottawa in all honesty as any other team likely we would have lost, and coulda been the start of a long winless skid...Next week may be it anyway if we just roll in status quo and look unprepared to start again

Pretty sure there is nothing JT can offer WJ..Ceresna..and Lawson..nor would he be much use teaching a Reese ..Jenkins..Dixon..Fletcher anything in regards to technique or skill off the edge Even a young interior guy..Thomas had little if any technique..no hand skills. How he gonna teach and show anything he didnt posses?

Walters was involved in scouting & personnel under Joe Mack. Then became Asst GM under him. I don't believe anyone but Wade Miller thought he was really qualified to be GM but he came cheap. I don't think anyone else who would have been a star candidate wanted to come here at the time. I remember the rumours that greg Stubler was coming here but turned down the head coaching job. No idea if he was also offered the GM position.

I believe it was a throw away comment by MOS one day. No reason to think he'll ever be a GM or even that he would like to be.

A potential future GM? A guy coaching the DL & is a realtor in New Brunswick who hasn't worked a day in personnel for the Bombers ios a furure GM? Just curious, what gives him a keen eye for business? I'm not saying it isn't true but there's been no mention of him doing any scouting or personnel work with Winnipeg.

The aging curve for Cornerbacks is pretty unforgiving. Look at what has happened in Saskatchewan with Milligan and Campbell

at this point bringing in Eugene Levy would be an upgrade on some of the guys we have right now....

FWIW: If the DAZN contract will exclude TSN from broadcasting Saturday night games and the idea of paying more for yet another service irks you, PM me for a possible solution.

All starters...and they here cause they give us a chance to win..how many times we heard that? Yet no starter gets yanked for a different "starter" for poor play...or no "starter" gets to play when a starter is injured or knicked...we will play a less than 100 percent guy over these other starters...or just bump up a guy like Kelly or Ball to take starter snaps...make that make sense Thats why I been saying that half the garbage that comes out of that smug face is horse crap b.s...and shouldn't even be taken as serious...it its just garble babbling of a person with no clue...take your pick

Wasn't it the mafia who championed the "Next man up" mantra for replacments any way? The idea that no one would be better than Moxey, our 5th wr, etc is hilarious.

This stupid argument is voided by looking at Smith.. dude kills it every time he gets snaps and he only started because of injury... No one is saying moving pieces makes the team a top team, but it could make us better.... And isn't that the goal? You make moves and improve overall. That's what happened in 2019. They made moves, a lot with in-house pieces and suddenly the defense was ferocious. Just build the roster properly for a start and let's get an accurate picture of what's there. Like if the receivers on the pr aren't better than a bottom of the barrel Canadian guy why are they even in town?

That crunch on ZC is no way on Stan..he may have called out the free backside guy..and nobody responded..he takes that guy..then the inside guy comes in even faster for a free shot. ZC too is to blame..a vet of his tenure should have saw that and either adjusted...or got on his horse on a sprint out...doesn't help either that he rarely even reads the side of field pre snap that the ball isnt intended to go to. Bryant has deserved some of the British this yr...not all...and def not that crunch on ZC

The problem with Collaros is his belief that his strength is still his deep ball. It isnt. And hasnt been for about 4 years. He just refuses to change and the coaching staff seem to think all his under thrown balls are fine.

He is tremendous on teams; I mean, really exceptional. If he were turned loose instead of playing disciplined and smart, he could pile up a crazy number of teams tackles. I had hoped that this would translate to tremendous D play eventually; his skills really pop and they should shine on D. But with limited reps, they haven't. We also gave up on diversifying his skill set. I wish we had continued developing him as a S and a wall wil/nickle db. Though maybe he just didn't take to it. I think he would still be an upgrade at wil/mac. Woodbey, ayers, and smith would be tremendous together. @booch, I am impressed beyond belief at how well Smith played Sam last night. Holy cow, that kid is more than just a ratio breaker. No matter what we ask of him, he goes out and does it. He picks stuff up at lightning speed and plays the game fast and physical. We should be trying to lock him up to an extension quickly. Woodbey has that versatility that we haven't had since BA and Biggie were in their primes. He can play at all levels and do it well. The 2 deep S look is horrible. Idk why we are forcing it soo much. Or why we don't just go with a guy like Smith and an imp. Its a free spot on the bingo card. Kelly is a bit limited, but he has the basic function of most canadian S/DBs in the league. He's the only one who should see any time on D, ever. And even that should be heavily limted. The kid has every thing you could ask for. Tangibles and intangibles. If we don't raise him up soon, he will be doing it for some one else before long. Money, and the will to improve. Thats about it. Great write up by booch, I'm gonna add that I love the little bits of development I see from Reese. I liked him dropping back some, and I love how he plays. I think he's playing more reps with too little strategy for this point in his career, but I really look forward to seeing what he can do next year. The OL needs a shake up as bad, if not worse, then the secondary. I think that is our worst position group by a mile.

So halfway through the season the team is somehow 5-4. Basically 3 more wins to lock up a playoff spot. 5 more wins probably gives a home playoff game. Remaining games: Week 12 - @Elks Week 13 - vs Als Week 14 - Labour Day Classic Week 15 - Banjo Bowl Week 16 - BYE Week 17 - vs Argos Week 18 - @Als Week 19 - vs Stamps Week 20 - @Elks Week 21 - @Lions No more OTT, no more HAM. 2x Elks, 2x Als, 2x Riders. Could be tough for this team to scrape out 3 more wins. They're going to have to start figuring their **** out. Next four weeks could be brutal.

Ill always love Sals. I dont care what anyone says. Still a great and cheap breakfast spot. Probably still my favorite pancakes in the city and their cinnamon buns are awesome aswell. Burgers are great too. Love them Nip's!