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BC just re-signed 3 guys that they cut in camp and didn't keep around much during season. Pool is a lot shallower with expanded NFL rosters and no restrictions on practice rosters plus increased pay.

Kyle Walters’ kid just committed to the Bisons.

Some Riderfans have convinced themselves they're on a one year run, they'll deal with the future of the QB position after Harris wins them the Cup. The stars are aligning perfectly over Sask. Oh ****! It's a meteor!

Wonder if he gonna waste another yr in 2025 like he did in 2023...waiting...not earning a penny...if he doesn't make a roster out of camp He gonna be 27 going into next season..would project as a project at best most likely...can't see a team investing much time or money into him especially when there are tons of guys just like him churned out of NCAA ball...younger...and have played u.s ball since 5 yrs old.

Some positions also really benefit from a 2nd go round and year. It’s more optimal to have guys on the pr, but with that limited it’s just good business to bring some guys back. You also some times just have more talent than you do spots. We could bring back a couple of the lbers cut in camp this tc. Thomas got picked up by the ALs, but petrishen and gemmel would be nice. Moses depends on health. Be hard to do better than last year at lber. Maybe Coleman too, iirc he was a legit T who kinda suffered for reps. Grainger I think will Be back and I like that too. We often seem to recycle camp dbs into the next year, idk if that’s ever worked out for us. Db is especially in our system is kind of a quick make it or miss position. But it’s also hard like you said to get 20-30 db bodies in camp. If a guy brings some thing you like and has the upside makes some sense to fill out with them.

sometimes we value certain things way too much over actual talent and ability.....can't be denied....and should be nipped in the bud now after 3 consecutive yrs of failing....

So here's the disconnect... you see it as inability to find better players, everyone else sees it as reluctance to tell vets to go away. Best DT combo the team used all year was woods and adams (where did they get those guys again?) Yet they stuck with the idea they needed a Canadian at the position so it was lots of Thomas.

you just shut it....for the love of god....hahahah

how I look at it is that this crap he spews about they all here cause they are starter caliber...and because they give us a chance to win ...they here in the building for a reason.....is something he doesnt even believe in himself....as he shows he rarely lets a guy get a chance to play unless someone has had a limb fall off....ZC finger almost fell off....but just wasn't enough So if he doesn't even believe it...why should fans?? exactly this....when guys are given the chance to play they can do great things....goes for the second and third stringers too...no?....and if they have no faith in them doing something great...why they on the roster??....Contradicts his previous statements that they all here cause they give us a chance to win...so why wont you play the healthy guys over an injured..... argos also let their best players play....and will yank a gy for sucking...even if it rufffles said guy's sucking feathers...as we have seen with some squabbling on their sidelines...that being said....it has allowed them to win the 2 cups theyhave been in recently.....maybe after being taught 2 straight lessons from them, maybe we took some notes???

They all do, we just notice when the Bombers do it because we don't follow the other teams training camps as closely.

I would say as far as the Bombers go, we are under exposed. We used to get good TC reports and things like that but now we get next to nothing. We mainly just get to see guys like Jackson waste a roster spot on game day and have to speculate as to why. Was he doing something in practice that showed promise and we just never got to hear about it or see it?

Yeah a limited Thomas is fine, and Wilson if healthy is a good player (I'd move on because he never stays healthy). It's Bighill they really just need to cut ties with and remove the temptation. He's never healthy and even when he is he isn't good enough any more.

Two of about a zillion reasons why the ncaa is a garbage organization.

I dread this topic. I feel I’m gonna check one time and the bombers have signed Thomas.

Just finished his 3rd year of eligibility.

He is. He’s quite a bit older, so not sure how much eligibility he has left. Wade Miller’s kid played high school football too, but he was a pretty average player.

Just to do a fly by here, I don't think it was primarily this, ie.,starting JT for ratio help although it obviously helps for other positions. Based on the things MOS has said and demonstrated with certain players, I think regularly starting and giving reps to JT is the difficulty MOS has with tough decisions needed for players who have given so much to the BB's but aren't the best option at times to help put the team in the best position to be successful.

I was thinking about that during Grey Cup when the Argo's re-added Robert Priester to their active roster. He's a prime example of a recycled DB who has bounced around, going on and off the active & practice rosters for us (twice), Edmonton and Toronto but never seems to really stick. He's been cut & brought back like 15-20 times between the 3 teams - his transaction page on the CFL site is really long for a guy who's only played 28 games in 6 years.

thing is...you can start 2 other guys who are better than the Canadians...and if you cant find any...theres a big problem in your scouting and recruiting

we had to at DB and for a certain extent receiver.....but Dline...LB....We just ignore the fact we are weak and sub par because Osh has his fav's....his perception the guys are top rate.....and thats that.....until his mind set changes somewhat...it will be yr after yr of 2..3 questionable guys rostered....excessive use of additional Cdn's even when not needed and not the best option and long in the tooth vets...who server next to no purpose anymore other than blocking/developing new blood....just something we gonna have to deal with as long as he is here....sure we had success in 2 cup wins....put together a couple of all-time great reg. season records....but that was when the top line talent was still top line and best in the league...3....yrs ago now....we don't have that anymore and didn't properly re-stock the cupboard....and in the instances where we added a body or two it was out of necessity (season ending injury/guys leaving) not because we chose to go with the younger...better guy with upside. Flame away about my take on it all you want...some of you will as history has shown but we have not managed our roster nor put any forward thinking/progression plan in place for the most part....Hopefully last yr was the start of it and it continues this winter with not re-signing some guys...and going after some legit free-agent guys...even if they have an edge and are a bit nasty....the culture in the room will take care of itself and guys will fall in line....we dont need 46 choir boys

Yup gutsy win for sure. That game winning goal was all effort from JoMo. Great to see. Hopefully this buoys them going forward!

I do wonder how many other teams constantly bring back training camp fodder like we do it seems like it’s happening more and more often in the past year or so

Stanley is a liability. When will the team finally realize it?

Bombers are bringing back receiver Jaylen Hall for another look. Who says the Bombers need to replace Ted? Just bring back all the players from last year's training camp.

If you have a QB who is going to be 39, generally moves the ball between the 20s and then falters and usually has a .500 record, you don't hesistate, you commit.

this seems based on absolutely nothing... Pierce interviewed for head coach roles last season... he took a job in BC this year. i don't get where you figure there is animosity. Goveia also took a promotion... that happens. as for no thank yous... have these moves even been made official? give it time.

I think we were due for a change ...be it management or players......The last Cup loss was a big hint that that should occur....Now how we deal with those changes will dictate what the future is for this club....immediate and long term....We need to give serious thought to who is available coaching wise right now and make our move(s)....Serious plan for FA should be paramount as well and the more immediate task is reupping the guys we want around for 25'....Lots of work for Walters and I know he's up to the tasks at hand ...I hope we're giving some real indepth thought to the quarterbacking for 25' as I think that's the key moving forward...IF a big move is being planned, I hope we make it early and that' where it all starts

Ed Tait had a look at the Bombers' roster last month: HOW THE 2024 BLUE BOMBERS WERE BUILT Trades QB Zach Collaros, 2019, from Toronto OL Pat Neufeld, 2013, from Saskatchewan DT Cam Lawson, 2022, from Montreal CFL free agents OL Stanley Bryant, 2015 (Calgary) Rec Nic Demski, 2018 (Saskatchewan) LB Adam Bighill, 2018 (B.C.) RB Johnny Augustine, 2018 (Edmonton) DE Willie Jefferson, 2019 (Saskatchewan) C Chris Kolankowski, 2020 (Toronto) LS Mike Benson, 2021 (Montreal) LB Brian Cole, 2022 (Edmonton Rec Kenny Lawler, 2023 (Edmonton) K Sergio Castillo, 2023 (Edmonton) DT Miles Fox, 2023 (B.C.) Rec Lucky Whitehead, 2024 (B.C.) LB Tony Jones, 2024 (Edmonton) DB Michael Griffin II, 2024 (Calgary) QB Jake Dolegala, 2024 (B.C.) FB Bailey Feltmate, 2024 (Hamilton) DB Nick Taylor, 2024 (Calgary) OL Eric Lofton, 2024 (Saskatchewan) LB Bryce Notree, 2024 (Montreal) CFL Draft DT Jake Thomas — 2012, Rd 4, 29th overall LB Shayne Gauthier — 2016, Rd 4, 28th overall Rec Drew Wolitarsky — 2017 CFL Supplemental Draft RB Brady Oliveira — 2019, Rd 2, 14th overall OL Tui Eli — 2019, Rd 4, 34th overall DB Nick Hallett — 2019, Rd 7, 61st overall DB Noah Hallett — 2020, Rd 2, 18th overall LB Tanner Cadwallader — 2020, Rd 7, 64th overall OL Liam Dobson — 2021, Rd 1, 3rd overall DB Redha Kramdi — 2021, Rd 2, 16th overall CB Tyrell Ford — 2022, Rd 1, 13th overall DB Jake Kelly — 2023, Rd 2, 15th overall WR Jeremy Murphy — 2023, Rd 3, 26th overall DT Tanner Schmekel — 2023, Rd 4, 35th overall LB Max Charbonneau — 2023, Rd 8, 71st overall Rec Kevens Clercius — 2024, Rd 2, 13th overall FB Michael Chris-Ike — 2024, Rd 2, 14th overall OL Gabe Wallace — 2024, Rd 2, 17th overall DT Kyle Samson — 2024, Rd 2, 20th overall DE Owen Hubert — 2024, Rd 8, 73rd overall CFL Global Draft LB Souleymane Karamoko — 2022, 13th overall P Jamieson Sheahan — 2023, 8th overall LB Fabian Weitz — 2024, 8th overall DE Lucky Ogbevoen — 2024, 17th overall U.S. Scouting S Brandon Alexander, 2017 LB Kyrie Wilson, 2017 QB Chris Streveler, 2018; returned in 2024 DB Deatrick Nichols, 2021 DB Evan Holm, 2022 DB Jamal Parker, 2022 Rec Dalton Schoen, 2022 DE TyJuan Garbutt, 2023 DE Celestin Haba, 2023 DB Tyrique McGhee, 2023 CB Terrell Bonds, 2024 LB Michael Ayers, 2024 WR Keric Wheatfall, 2024 WR Ontaria Wilson, 2024 QB Terry Wilson, 2024 DT Devin Adams, 2024 DB Marquise Bridges, 2024 WR Kody Case, 2024 WR Myron Mitchell, 2024 DL Jason Person, 2024 OL Kendall Randolph, 2024 OL Micah Vanterpool, 2024 DT Jamal Woods, 2024 RB Chris Smith, 2024 OL Chris Walker, 2024 https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/11/15/48-hour-primer-the-build/

It's almost as bad if not worse a meat grinder than the NFL with little regard for anyone...other than $$ Seen a lot of bad stuff...unethical.....at the expense of the athlete yup....I would change a few things...and a lot is changing with the training now and post education prep...thankfully

Knowing what we know now, chasing that American dream isn't worth it.

Ba is one to consider as well. He was solid in Pass cover this year. Awful with tackling, can’t be in a run fit or blitz any more. We really need to keep grooming the next guy. Which comes down to Cole and Kelly. I’d even be happy to use them in packages and together some. Ba would be an excellent guy to be a player coach as well if he’s interested.

What an odd response. No one asked you to change your mind, but it’s weird you would refuse to.

That’s true, unless your an old vet then you get till you can’t walk any more. Though I’ll say Jy n crew did a great job early in the season with the secondary. It took a few weeks for the guys to mesh (and getting karamoko out of heavy rotation) but they really found their groove in the system. Especially the ford kramdi side. The lbers got decent run too, but just because of injury. I expect Cole to take a big step next year, but I could see Ayers taking that step first too.

That would honestly be devastating to me as a fan. Kyrie is in that group also.

He didn’t want out at all. He’s a cancer that is respected by the rangers vets? Weird. Dude blocked trades. Used his modified no trade clause. Didn’t want out of New York at all. That’s why this took so long. It’s weird Anaheim which is about as far as you can get from New York gets him tho. Blocked a Columbus trade is the rumor.

gee....when you look at it like that...and that high turnover ratio to the good....you would think that yeah they would have been like 12 and 6...or better....losers

It's always a great idea to run it back when you can barely muster a .500 season with a +26 turnover ratio.

Huh. It's enough to make one stop believing in Eugenics.

Harris was your best option. So much for this off season being an earthquake type event with qbs moving around. I think Davis Alexander agent blew it. He would have been a sought after commodity in free agency & would have been able to get a more lucrative contract in free agency. Not much out there other than Fajardo.

You can't tell me Schmeckel & Thomas are better than any American options that they have. Then there's Kolankowski at Center....

I remember that quote, because right after he mentioned how he's seen great performances out of guys when they were allowed to be great, or given the opportunity to be great...and it riled me up because the guy who should have been given that opportunity was the MOP/MOC.

While I was walking the dog last night a random memory came up where MOS mentioned post game that ZC deserved to go back into the game after his injury. This got me thinking that a really tough decision for a head coach to make is overriding his undying loyalty, dedication and appreciation to an athlete who has given so much to the organization but he has to sit him or cut him to ensure he puts the team in the best position to be successful. I love MOS in how he has helped bring our organization to be the gold standard it is over the past 5 years but I think this is one area where he really struggles. I can totally understand. It's complex, it's tough but it's part of the gig he signed up for.

I've said this a many times. One can carve out a real nice career in the CFL. 🙂

6 pm start time on TSN 3 (heads up Saturday's game will have an earlier start time 3 pm, and around that time I have some baking to do so I don't think I'll be able to start that thread) Colin's not hurt he's just scratched

Bc did.

I assume Mark Stone will only be available for the one game final if Canada makes it there? 🙂

Yep

I don't think that's the case at all. Both guys have been candidates for GM/HC jobs for a couple years now so it was only a matter of time. If either guy wanted to advance their career (which they both did and now have done), it wasn't going to be in Winnipeg, at least not at this time with Walters & MOS here. As far as a thank you goes, it's only been a day (for Buck) or less (for Ted) since their hirings were made official. Give it time. Winnipeg was very important to Buck and his family so I'd be shocked if he didn't say something at some point. I don't think I've ever heard anything from Ted - he's been more of a behind the scenes guy so I'm not sure that will change.

If you go to Grand Forks/Fargo they have Paradiso's which is the same tex-mex food that Chi Chi's used to serve. The Chi-chi's on Regent Ave used to be very busy and very successful back in the day. I remember always having to wait for a table and the free taco chips and salsa and everyone 'wow'ing over the sizzling fajitas that were being served. I do remember it being a good experience with good food. Eventually the owner sold it at its peak and the new owners had no clue how to run a restaurant and within 2 years they lost their franchise and renamed it to a different Mexican name and then closed shop not much later. I'm always amazed that nobody has set up a Tex-Mex shop since then.