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[MERGED] Drew Willy Watch And Fine Discussion

Part of me wants him to play this week, but the other, logical part of me, says Willy should at a minimum, sit vs Montreal. Bombers can likely win against the Als without Willy. It's a long season and concussions are a serious matter. I'm sure Willy wants back out there ASAP, but I hope the Bombers don't rush him back. Willy's long term health is most important here.

Will be an interesting week following Willy's status. I'm sure there will be lots of speculation and practice updates.

I guess the positive sign are he reports that Willy was watching the second half from the tunnel. Suggests he was mentally alert. Big sign will come in the next few days and whether he has any headaches or other post concussion signs.

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  • and, to your credit, you do know more than our medical staff...

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    If you're leading with your head it isn't a form tackle.  If he wrapped up around his head, I'd hate to see it called, but he led with his helmet and that needs to be penalized (both to discourage idi

  • You're missing one important piece to that puzzle - they wouldn't let him anywhere near the field even to be a decoy if it was as serious as people thought it was.

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if there's no symptoms though then he's probably fine. That's the thing about concussions is they're all over the map. Little bump on the head might put a guy out for months but a big shot might not have that much of an effect. I trust the doctors to make the correct call here because it's such a hot button issue these days. 

Do we even know what happened to him? Maybe he wasn't out cold? maybe they were more concerned about a neck injury or something, We don't even know what happened, can assume it's concussions and all this but... it might not be and if he's out there on the field practicing and running the first team reps, I'd say, it wasn't a concussion at all. 

 

I thought the same thing... He sure didn't move much after the hit though....

On a side note, this will make people happy.. according to tait, Marve getting the reps behind willy instead of brohm. 

 

Do we even know what happened to him? Maybe he wasn't out cold? maybe they were more concerned about a neck injury or something, We don't even know what happened, can assume it's concussions and all this but... it might not be and if he's out there on the field practicing and running the first team reps, I'd say, it wasn't a concussion at all. 

 

I thought the same thing... He sure didn't move much after the hit though....

 

Well, when you suspect possibly a neck injury, you are told not to move either. So it's hard to say what happened, I dunno. None of us really do. It's all just huge guesses cuz they don't or haven't told us yet... if they even do, a stinger maybe? I dunno, all i really know is if it was indeed a concussion, i don't think he'd be out there today practicing. 

 

 

Do we even know what happened to him? Maybe he wasn't out cold? maybe they were more concerned about a neck injury or something, We don't even know what happened, can assume it's concussions and all this but... it might not be and if he's out there on the field practicing and running the first team reps, I'd say, it wasn't a concussion at all. 

 

I thought the same thing... He sure didn't move much after the hit though....

 

Well, when you suspect possibly a neck injury, you are told not to move either. So it's hard to say what happened, I dunno. None of us really do. It's all just huge guesses cuz they don't or haven't told us yet... if they even do, a stinger maybe? I dunno, all i really know is if it was indeed a concussion, i don't think he'd be out there today practicing. 

 

I'm not an expert, but if it was a concussion, my understanding is that there would be no way that he'd be out there participating this soon after.

I dont think he was knocked out.  He was reacting immediately after the contact was made.  It looked like helmet to chin and I imagine it 1) hurt like crazy 2) scared the heck out of him.  Ever cut yourself and in that split second before you look down, it *feels* like it's horrible but its barely a scratch?  I can imagine Willy felt like his face had been caved in and/or neck broken.

 

When he was being helped off he looked dazed though, though it could also have just been the aftermath of pain/fear, emotional release etc.  I didnt think he looked "glassy" just sort of spent. 

 

Im sure they went through the protocols and if he is symptom free then he should play.  Its not just about sitting in a dark room either.  After passing everything else, he needs to exert himself and see how he feels.  its possible that he might experience headaches after a hard practice and that would be a set back.  If not, and he's good to go, then he plays.  Im surprised he didnt suffer a broken jaw though.  Hit looked horrible.

 

 

 

Do we even know what happened to him? Maybe he wasn't out cold? maybe they were more concerned about a neck injury or something, We don't even know what happened, can assume it's concussions and all this but... it might not be and if he's out there on the field practicing and running the first team reps, I'd say, it wasn't a concussion at all. 

 

I thought the same thing... He sure didn't move much after the hit though....

 

Well, when you suspect possibly a neck injury, you are told not to move either. So it's hard to say what happened, I dunno. None of us really do. It's all just huge guesses cuz they don't or haven't told us yet... if they even do, a stinger maybe? I dunno, all i really know is if it was indeed a concussion, i don't think he'd be out there today practicing. 

 

I'm not an expert, but if it was a concussion, my understanding is that there would be no way that he'd be out there participating this soon after.

 

Im no expert either though I have suffered several concussions.  There are degrees of concussions.  He might have passed all the testing and be deemed symptom free.  And even then, maybe he did suffer a slight concussion.  I assume he passed testing and today is about exerting himself.

 

Symptoms can get worse after repeated concussions too.  I know the last time I took a head shot, I felt friggen horrible for about 2-3 days.  The first 24 hours were horrible though.  Just awful.  Once I felt better, I felt completely better.

It is possible they are giving him reps early to see how he handles it after the practice and into the next day. If there's anything at all wrong I see them giving more reps to Brohm and Marve tomorrow.

I got a feeling that this is just to confuse the Als who to prepare for. I will be happy if Willy will start but won't be surprised if Bhrom will start and Marve as the no 2.

I got a feeling that this is just to confuse the Als who to prepare for. I will be happy if Willy will start but won't be surprised if Bhrom will start and Marve as the no 2.

 

You're missing one important piece to that puzzle - they wouldn't let him anywhere near the field even to be a decoy if it was as serious as people thought it was.

If it was a concussion .. he'll go through whatever protocol has been defined by the league .. and if he's passed whatever testing is required .. is at his baseline .. the next step would be to see how he respond to exerting himself to see if it brings on symptoms.  If he's symptom free after this .. there's no benefit to having him sit another week .. it's not like a sprain or a strain where the extra time to heal does you good .. you could take a huge shot and be completely fine .. a seemingly innocuous shot could trigger another concussion.  Each and every person responds differently to a TBI.

 

Again, this is all just speculation but it bodes well for his chances of playing if he's already out on the field.

Marve in second now. I guess the film didn't lie.

Marve in second now. I guess the film didn't lie.

Apparently Brohm still got more reps despite going on the field third. I don't think we will see a definitive change in the order of the backups... Not yet at least.

 

I got a feeling that this is just to confuse the Als who to prepare for. I will be happy if Willy will start but won't be surprised if Bhrom will start and Marve as the no 2.

 

You're missing one important piece to that puzzle - they wouldn't let him anywhere near the field even to be a decoy if it was as serious as people thought it was.

 

And how would that fit into O'Shea's statement Brohm was rusty because of lack of reps. 

Part of me worries that Willy is going to end up like Dunigan with some serious long-term problems, but right now, I'm just glad he's able to get out there and work like normal. If he feels good, and (more importantly) he's symptom-free tomorrow, then let 'er buck...

When I first saw the hit I noticed his head snapped back and thought whiplash. And when they helped him sit up one of the therapists/doctor(?) was cradling Willy's neck with his hand.

Willy should be scheduled for a regular presser sometime this week, the first question asked is going to be about the injury.  Whether he answers it or not remains to be seen.  I think it could possibly have been a "dental" injury.  I don't think many QB's use protective mouth guards because of all the yelling they have to do.

Wait, didn't MOS say Willy was tough and we'd see that this week? ;) Glad Marve has moved up to backup, gives me much more hope for this season now!

They're saying Brohm looks to be back in 2nd.....but hard to tell...

Nobody even knows if it's a concussion for sure, as of right now until the coaches say what it is, it's all just speculation.

CFL News ‏@CFL_News

RT .@BobIrvingCJOB Drew willy shakes off blow to the head vs #Ticats, cleared to practice and play vs #AlsMTL on Friday. #CFL #Bombers

Great news and am relieved he'll go against the Als.....ALSO ..I guess O'Shea has finally realized that....yes, Marvelous Marve is worthy of the no. 2 spot....What took so long.

Really great news.

Well, I'll be the downer... but I think this is terrible news.  I thought it was a bad idea to try and rush Buck back and I think its a bad idea to rush Willy back...  he was unconscious and looked completely out of it even when he got up. 

 

Sit him for 2-3 weeks just to be safe - I'd rather have him healthy for the last 8 games than re-injured in Game 4.

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