JuranBoldenRules Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Voting to strike doesn't necessarily mean being willing or able to strike. The CFLPA strike vote was like going all-in with a 7-2 off suit. The CFL called the bluff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Hilarious that they usurped Morreale and they hate this deal. The CFLPA's first mistake was ousting Moreale in that fashion. The second was thinking they could transfer anything they learned from Don Fehr to the CFL. Then, they compounded that into asking way too much to start, it was never a realistic starting point, and urging the players to use social media to reach out….well now the players are wondering why that cash train didn't stop at their depot. Apparently they did get some victories, in cash bonuses and no option year contracts, but, we'll have to wait for confirmation. Hope they got a good starting salary raise. **Is it Monday yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Blue Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Happy we get football, but this deal looks pretty bad for the players. CFL has grown a lot in recent years, both in on-field product and financially, and they get a tiny increase that won't affect most players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yourface Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Seems like a lot of players (according to Twitter at least) don't mind the deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 I actually think the players had a much better bargaining position than even they believed... you really think the owners/management would have undermined their own TV deal - like as in the TV deal they have been chasing for years and years and years. No way. CFLPA blinked. I doubt a strike would have lasted more than a couple games without the owners sweetening the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBieber Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Dec 24 RT @MauricePrice17: Oh yall thought the only dudes gettin money playing pro football was in the #NFL?? #CFLMe #AllHunnits #Blessed #Yep pic.twitter.com/eFsFIwRZqB Dec 24 RT @MauricePrice17: We gettin money & we only 4 1/2 hours a day to get it !!! Lol #CFLLife #Livin June 7 RT @MauricePrice17: There is no way we agreed to THAT What happened? Yourface and Floyd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ediger Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 I think this could work out in the players favour in the long run. The league is starting to bring in significant revenue now, the sort of cash that will allow them to improve the league overall. More money should be available for the things we've complained about for years like officiating, facilities, advertising, etc. These are the sort of things that will improve the league's image and hopefully win over new fans. If the CFL plays it's cards right, they could be making way more money by the time this new CBA expires. That would be the time for the players to try to strike it rich. However, with a league like the CFL, where most players don't stick around more than a few years, it can be tough for the players to take a long-term point of view regarding the CBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Considering the players pushed the issue & this is all they get? Scott Flory, epic fail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Flory only had power if the players were united. Clearly the strike votes weren't going their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Most those tweets are from stampeder players it seems. I thought the jason vega tweet summed it up nicely Put the phones down and #gotobed It really seems like a handful of stamps players are the only ones upset, the rest of the players seem to be fine with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 I noticed that too about the negative tweets that are being highlighted are from Stamps players. It's not the first time either iirc. Here are some tweets from Matthew Scianitti : Matthew Scianitti @TSNScianitti What we know: B4 the lengthy conference call a CBA term of 4, 5 & 5+1 were discussed. The salary cap $5million, increased 50K a season Matthew Scianitti @TSNScianitti What we know: Before the conference cal, sources said The "Revenue Protection Clause" (threshold to reopen cap talks) set at $27mil Matthew Scianitti @TSNScianitti Some key #CFLPA gains, b4 conference call: A ratification bonus $7.5K & $1.5K, with PA controlling bonus. 6+ yr vets could get 12K #CFL Matthew Scianitti @TSNScianitti Another key player gain, before conference call: The elimination of the option year, apart from rookie contracts. #CFLPA #CFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Flory only had power if the players were united. Clearly the strike votes weren't going their way. The votes were supposedly near 100% in favour of strike for all teams, remember???? So what the hell happened? Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted June 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Some details of the agreement: The source said the agreement calls for a $5-million salary cap. Although the exact term of the deal wasn't immediately known, the source added the two sides had discussed a four-year contract early Saturday that called for cap increases of $50,000 annually. However, after the league and union ended their formal talks in the afternoon, the source said two additional options were brought into play prior to the conference call with player reps: a contract covering five years or five plus a one-year option. The CFLPA had initially wanted a $6.24-million cap before amending its demand to $5.2 million. Last year, the CFL salary cap was $4.4 million. Players will also reportedly receive signing bonuses of $7,500 for veterans and $1,500 for rookies. The CFL minimum salary also increases $5,000 to $50,000, something the two sides had agreed to earlier. The league did get a major concession from the union on the gross revenue formula that would trigger the renegotiation of the cap or entire collective agreement. The players, who initially wanted the CBA to include revenue sharing, had called for the cap or entire agreement to be renegotiated if league revenues increased by more than $18 million — excluding the Grey Cup — in the third year of the deal. The CFL wanted that figure to be $27 million and the union ultimately agreed. The source added the agreement also calls for the elimination of the option year on CFL contracts, excluding rookies, which the union had wanted. Also, the players' practice day goes from 4.5 hours daily to a maximum of six hours with just one padded practice a week during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted June 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Still to be confirmed but I'm hearing its a 6 year deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Blue Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Some of these Stamps' guys are coming off as real whiners. It's unlikely every union member will be happy with the deal, but you don't need to make yourself look bad now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Not all players are bitching Thankful to be able to do what I love for a living #blessed — Johnny Sears Jr (@JJr0) June 8, 2014 AtlanticRiderFan and Harbaugh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zontar Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 So much for that 98% strike vote. What a crock. And now back to regularlry scheduled fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 Good on the players for taking the high road but I think everyone was aware that they couldn't forgo paychecks at the end of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted June 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 @scratchingpost: Have learned that ratification bonus for #CFLPA is tiered: 6 year vets get $12k, 5 yrs 10k, 4yrs 8k, 1-3 yrs 6k, rookies $1,500. #CFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KptKrunch Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 I think this could work out in the players favour in the long run. The league is starting to bring in significant revenue now, the sort of cash that will allow them to improve the league overall. More money should be available for the things we've complained about for years like officiating, facilities, advertising, etc. These are the sort of things that will improve the league's image and hopefully win over new fans. If the CFL plays it's cards right, they could be making way more money by the time this new CBA expires. That would be the time for the players to try to strike it rich. However, with a league like the CFL, where most players don't stick around more than a few years, it can be tough for the players to take a long-term point of view regarding the CBA. Hey, someone on here gets it. What I said a few times - there'll be no strike. When was the last time any of you heard of a 'minor league' go on strike. I never have. Now it is a bit difference because we are an independent league, but the bottom line is these guys all want to play in the NFL or they just want to play and this is their part time gig (like Lacrosse players). So striking for them does nothing, and in the end the owners will win no matter what, or the league will fold. Either way, NFL hopefuls lose another road to get there, and the guys that play for the love of the game lose that. I said no missed regular season games. My bet is the owners told the PA that for every dime lost on pre-season games, that's how much their offer would go down by before the players agreed to it. If you're a player, what are you going to do. That plus what I bolded above - owners have all the cards Nasty Nate and Harbaugh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 the ratification bribe...er bonus, is what got this done. rebusrankin, TBURGESS, B-F-F-C and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 First as a player, Scott Flory messed up contract in Saskatchewan then messes up CFLPA with the CBA. I wonder how long he'll stay President? Somewhere Mike Morreale is smiling. Mr Dee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted June 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 First as a player, Scott Flory messed up contract in Saskatchewan then messes up CFLPA with the CBA. I wonder how long he'll stay President? Somewhere Mike Morreale is smiling. Morreale wouldn't have done any better. Mr. Perfect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted June 8, 2014 Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 The CFLPA needs a new lawyer. Mr Dee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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