The Unknown Poster Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 The tiered signing bonus is most interesting. Cfl paid the vets and in a now works it bought agreement. If I was the pa I would have fought for a higher minimum. But what can ya do. If players vote it down they will all regret it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Why would anyone want to be President of a neutered & totally useless union. Guys making fifty grand, no leverage as the players are broke. Ownership knows that so they show little respect. What a thankless job. Now, having said that, Flory promised the players the moon. Trouble is, the rocket is still on Pad 19 at Cape Canaveral. Yep - it's useless because the league isn't really a major league. It's not the 'final destination' and 90% of players are not here for the long term. They just want to play and hone their skills for the NFL. Striking won't accomplish that. Guess what though, you live in Canada. The CFL is indeed the major leagues here in Canada. I'm not sure how people fail to understand that Canada is not part of the USA. Why is the CFL not major league? because why? your reasons are flawed, 90 percent of NFL players dont last long either. What makes the CFL not the major leagues in the country you live in? The fact that Canada has like 300 ++ million less people than the USA does? In Canada, the CFL is as big as it gets, therefore it's a major league, just cuz its not on the same level as the NFL doesn't mean it isn't. The NFL should change its name to the AFL because basically its the american football league. You get it now? in Canada we got the Canadian football league. It isn't major league because of salaries. Most guys need an off season job to pay the bills. Until the CFL becomes rich enough to pay players what they're worth so they don't have to work another job then it will never be a major league. But I still love it. I follow it more closely than the NHL. It is unique & it belongs to Canada so it's ours. But it isn't major league. Mom & Pop in every way with one guy owning two teams calling the shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ediger Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Why would anyone want to be President of a neutered & totally useless union. Guys making fifty grand, no leverage as the players are broke. Ownership knows that so they show little respect. What a thankless job. Now, having said that, Flory promised the players the moon. Trouble is, the rocket is still on Pad 19 at Cape Canaveral. Yep - it's useless because the league isn't really a major league. It's not the 'final destination' and 90% of players are not here for the long term. They just want to play and hone their skills for the NFL. Striking won't accomplish that. Guess what though, you live in Canada. The CFL is indeed the major leagues here in Canada. I'm not sure how people fail to understand that Canada is not part of the USA. Why is the CFL not major league? because why? your reasons are flawed, 90 percent of NFL players dont last long either. What makes the CFL not the major leagues in the country you live in? The fact that Canada has like 300 ++ million less people than the USA does? In Canada, the CFL is as big as it gets, therefore it's a major league, just cuz its not on the same level as the NFL doesn't mean it isn't. The NFL should change its name to the AFL because basically its the american football league. You get it now? in Canada we got the Canadian football league. As much as you may want to think that, the CFL is most definitely a 2nd tier league. Name me one American player who dreams of playing in the CFL. Hell, name me one Canadian player who would pick the CFL over the NFL. It's the best we have in Canada and I love it, but in no way is the the #1 football league. The major leagues are where the best players go and they don't go to the CFL. Mr. Perfect 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_professional_sports_teams_of_the_United_States_and_Canada Yup, it's wikipedia but... The CFL is considered one of the 6 major league sports leagues in north america along with MLB, NHL,NFL,NBA AND MLS IF MLS is major leagues, then so is the CFL. Oh, for the record, you can't and will not change my opinion or mind on this so probably shouldn't bother trying too. When did Canada become the 51st state though is what i wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Perfect Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Why would anyone want to be President of a neutered & totally useless union. Guys making fifty grand, no leverage as the players are broke. Ownership knows that so they show little respect. What a thankless job. Now, having said that, Flory promised the players the moon. Trouble is, the rocket is still on Pad 19 at Cape Canaveral. Yep - it's useless because the league isn't really a major league. It's not the 'final destination' and 90% of players are not here for the long term. They just want to play and hone their skills for the NFL. Striking won't accomplish that. Guess what though, you live in Canada. The CFL is indeed the major leagues here in Canada. I'm not sure how people fail to understand that Canada is not part of the USA. Why is the CFL not major league? because why? your reasons are flawed, 90 percent of NFL players dont last long either. What makes the CFL not the major leagues in the country you live in? The fact that Canada has like 300 ++ million less people than the USA does? In Canada, the CFL is as big as it gets, therefore it's a major league, just cuz its not on the same level as the NFL doesn't mean it isn't. The NFL should change its name to the AFL because basically its the american football league. You get it now? in Canada we got the Canadian football league. As much as you may want to think that, the CFL is most definitely a 2nd tier league. Name me one American player who dreams of playing in the CFL. Hell, name me one Canadian player who would pick the CFL over the NFL. It's the best we have in Canada and I love it, but in no way is the the #1 football league. The major leagues are where the best players go and they don't go to the CFL. Well said, bang on, on all points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 do minor leagues get a 45 million/yr tv contract? do they get 20 30 40 even 50,000 people out to watch games? do they get huge ratings on tv like the CFL does? It's not as night and day as some of you are making it out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Compared to the juggernaut that is the NFL not much is major league. Cfl is the second best football league in NA. Nothing wrong with that and it's a silly deBate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KptKrunch Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Why would anyone want to be President of a neutered & totally useless union. Guys making fifty grand, no leverage as the players are broke. Ownership knows that so they show little respect. What a thankless job. Now, having said that, Flory promised the players the moon. Trouble is, the rocket is still on Pad 19 at Cape Canaveral. Yep - it's useless because the league isn't really a major league. It's not the 'final destination' and 90% of players are not here for the long term. They just want to play and hone their skills for the NFL. Striking won't accomplish that. Guess what though, you live in Canada. The CFL is indeed the major leagues here in Canada. I'm not sure how people fail to understand that Canada is not part of the USA. Why is the CFL not major league? because why? your reasons are flawed, 90 percent of NFL players dont last long either. What makes the CFL not the major leagues in the country you live in? The fact that Canada has like 300 ++ million less people than the USA does? In Canada, the CFL is as big as it gets, therefore it's a major league, just cuz its not on the same level as the NFL doesn't mean it isn't. The NFL should change its name to the AFL because basically its the american football league. You get it now? in Canada we got the Canadian football league. OMG - I love the CFL. It's not major league because if you look at the revenues that the NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL generate you'd see it not even close. In fact, MLS has much higher revenues' than the CFL. The players that come here, including our own (like Henoc Muamba - ever hear of him?) are willing to do 'anything' for a shot at the NFL - the 'big leagues'. Why is the CFL not a 'major league'? REVENUE! You gotta face facts my friend. Me, I grew up on the CFL and I love the game. But by no means have I ever considered the CFL major league. I don't fool myself that way. If it were, we'd have a lock out / strike guaranteed. Don't be so sensitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KptKrunch Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Compared to the juggernaut that is the NFL not much is major league. Cfl is the second best football league in NA. Nothing wrong with that and it's a silly deBate. Yes it's a silly debate. The CFL is what the CFL is. My biggest fear though, still, is Toronto getting an NFL team. If that ever comes to pass, in a few years, you can kiss that big TV contract goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Compared to the juggernaut that is the NFL not much is major league. Cfl is the second best football league in NA. Nothing wrong with that and it's a silly deBate. Yes it's a silly debate. The CFL is what the CFL is. My biggest fear though, still, is Toronto getting an NFL team. If that ever comes to pass, in a few years, you can kiss that big TV contract goodbye. Why would that be? Arent ratings for the CFL higher in places like Sk than Toronto? And in Canada, rating for the CFl are higher than ratings for the NFL. Certainly, losing the largest TV market would be a negative and probably impact the TSN TV deal, but Im not sure it would kill the CFL. The NFL also seems to be very responsible on this issue, insisting that any owner of a Toronto NFL team also own the CFL team to ensure it's continued survival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Compared to the juggernaut that is the NFL not much is major league. Cfl is the second best football league in NA. Nothing wrong with that and it's a silly deBate. Yes it's a silly debate. The CFL is what the CFL is. My biggest fear though, still, is Toronto getting an NFL team. If that ever comes to pass, in a few years, you can kiss that big TV contract goodbye. Why would that be? Arent ratings for the CFL higher in places like Sk than Toronto? And in Canada, rating for the CFl are higher than ratings for the NFL. Certainly, losing the largest TV market would be a negative and probably impact the TSN TV deal, but Im not sure it would kill the CFL. The NFL also seems to be very responsible on this issue, insisting that any owner of a Toronto NFL team also own the CFL team to ensure it's continued survival. An NFL team in Toronto would be a hard blow for the CFL. The reason the TV deal is so high is that TSN thinks they can recoup their investment via advertising dollars. Most corporations, not all, but most try and link their brand to one major advertising push at a time. Some will stay with the CFL. Some will try and hitch their wagon to the NFL. Few will do both. In terms of overall dollars the NFL would have a minimal affect on gate revenue. The big blows would come in TV and sponsorship revenue. Many of the corporations branding with the CFL are Ontario based. The CFL wouldn't shut down just because a NFL team moves in to the dome. It would definitely big a noticeable blow though. ps - the Bills aren't moving to Toronto. Toronto might want a team; Toronto doesn't always get what it wants. see: Cups, Stanley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 ps - the Bills aren't moving to Toronto. Toronto might want a team; Toronto doesn't always get what it wants. see: Cups, Stanley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted June 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 @TSNScianitti: Returned from #Ticats practice, hearing #CFLPA execs are travelling to select #CFL cities not to convince but "open dialogue" with players @Foley4Real: @TSNScianitti Just wasting more of our Union Dues...Ain't nobody in Saskatchewan wanna see them, hope they bring their own security. @Foley4Real: I am voting YES to accept the deal & NOT strike...cause we've been backed in2 a corner & I have no confidence in our execs or legal counsel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBlink Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Ricky Foley...what more can you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted June 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 @JeffHecht24: You hire a bunch of clowns and you are probably going to get a circus. @HerbZurkowsky1: Josh Bourke on Jeff Hecht tweet: "That was 100 inappropriate. I think that was a classless move on his part." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Just curious Pete Dyakowski is the ticat player rep January is ours Im assuming foley is sasks? how come the other player reps are way more professional and classy than ricky foley? Although foley has never been accused of being classy and professional has he. or is labatte sasks rep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Just curious Pete Dyakowski is the ticat player rep January is ours Im assuming foley is sasks? how come the other player reps are way more professional and classy than ricky foley? Although foley has never been accused of being classy and professional has he. Mike McCullough and Labatte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Just curious Pete Dyakowski is the ticat player rep January is ours Im assuming foley is sasks? how come the other player reps are way more professional and classy than ricky foley? Although foley has never been accused of being classy and professional has he. Mike McCullough and Labatte oh. interesting, he's been rather quiet actually. judging from some tweets by foley, i was certain he was. has mcCullough done a good job explaining it to foley and his team mates? cuz foley seems to think they are gaining nothing, completely ignoring the 600,000 plus increase in the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 HAHAHAHAHA Foley!! Love it. Everyone is going to vote against the deal. PA better bring security. Oh yeah and Im going to vote FOR the deal. HAHAHA courage of his convictions right there. What a first rate loser. Get the F off twitter ya moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 guess gbill was right and players were just blowing off some steam. Some of these guys should be careful what they say though, seen it in other sports where if you are too pro union, you kind of get blacklisted. the name ron hainsey comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan007 Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 @JeffHecht24: You hire a bunch of clowns and you are probably going to get a circus. @HerbZurkowsky1: Josh Bourke on Jeff Hecht tweet: "That was 100 inappropriate. I think that was a classless move on his part." Google Jeff Hecht and check his picture. Then ask who the clown is. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 The deal is awful but we are going to vote for it because the people who negotiated for it are completely clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 has the cfl broke the union? lol. is this what is happening right now? it sure seems like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 @JeffHecht24: You hire a bunch of clowns and you are probably going to get a circus. @HerbZurkowsky1: Josh Bourke on Jeff Hecht tweet: "That was 100 inappropriate. I think that was a classless move on his part." Google Jeff Hecht and check his picture. Then ask who the clown is. LOL. His hair looks like it's trying to run away from his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Perfect Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Who's Jeff Hecht? Logan007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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