17to85 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 8 minutes ago, Goalie said: Some think they know it all. Others know they don’t. Your opinion doesn’t mean ****, neither does mine. I accept that. Do you? Mike O'Shea has had roster building blind spots from day 1, to deny that is to deny reality. Does any other team dress players routinely who don't take a single snap anywhere on the field? That should tell you everything about the infallibility of the coaches roster decisions. BigBlueFanatic, Bigblue204, rebusrankin and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOBomberFan Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, GCn20 said: Missed it and can't find where the link is. What is the $ amount. Not sure we've actually linked anything yet, here you go: https://3downnation.com/2024/01/29/winnipeg-blue-bombers-sign-centre-chris-kolankowski-to-two-year-extension/ Per sources, Kolankowski will earn close to $140,000 in 2024 and around $150,000 in 2025 as part of his new deal. This is a significant raise over what he made in 2023, which came in just shy of $90,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 52 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said: 140 per season 140k and people are complaining? That's not a high contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 21 minutes ago, Booch said: some see it........and some dont I see fine. You’re just over the top negative on this player. Goalie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, GCn20 said: 140k and people are complaining? That's not a high contract. have to agree.....the guy was playing for peanuts last year and I don't see the two yr. deal is that exorbitant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 7 minutes ago, MOBomberFan said: Not sure we've actually linked anything yet, here you go: https://3downnation.com/2024/01/29/winnipeg-blue-bombers-sign-centre-chris-kolankowski-to-two-year-extension/ Per sources, Kolankowski will earn close to $140,000 in 2024 and around $150,000 in 2025 as part of his new deal. This is a significant raise over what he made in 2023, which came in just shy of $90,000. 140k is 6th OL money unless you go rookie at 6th. For a starting OC that is cheap. Brandon and MOBomberFan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 7 minutes ago, GCn20 said: 140k and people are complaining? That's not a high contract. 50k raise to the worst starter on our team when Brady and schoen are pending fas going to get a huge raise each. Bubba Zanetti, GCJenks, Noeller and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 9 minutes ago, 17to85 said: In the same way Damian Jackson can play DE... ie. Not well. Well Eli earned a starters spot, lost it, and has not got it back. This fall back on “MOS just falls in love with guys for no reason” as a mantra can’t be used in every case. 1 minute ago, GCn20 said: 140k is 6th OL money unless you go rookie at 6th. For a starting OC that is cheap. Some see it …some don’t. Jesse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 (edited) 2 minutes ago, wbbfan said: 50k raise to the worst starter on our team when Brady and schoen are pending fas going to get a huge raise each. Yea...that's generally how it works when you play yourself into a better contract situation. He might be the worst starter on our team but he is middle of the pack in CFL centres and is not that bad. I would bet big money he is the cheapest Centre in the league even with his raise. 140k for a starting calibre NAT OL is pretty cheap. We will always have guys looking for raises coming off of low contracts. That's professional sports. Sorry but we have a ton of ways to free up money without having to be chintzy on the OL. That's the heart beat of our club. Edited January 31 by GCn20 Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCJenks Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 7 minutes ago, GCn20 said: 140k and people are complaining? That's not a high contract. I don’t think it’s the contract amount that is at issue, he was the least needed of our OL free agents. Eli is already on the roster and better at centre. With Bryant, Gray/Dobson, Eli, Neufeld and Hardrick/Richmond we have the best O-Line on the league and have better protection for Zach than we had before. That $50 or 60k over a rookie developmental is needed for other players. rebusrankin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickem Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, wbbfan said: 50k raise to the worst starter on our team when Brady and schoen are pending fas going to get a huge raise each. cut the navy seal and presto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, wbbfan said: 50k raise to the worst starter on our team when Brady and schoen are pending fas going to get a huge raise each. Walters has said repeatedly this salary structure is based on position and where they are willing to allocate the money. Seems to have worked well. Bigblue204 and rebusrankin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Catan's Ghost Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 13 minutes ago, Stickem said: It's okay with the emu and the monkey as well... Cue the “Hurtigs of Vaughan Street” theme: “Every Sha-la-la-la Every Wo-o-wo-o Still shines” Fatty Liver and kelownabomberfan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 3 minutes ago, Stickem said: cut the navy seal and presto Exactly Dammit people c'mon....we signed Chris Freakin Streveler today and we are arguing about Kolo's peanuts contract? Let's gooooooooo......Strev BABY!!!! Bigblue204, Jesse and the watcher 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, Geebrr said: Walters has said repeatedly this salary structure is based on position and where they are willing to allocate the money. Seems to have worked well. Early to tell this year, we haven’t had a significant raise like this since zachs contract after 2019. Maintaining on a team retaining most but not all players while still losing guys is different than retooling like we have to now. 50k is 50k, we need to be cutting the fat and saving not the opposite. 5 minutes ago, Stickem said: cut the navy seal and presto That’s a base American cut for a base American though. Makes us much better talent wise but doesn’t save us money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Just now, wbbfan said: Early to tell this year, we haven’t had a significant raise like this since zachs contract after 2019. Maintaining on a team retaining most but not all players while still losing guys is different than retooling like we have to now. 50k is 50k, we need to be cutting the fat and saving not the opposite. Wide receiver expenses have had big increases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted January 31 Author Report Share Posted January 31 8 minutes ago, wbbfan said: 50k raise to the worst starter on our team when Brady and schoen are pending fas going to get a huge raise each. 100% this. This is why I was upset with the contract. rebusrankin, Bubba Zanetti and GCJenks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 ZC has taken a beating the last yr and for a good part of 2022....from being unscathed basically all his other time here...who was center when all that started?....a lot of issues from an O-line start from inside out, but may appear others are losing in their assignments....some here know what I talking about, and what is the common denominator in the poundings.... wbbfan, BomberBall, rebusrankin and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted January 31 Author Report Share Posted January 31 Stan-Dobson-Eli-Paddy-Yosh (Gray 6th/Rotational) is the OL I want to see. I understand that the Koala signing likely means some of those pieces are on the way out (unfortunately) but in a perfect world, that's the OL I want to see on the Bombers. Koala is not better than any of the listed, regardless of what the fancy stats people want to trumpet. also: GCJenks and rebusrankin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Just now, Noeller said: Stan-Dobson-Eli-Paddy-Yosh (Gray 6th/Rotational) is the OL I want to see. I understand that the Koala signing likely means some of those pieces are on the way out (unfortunately) but in a perfect world, that's the OL I want to see on the Bombers. Koala is not better than any of the listed, regardless of what the fancy stats people want to trumpet. Nor does his contact suggest he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted January 31 Author Report Share Posted January 31 Just now, GCn20 said: Nor does his contact suggest he is. that massive raise suggests he is better than his play would indicate. Again, giving a relatively massive raise to that guy when we're likely scrambling to find money for Schoen and Brady O seems like a humongous miss by Walters.......unless.... as has been mentioned......... some OL pieces (Yoshi/Gray) are gone and we were desperate. GCJenks and rebusrankin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wideleft Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Just popped in to read the Strevy talk. Bigblue204, Jesse, roddy315 and 6 others 1 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 (edited) 9 minutes ago, wbbfan said: Early to tell this year, we haven’t had a significant raise like this since zachs contract after 2019. Maintaining on a team retaining most but not all players while still losing guys is different than retooling like we have to now. 50k is 50k, we need to be cutting the fat and saving not the opposite. That’s a base American cut for a base American though. Makes us much better talent wise but doesn’t save us money. Some players will get cuts, some will get raises. EVERY offseason FOREVER on EVERY team. bringing our current starting OC up to 6th OL/lowest paid at his position in the league does not scream needless spending to me. Edited January 31 by GCn20 Jesse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, GCn20 said: Some players will get cuts, some will get raises. EVERY offseason FOREVER on EVERY team. Some of these guys are in the room. Oh wait. Nope. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOBomberFan Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, Booch said: ZC has taken a beating the last yr and for a good part of 2022....from being unscathed basically all his other time here...who was center when all that started?....a lot of issues from an O-line start from inside out, but may appear others are losing in their assignments....some here know what I talking about, and what is the common denominator in the poundings.... Another common denominator is Brady taking over at running back for AH33. Harris was the ultimate checkdown and was used that way very frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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