4 minutes ago, Brandon said:

Paging Noeller and his frequent terrible takes      

While it's an old way of thinking, it's only human nature for people wanting to follow a confident leader.   Colin isn't wrong when he says that society lives in a world where men look weak when they waffle or even worse when one is a milque toast.   

sure...but why was this brought up at all...?

The fragility of some people. Amazing that they don't break just getting out of bed. 

1 hour ago, Brandon said:

While it's an old way of thinking, it's only human nature for people wanting to follow a confident leader.   Colin isn't wrong when he says that society lives in a world where men look weak when they waffle or even worse when one is a milque toast.   

I don't want a leader who will confidently March people in the wrong direction. I want people who will listen and can admit when they were mistaken. Changing your mind isn't weakness, it's being a rational person.

27 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

I don't want a leader who will confidently March people in the wrong direction. I want people who will listen and can admit when they were mistaken. Changing your mind isn't weakness, it's being a rational person.

Even the old guys had it right.

“If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end in doubts; but if he will be content to begin with doubts, he shall end in certainties.”
― Francis Bacon, The Oxford Francis Bacon IV: The Advancement of Learning

 

“I like the scientific spirit—the holding off, the being sure but not too sure, the willingness to surrender ideas when the evidence is against them: this is ultimately fine—it always keeps the way beyond open—always gives life, thought, affection, the whole man, a chance to try over again after a mistake—after a wrong guess.”
― Walt Whitman, Walt Whitman's Camden Conversations

On 2023-05-16 at 8:27 AM, Colin Unger said:

For men, I think that there definitely is an expectation to make a decision and stick to it.  Men look weak when they flip flop on decisions. It creates distress for others because they never know what to trust. 

is this in response to something or just your random musings for the day??

21 hours ago, 17to85 said:

I don't want a leader who will confidently March people in the wrong direction. I want people who will listen and can admit when they were mistaken. Changing your mind isn't weakness, it's being a rational person.

this is actually perfectly said... can't believe I'm saying that about a @17to85 post... I kid, I kid 😁

5 hours ago, bearpants said:

is this in response to something or just your random musings for the day??

this is actually perfectly said... can't believe I'm saying that about a @17to85 post... I kid, I kid 😁

It's the reality.  Many people look down on indicisive men. I believe someone had talked about whether it would have made Riley look bad if he had changed his mind about leaving Winnipeg.  I was responding to that. 

4 hours ago, Noeller said:

it's a result of having lived a life in the Bible Belt of southern Manitoba....... where men are men!! 

Men here are same as anywhere else. I've lived all over.

Let's just get back to football.  

23 minutes ago, Colin Unger said:

It's the reality.  Many people look down on indecisive men.

I was going to get back to you on this after some reflection but I didn't want you to think less of me so I just gave up.

OK...back to football lol...

6 hours ago, Colin Unger said:

Many people look down on indicisive men.

I don't believe you. People look down on those who lack confidence. But confidence isn't the same thing as never changing your mind. 

Who gives a flying **** about whether or not someone looks down on you? If someone looks down on you for any reason, **** them! 

Any person can be anything they want... And nobody should ever be judged for it. 

Unless you're an *******, who doesn't love everyone equally... Then we can judge you for being an *******. 

11 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Any person can be anything they want...

you mean I really can be an athlete?

42 minutes ago, Noeller said:

 

Unless you're an *******, who doesn't love everyone equally... Then we can judge you for being an *******. 

You love the Riders equally?  Really?

11 hours ago, 17to85 said:

you mean I really can be an athlete?

Curling or chess, perhaps.

10 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said:

You love the Riders equally?  Really?

The Riders are people now?

2 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Curling or chess, perhaps.

Hey Esports might be in the Olympics 

47 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Curling or chess, perhaps.

don't get him started..........

2 hours ago, Noeller said:

don't get him started..........

So this one time in university...

14 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

So this one time in university...

46 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

So this one time in university...

16 hours ago, Noeller said:

Who gives a flying **** about whether or not someone looks down on you? If someone looks down on you for any reason, **** them! 

Any person can be anything they want... And nobody should ever be judged for it. 

Unless you're an *******, who doesn't love everyone equally... Then we can judge you for being an *******. 

Unless you’re a Toronto Maple Leaf - then you cannot be a Stanley Cup Champion 😉

Mo Leggett still going.

 

9 hours ago, bigg jay said:

Mo Leggett still going.

 

What? Really?!?

9 hours ago, bigg jay said:

Mo Leggett still going.

 

Good for him!!

10 hours ago, bigg jay said:

Mo Leggett still going.

 

What sport is he playing?