Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, 17to85 said: And to think how much people **** on Matt Nichols..... but yeah Collaros is gonna climb that list quickly if he stays healthy. If you click on the sort tab for win percentage... Zach is king of that hill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Black Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, JCon said: Some giants of the franchise could be passed this year. Great work bye Chris stats junkie. Gotta follow him. blue_gold_84 and JCon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted July 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 Just now, Rod Black said: Some giants of the franchise could be passed this year. Great work bye Chris stats junkie. Gotta follow him. @Stats Junkie is a must follow! Rod Black, Noeller and blue_gold_84 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 50 minutes ago, Tracker said: Until a Kent Austin-type passer comes along. The game doesn't allow for pure pocket passers anymore, just no time to sit in there. Unless you have an arm like Dieter Brock and can take a 9 step drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 42 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said: What makes Zach so great is how cool and calm he is in the pocket, his pocket awareness is second to none in the CFL, he’s not the quickest QB by far but the way he can move around the pocket, keep his eyes down field, and not let the heat get to him while he throws makes him special, and unique from anything or anyone the CFL has to offer at the QB position right now. I would challenge that BLM when healthy has been just as mobile but in a much more economical way than Zach, he is a master at avoiding the rush by taking a few quick steps to find space before resetting, this is one of his top assets. He's a better downfield passer than Collaros, but not as good throwing the ball on the run especially when rolling left, no QB does that better than Zach, excluding Flutie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Tracker said: Until a Kent Austin-type passer comes along. I miss Kent Austin, his sideline antics were the best! Bigblue204 and BigBlueFanatic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlueFanatic Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: I miss Kent Austin, his sideline antics were the best! Honestly was relieved for him when he walked away from CFL coaching. Kept thinking I would read in the paper that he’d dropped dead from a rage-induced aneurysm. Fatty Liver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, bearpants said: I agree with that... not saying he would necessarily be a superstar... just a curious "what if" about a player that showed potential but was in a bad situation. You want to talk "what ifs?" What if Zach signed here instead of with Hamilton in the first place and we never have to experience Willy or Nichols. TBURGESS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jesse said: You want to talk "what ifs?" What if Zach signed here instead of with Hamilton in the first place and we never have to experience Willy or Nichols. and how do you think Zach would have fared behind the OL of those days? Tracker and johnzo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted July 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Noeller said: and how do you think Zach would have fared behind the OL of those days? He would have been long out of this league. Fatty Liver, Mr. Perfect, Arnold_Palmer and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Noeller said: and how do you think Zach would have fared behind the OL of those days? He eventually would get broken, same as in Hamilton. Can't question the timing of the football gods, it is as it was supposed to be. Edited July 11, 2022 by Fatty Liver Noeller, BigBlueFanatic, bearpants and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booch Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Fatty Liver said: I would challenge that BLM when healthy has been just as mobile but in a much more economical way than Zach, he is a master at avoiding the rush by taking a few quick steps to find space before resetting, this is one of his top assets. He's a better downfield passer than Collaros, but not as good throwing the ball on the run especially when rolling left, no QB does that better than Zach, excluding Flutie. BLM doesnt have the escapability of ZC...what he does really well when he is healthy is have that natural pocket instinct to hang in there and take that critical step or two up into the pocket to let his play develop downfield, ar do a slight side step to give him a spot to throw...whereas ZC has that incredible ability to run around...and change direction of his scramble to the opposite direction all the while with eyes down field on receivers, and not losing where they are to make those hug throws to keep drives going...it's almost uncanny Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BomberfanMKS Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 The throwing accurately and with velocity to an open receiver 8 yards downfield at the sideline while falling down is definitely a ZC thing that BLM wouldn't do. Rod Black, Tracker, BigBlueFanatic and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 7 hours ago, Fatty Liver said: I miss Kent Austin, his sideline antics were the best! Apparently he is the OC at Liberty U in the States and according to his wiki page was a top 10 QB. His mom must have wrote that page. Bubba Zanetti 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 58 minutes ago, BomberfanMKS said: The throwing accurately and with velocity to an open receiver 8 yards downfield at the sideline while falling down is definitely a ZC thing that BLM wouldn't do. Mitchell was/is effective when all is perfect. He does not do well in adversity. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolby Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 If we're talking old Bo then he flat out takes the qb cake,his career record is unreal but he's not better than Zach today. CodyT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 7 hours ago, Booch said: BLM doesnt have the escapability of ZC...what he does really well when he is healthy is have that natural pocket instinct to hang in there and take that critical step or two up into the pocket to let his play develop downfield, ar do a slight side step to give him a spot to throw...whereas ZC has that incredible ability to run around...and change direction of his scramble to the opposite direction all the while with eyes down field on receivers, and not losing where they are to make those hug throws to keep drives going...it's almost uncanny Suitor was saying Saturday that Collaros reminds him of Doug Flutie, If I was going to compare ZC to any qb of the past, it's Tom Clements hands down. They play the game very similar. Tracker, Jesse and TrueBlue4ever 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 I went back and watched a bunch of Clements games over the past couple years and yeah, I agree. Clements was a slippery guy and his field vision was so good that he could always find the open man and get the ball there. I think Collaros is a better passer than Clements was, though. Collaros' accuracy is something special, up there in the Ricky Ray tier as far as CFL guys go, and ZC definitely can put more mustard on the ball than TC could. Hell, I think Hufnagel had a way better arm than Clements did, he put up some beauty rainbows in his day, but he didn't have Clements' uncanny radar and playmaking ability. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 35 minutes ago, johnzo said: I went back and watched a bunch of Clements games over the past couple years and yeah, I agree. Clements was a slippery guy and his field vision was so good that he could always find the open man and get the ball there. I think Collaros is a better passer than Clements was, though. Collaros' accuracy is something special, up there in the Ricky Ray tier as far as CFL guys go, and ZC definitely can put more mustard on the ball than TC could. Hell, I think Hufnagel had a way better arm than Clements did, he put up some beauty rainbows in his day, but he didn't have Clements' uncanny radar and playmaking ability. Clements uncanny ability to extend plays was the same as Collaros. Both were/are so much fun to watch. johnzo, JCon, Piggy 1 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 That first TD pass to Schoen where he dropped it in the bucket was pure 🥶 JCon, SpeedFlex27, Noeller and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 9 hours ago, johnzo said: I went back and watched a bunch of Clements games over the past couple years and yeah, I agree. Clements was a slippery guy and his field vision was so good that he could always find the open man and get the ball there. I think Collaros is a better passer than Clements was, though. Collaros' accuracy is something special, up there in the Ricky Ray tier as far as CFL guys go, and ZC definitely can put more mustard on the ball than TC could. Hell, I think Hufnagel had a way better arm than Clements did, he put up some beauty rainbows in his day, but he didn't have Clements' uncanny radar and playmaking ability. The one thing I notice about all great QB's is that they seem to be smart individuals, not a dummy in the bunch. Brain power is more important to the QB position than the strength of the arm. In this regard, Fajardo seems to be a happy-go-lucky-half-wit. Rod Black and Noeller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigg jay Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: The one thing I notice about all great QB's is that they seem to be smart individuals, not a dummy in the bunch. Brain power is more important to the QB position than the strength of the arm. In this regard, Fajardo seems to be a happy-go-lucky-half-wit. Yeah but his toughness is off the charts... just ask him! Noeller, Jesse and BagBlieBulls 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 No other QB in this league right now has an arm in the same realm as Collaros. Rourke can throw rainbows if he has time to torque his entire body. Collaros can throw a 35 yard rope that lands like a pillow on a full roll to his left as a right handed QB like the 2nd Schoen TD. Fajardo or Harris or MBT can't make that pass with unlimited time in a clean pocket. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Black Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 32 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: The one thing I notice about all great QB's is that they seem to be smart individuals, not a dummy in the bunch. Brain power is more important to the QB position than the strength of the arm. In this regard, Fajardo seems to be a happy-go-lucky-half-wit. Tom Clements. Remarkable intellect, I think. University at Notre Dame grad. While still in the CFL he graduated Juris Doctor degree magma cum laude from Notre Dame Law school in 1986. I don’t know what all the educational accomplishment means but it sure sounds ****** impressive and I guess he’s trained as a lawyer. JCon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Fatty Liver said: The one thing I notice about all great QB's is that they seem to be smart individuals, not a dummy in the bunch. Brain power is more important to the QB position than the strength of the arm. In this regard, Fajardo seems to be a happy-go-lucky-half-wit. Intelligence is the #1 thing I want out of any QB. Physical tools are whatever...if you can't figure out how to read a defense, you're useless to me. Fatty Liver, JCon and Geebrr 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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