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  1. Here are the results from the Blue Bombers 4th quarter drives in 2019 Please note that this chart only includes drives that started in the 4th quarter. It does not include drives that may have started in Q3 and finished in Q4.
  2. I prepared the charts for previous seasons prior to the start of the season. At that point, only active QBs were relevant. Here are the numbers for the retired QBs. A few factors got me looking into a drive based approach rather than the traditional passing stats 1. There were many drives where QBs would go 3 for 3, 4 for 4 etc. and the drive would result in a punt. The completion percentage was great but the result was bad. 2. The pass efficiency rating focuses on TD passes. A drive that ends in a TD rush is just as significant as a drive that ends in a TD pass. 3. Over the past decade, we have seen the role of a situational QB flourish. A number of TD drives end with a backup QB punching the ball into the end zone, taking any opportunity for a TD pass out of the hands of the drive QB.
  3. I have been tracking drive based numbers since 2015. The key measurements (in my opinion) are points per drive and yards per drive. Here are the numbers for the active CFL QBs who have been around since 2015 And here are the results through 3 weeks of the 2019 season
  4. For equipment manager it might be Harold "Torchy" Pechet (1948). The Blue Bombers were short players in 1948 and the team agreed to allow Pechet to dress for the August 28 game against Saskatchewan. It was Pechet's childhood dream to dress for the Blue Bombers.
  5. Here are some games played details for the players who played in the 1930's & 1940's Bill Ceretti missed the 1942 season with a broken wrist Les Lear's 1937 regular season lasted 1 play. He entered the game to start the 2nd quarter and he was ejected for fighting. Lou Mogul was primarily a middle wing (tackle) during his career.
  6. I am a little late to the dance but I thought that I would share some information on Lou Adelman. Adelman played the snapback/centre position for his entire career (note: he played middle wing in 1 game in 1931). During this era, the centre was considered to be the second most important position on the field after the QB. Teams would often line up 2 or 3 players in a spread behind centre. It was up to the centre to snap the ball accurately to the correct player without tipping off the opposing team as to which player was receiving the ball. Adelman always topped any "informal" list of all-stars during his career. For people who watched football throughout Canada, Adelman was often considered to be one of the tops in the country. Adelman's nickname was Rosy / Rosey / Rosie. This stems from one of his first football practices when he was a kid. The centre from the previous season was a kid named Rosenthal. The Coach referred to Adelman as "Rosy" and the name stuck. After his career, the Blue Bombers took Adelman's #1 out of circulation. It was not assigned to another player until the 1980's Disclaimer: my vote would have been for John Bonk but Adelman would have been a close second.
  7. For punter, I would include Jack Jacobs, Charlie Shepard, Ed Ulmer, Bernie Ruoff, Bob Cameron - possibly add Russ Rebholz, Jack Delveaux, Walt McKee, Jon Ryan, Mike Renaud, Justin Medlock For kicker, I would include Gerry James, Don Jonas, Bernie Ruoff, Trevor Kennerd, Troy Westwood, Justin Palardy, Justin Medlock - possibly add Greg Kabat, Bud Korchak, Alexis Serna
  8. Reg Threlfall was also Coach of the 1942 & 1943 Winnipeg RCAF Bombers who lost in the Grey Cup each year. The 1942 & 1943 RCAF Bombers teams are part of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers history. The Blue Bombers suspended operations on August 24, 1944 when the team learned that RCAF members were no longer permitted to play on a civilian team. Note: In 1942, Threlfall was Manager of the Winnipeg City League. He would visit the practices of all 3 teams (Bombers - civilians; RCAF Flyers - servicemen; Manitoba Bisons - students & civilians). Threlfall was Coach of the Winnipeg RCAF Bombers (combined team) who played in the west final and Grey Cup. Threlfall once claimed that the 1940 Winnipeg Blue Bombers was the best team he ever coached. The rules dispute in play in 1940 was regarding blocking down field. The WCRFU (which included the WIFU) had liberal blocking rules which permitted linemen to block downfield and backfielders to block up to the line of scrimage. The CRU (governing body of football in Canada which regulated the eastern playoffs and Grey Cup) only allowed linemen to block on the line and backfielders could only block in the backfield. The CRU made it known prior to the 1939 Grey Cup that unified rules would have to be in place prior to the 1940 Grey Cup if the WCRFU wanted to enter a team. Negotiations continued up to November 1940 without success. As the CRU kept a date open for an East-West Grey Cup game, it was determined that the Grey Cup in 1940 would instead be a 2 game total points series.
  9. I would remove Bud Korchak & Bud Grant from the list. Both players were better known for their offensive prowess and they played DHB when they were on defence. It is difficult to determine how effective Jeff Nicklin & Bud Marquardt were on defence. Based on game story information from newspapers, both players were quite involved on offence and special teams. Note: during the early days of the WIFU there were 3 primary ways to score a single. Deadline kick (ball had to bounce in bounds first) Touch in Goal (conceded single) Rouge (returner was tackled in end zone) From 1936-1945, the WIFU credited the point on a rouge to the player making the tackle (not the kicker). Nicklin & Marquardt were credited with several rouges during their careers. Here are some Grey Cup statistics for Herb Gray and Cec Luining Herb Gray 1957 - 3 DT / 1958 - 5 DT, 1 QBS / 1959 - 7 DT, 1 QBS / 1961 - 8 DT, 2 QBS / 1962 - 3 DT Cec Luining 1957 - 1 DT, 1 QBS, 1 Fum Rec / 1958 - 2 DT, 1 QBS / 1959 - 4 DT / 1961 - 3DT, 1 QBS In 2011, Steve Daniel (CFL) did a comprehensive video review of all Grey Cup games dating back to 1954. During this review, additional statistics were added to the Grey Cup history including tackles, sacks & forced fumbles - based on statistical scoring rules and conventions in place in 2011. Several other stats were changed in the process. Example: Ty Jones held the record with 4 sacks in one game (1984) until this review. Grover Covington (1986) now holds the record with 5 sacks (up from 3). I do not agree with changing statistics after the fact especially as many of the these stats were scored correctly based on scoring rules and conventions in place at the time.
  10. Based on depth charts and roster information that I have OLB - Kyries Hebert (safety in '07), Charlie Clemons, Maurice Kelly (safety in '98 & '03), Ike Charlton MLB - Greg Clark, K.D. Williams unsure about Antonio Armstong. Brian Clark & Ryland Wickman were MLB which would likely make Armstong an OLB in '00. Armstrong played DE until Wickman was injured in '01. He may have filled in at MLB for the final few games that year.
  11. Tom Casey was a starter on defence for his entire Blue Bombers career (1950-1955). He had 3 all-star nominations at DHB (1953-1955) and 3 more at halfback (1950-1952). It should be noted that the WIFU did not award defensive all-stars until the 1953 season. Up until 1952, the WIFU named 1st and 2nd all-star teams based on the offensive position. Official stats show Casey with 23 interceptions. The WIFU did not record interceptions until the 1952 season. Based on newspaper accounts, Casey had at least 10 interceptions in 1950 and at least 1 in 1951. That would give Casey a career total of at least 34 interceptions which is good for 2nd all-time on the Blue Bombers list.
  12. I'll admit that I have never heard of the monster position before. I found this on Yahoo Answers There are a number of variations in terminology - anyone remember the Jack position from 2011?
  13. Cool picture. Unfortunately it has been mislabled. The team wearing the Bison jerseys is the Winnipeg Victorias. The Winnipegs played the Victorias 3 times in 1935. Rebholz scored his rushing TD early in the 3rd quarter of the game played on October 5, 1935.
  14. Here is a little history on the evolution of player positions In the early days, the wingline (O-Line) consisted of 1 x snapback (centre), 2 x inside wing (Guard), 2 x middle wing (Tackle) & 2 x outside wing (End) The backfield consisted of 1 x quarterback, 3 x halfback The final position was a flying wing (FW). Flying indicated that the player possessed the speed necessary to make end runs (similar to a halfback). Wing represented the physical stature needed to fill on the wingline. The combination of size and speed also made the FW the ideal candidate to take the snap from centre on an extension play (similar to rugby). Mid 1930's - the increased American influence saw the modern terminology for the O-Line come into vogue. The 3 HBs became 2 HBs and a FB (fullback). American coaches were used to operating an 11 man formation and they didn't know how to incorporate the FW. During the 1940's the FW often lined up as a flanker simply as a way of staying out of the way. By the late 1940's, the FW started to become more involved in the offence as a true flanker (receiver). 1955 - Winnipeg adopted a new backfield alignment. HB FB FB HB 1964 - Winnipeg became the last team to adopt a more modern look to the offence. The ends were now defined as a tight end (TE) and a split end (SE). The backfield now consisted of HB FB HB FL (flanker) ~1970 - the wingback (precursor to the slotback) was introduced, replacing one of the HB positions. The wingback (WB) was used as a runner and a receiver. During the 1970's we saw the introduction of the term runningback which eventually replaced the HB. By the late 1970's there was another change in positions. The SE & FL were renamed wide receivers (WR). The WB & TE became slotbacks. The backfield now consisted of a RB & FB. Prior to 1950, substitutions were limited in Canadian football. If a player subbed out of the game, he could not return until the following quarter. As a result, players were required to play both ways which meant there were no formal positions for the defensive side of the ball. A common lineup could include E T G G T E on the d-line with HB FB C HB in the second row and the QB occupying a safety position. The FW would often lineup based on where the opposing FW was positioned. 1950 - With free substitutions now permitted we saw the introduction of formal defensive positions. Winnipeg ran a 5-4-3 lineup with DE DT MG DT DE on the line, CLB ILB ILB CLB as linebackers & DHB S DHB in the defensive backfield. MG = middle guard, CLB = corner linebacker. 1965 - Winnipeg shifted to a 4-3-5 defensive alignment. It saw DE DT DT DE on the line with OLB MLB OLB as linebackers and CB DHB S DHB CB in the defensive backfield. Winnipeg has also used a 3-4-5 formation (common throughout the Cal Murphy years). It saw DE NT DE on the line & OLB ILB ILB OLB as linebackers. I am not sure if this clears things up or just muddies the water a little.
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