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Did the same logic apply when Sam Hurl was starting at MLB back in the day? Oshea using his roster in a suboptimal way is not a new phenomenon.... but I feel like we go around and around and around about this all the time.

I'm fine with Logan being cut regardless of what happens with Vaval. Logan looked slow last year in his (granted) few attempts. I don't mind another competition there.

I am fine with Logan being cut. I hope this means they know Vaval is back for 2026.

Flip side is the training and treatment athletes get these days can allow for them to play longer. A lot of guys didn't take care of themselves properly back then... at least not compared to today's standards.

Logan looked like ass when he got into the lineup, whatever his injury was surely impacted him cause prior he was a pretty explosive guy.

Yeah we in pretty good position there with incubants and recruited guys...and we havnt seen what FA offers...tho like u said...we need to focus on both lines and WR Do u really need to ask with u know who as the coach...cause it could be asked at likely 4 positions at mi imum the last few yrs

JT still wanted to play tho...so not really on his terms...so we threw him a bone essentially As for Stan...he played just fineast yr and if he back he stays where he is...only change i could see is him and Randolph flipping He's earned the right to.come back and compete and show he still has it..and if he doesn't I can see him doing a Miller on the 6 game all yr or on the PR at full salary just in case and be that veteran presence to guide our young tackles and quasi coach All that said...ive seen nothing to indicate he is not still in the top tier of tackles...last yr for a good majority of our offence cant be viewed as for what it appeared...we were facked from day1

I can understand it due to the bonus, but I hope this means we are confident that Vaval is coming back

That's my worry about Eli. We've seen guys with less talent start over others for a hand full of games...if not entire seasons. But usually if both are still around there is a switch starting the next year. Eli has been here for 5 or 6 seasons now...? That's hard to over look. However, he has also been very good as the 6th man. So there's that to consider as well.

I'm not willing to roll the dice on Eli without at least trying to get a Centre in FA. There is a reason he never got into the lineup. I don't believe that if he was a better option he would have remained on the bench. The MOS argument is a dud because he has arguably shown more loyalty to Eli than most coaches would have after he walked away. If Marty believed that Eli was better I don't believe for one second he wouldn't have been playing. I truly think Kola was only intended to be a short term stop gap while we got Eli ready and that just never happened. I could be wrong, but it's just as likely as the alternative. My view is backed up by Eli only briefly being used as an injury replacement at OG, and then sat after playing horribly. I like Eli and hope I'm wrong but we have seen with our own eyes that he may represent zero upgrade to us.

Eli might be the answer, but we will not know until he has had a few games at center and we need to bear in mind that all those games where he mostly warmed the bench did nothing to enhance his confidence or game experience.

I don't understand the hills you choose to die on, sometimes. If he & the coaches think he can do it, then they'll move him over to Center or Guard. The guy can still play. No one says he can't. It's time to work in a new guy like Vanterpool at LT to protect Zach's back while he can help us inside. He can still perform outside as well.

Honestly having Streveler here on IR and basically interning as a coach would be a pretty smart move. Kind of thing an organization with cash to leverage should be doing.

🕖 1900 📺 TSN3 Last Ten: 3-5-2 @ 4-2-4 Season Series: MIN leads 2-1 Stats: 18-22-5 @ 26-12-9 Streaks: W3 @ L2 Jets projected lineup Kyle Connor -- Mark Scheifele -- Alex Iafallo Cole Perfetti -- Jonathan Toews -- Gabriel Vilardi Nino Niederreiter -- Adam Lowry -- Vladislav Namestnikov Cole Koepke -- Morgan Barron -- Tanner Pearson Josh Morrissey -- Dylan DeMelo Dylan Samberg -- Elias Salomonsson Logan Stanley -- Luke Schenn Connor Hellebuyck Eric Comrie Scratched: Gustav Nyquist, Danny Zhilkin, Isaak Phillips Injured: Haydn Fleury (bruised back), Colin Miller (lower body), Neal Pionk (undisclosed) Wild projected lineup Kirill Kaprizov -- Danila Yurov -- Mats Zuccarello Marcus Johansson -- Ryan Hartman -- Matt Boldy Vladimir Tarasenko -- Ben Jones -- Vinnie Hinostroza Marcus Foligno -- Nico Sturm -- Yakov Trenin Quinn Hughes -- Brock Faber Jake Middleton -- Jared Spurgeon Daemon Hunt -- David Spacek Jesper Wallstedt Filip Gustavsson Scratched: Tyler Pitlick, David Jiricek, Matt Kierstad Injured: Zach Bogosian (lower body), Joel Eriksson Ek (lower body), Jonas Brodin (lower body) Status report Barron returns after missing three games with an upper-body injury. … Defensemen Pionk, Miller and Fleury each is week to week; Pionk was placed on injured reserve Wednesday. ... Eriksson Ek skated alone and with the Wild on Thursday, but the forward will miss his third straight game. ... Bogosian, a defenseman, did not skate and will miss his fifth straight game; each remains day to day. … Brodin is week to week; the defenseman will not travel on Minnesota's upcoming three-game road trip. ... Spacek will make his NHL debut.

yeah, didn't see much from Logan last year that showed that he was still a CFL returner ... if Vaval is off chasing the NFL, would rather roll a rookie or a FA signing there.

If Eli is better, why hasn't he been the starter?

Little has changed with OL conditioning. They are asked to keep their weight up as a general rule and consume ungodly amounts of carbs and protein to do so. Tons have changed with the guys they line up against. They used to be carbon copies of the OL in the middle and were big men that could run a bit on the edge, now DL are chiseled man mountains that can run 4.5/40s. Take a look at a guy like Ceresna, guys like that didn't exist in Walby and Gorrell days. We won't re-sign him if Vanterpool is the plan. He's 40. We are not going to sign Stan to play inside. It would be bad for the ratio, and would hinder development of our young OGs. It would make no sense. There is no upside to it.

It's true that we wont know for a couple of games. We've used the heavy set pretty extensively, especially prior to Hogan's year. I'm not worried about his confidence or game experience. He's come back from two lengthy times away from football in his career, and hes not the type of guy you worry about confidence with. The question will be, does he do a significantly better job in pass pro at C than he did at G? He will be, at worst, a slight upgrade in pass pro at C over Kola, and a significant upgrade in run blocking, and in the nuance of playing C. That will dictate if he is a Couture-level or another stopgap. They also really value his contributions as a 6th ol, if we go back to the heavy set usage, they might want to keep him there.

https://3downnation.com/2026/01/14/cfl-sets-start-of-2026-season-as-self-imposed-deadline-for-new-broadcast-deal/ Well, same ****, different year. The CFL screwed itself 100 times over by going to a single game provider in 2008. The other networks basically said, Eff You. Now, they're stuck with a shitty provider who chronically underpays because they can do what they want. And a former TSN president negotiating with his old company?? What good can come from that?

Bell would be doing Johnston a huge favour by signing any deal before even a snap of Stewball has been played. They likely want to see what the game looks like and if it's digestible, if people care and if people still watch.

NEVER give up. Aaron Rogers made a comeback (sort of) after all.

I see SB Bruce Boyko #14 had a huge growth spurt over training camp that year.

Still have my CFL rookie contract from '97. Staying in shape in case they need me. https://grandmamma.com/2026/01/14/running-with-the-big-boys/

We have way bigger priorities than DB. Pickett is a luxury we don't really need on a team that needs quite a bit of upgrading in some pretty expensive areas

I’m a Gus fan. I think he has stood out at the moose games I’ve been 2. Him Yager and Fagemo (he’s slow tho and awful defensively but laine like release) have all looked good at forward. I’d call up Gus cuz he’s better than Nyquist Pearson and prob a few others. Solid defensively and great at face offs. Great at the pk also.

Darvin Adams was a fiery accountability guy, too, right? I recall hearing he had a big personality.

Name one good starting tackle at age 40. That is the issue lol. Basically, all Ts are gone long before that. He doesn't face any learning curve. We've seen DL play ol. We've seen guys switch sides. When you have the experience Bryant does, when you've set the line for that long and developed half the elite linemen in the league, you don't have to learn. You especially don't have to learn to move inside. Some guys have weird issues with switching left to right, more so than outside to in, but if you can play T, you can play inside mental blocks aside. Look up "The Tackle Age Wall". The best tackles in the world hit it and disappear around 32. The kick inside happens before that, primarily to guys who are below elite. Because Elite guys have the money and don't want to dimish legacy by playing to 40 and being a turnstile. It happens every single year in the NFL. If you look, you'll see there is a mass exodus from T to G across the board. It isn't a risky scenario. It's literally the safest one. There is no long-term. There is no medium term. Maybe not even a short term. It's day by day. And it's been a long time since the last good day. No one said we shouldn't move on from him if he can't produce. You've lost the plot and spiralled. Come back to the actual conversation point.

That really depends on the wear on them. Ive seen a ton of people who've reconditioned their hips and knees for extreme use changes in the 30s-60s (Bjj, yoga, muay thai) and its not only worked very well but drastically improved issues. Youd be surprised how many ex ol make moves like that (usually post-career) and how much of a positive impact it has. No one has the flexibility to get rolled up on, that's not a thing. if you get rolled up on from the side or rear of the leg, you are plain lucky to get up afterwards. No matter the age. Stan isn't our best T. If he comes back at 100% of where he was last year, he may not be our 2nd best T. A change inside for a guy like stan isn't relearning. Shortsighted? We are talking about a 40-year-old OL. At this point its about getting the last bit out of his career. There is no long-term anything; he's 40, and the year before last had to be carted off the field and hospitalized for dehydration. You keep saying moronic, even though kicking inside happens across all leagues, specifically to extend careers.

Knees and hips do not respond well to being reconditioned for an entirely different usage at age 40. Just getting out of the snap takes an entirely different muscle grouping than what a tackle is used to. It would be beyond moronic to even consider moving an OT to C at age 40. It's also not about the mashing, it's about keeping safe in the fray. 40 year olds do not have the flexibility to get rolled up on as an example. Relearning a new position at age 40 does no one any good, not Stan, not our team. If it was as an emergency thing sure. But how stupid would a team have to be to even consider taking their best OT and converting him to C at age 40. I can't put into words how dumb and short sighted such a decision would be. Moronic doesn't begin to cover it. We would be putting Stan at a position completely new to him, asking him to learn how to snap, how to use his body completely differently than all his pro career for what? The guy is 40...there is no long term benefit whatsoever. Like I said this isn't about his ability to get it done, it's about his age. He plays OT until he cannot do so anymore. Any plan other than that with a 40 year old player would hurt the team and be beyond moronic.

He was a good centre this past season, except for the snapping issues. If he can clean those up, he can be a great centre.

I would take him in a heartbeat. Christ we have people here suggesting we move Stan to C. Let's get a real centre so that we can end ridiculousness like that. It seems we are pretty desperate or at least the fans are. Or we can put the goat at a position he has never played, get him injured by the big men in the middle while learning how to snap at age 40. I could barely type that last sentence.

same. Especially sheed. idk if he’d be the best technical coach of the position, but his guys would run through a brick wall for him. He’s one of the best natural leaders we’ve ever had. sheed and yoshi showed more leadership than you’d think would even work in the pros. When ever a new guy would be inserted into the line up or especially start, you’d see them with him in the walk out and warm ups. Those two made me wanna run through a brick wall as a fan lol.

as a fan, would love to see this -- hated how it ended with Sheed.

Yeah he was out of the league for a long time after Winnipeg (1999-2011) but since he returned, he's coached almost exclusively for the TiCats. One season (2012) in Montreal, one in BC (2018) and now Ottawa - that's pretty stable for an assistant coach in the CFL. Definitely a lot of other coaches who have moved around just as much (if not more) or that same time period. BLM probably regretting his decision not to retire right about now... Hamilton Tiger-Cats sign Chris Kolankowski following release from Blue Bombers - 3DownNation

No problems here with bringing those boys back. You need some continuity in an OL. As mentioned many times, a quality C is going to make all the difference with this line. Thought the RT was quietly very solid all last year and if the behemoth at LG takes another step in his development, things are looking really good....

Why do people get so pissed off when a reporter floats a story?? It's speculation. That's all that it is. It's a ctually great when someone from Sportsnet talks CFL in January.

And we bicker and sqwuak like family haha