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To all you mentioning JT as a player coach

I won't make excuses for the losses but I think that the 2019 playoff run when Zach went from a barrel-scraping emergency replacement to a Grey Cup winner was the stuff of legend.

100% agree. I honestly believe Ray is the most underrated CFL QB ever. It's gross how good he was and that the league forced the trade to TO in a lame attempt to save the franchise by gifting them GCs.

56 LB Ja'Kobe Clinton 6'2" 230 (West Florida) 51 LB Johnny Hodges 6'1" 231 (Texas Christian) 78 LB Cohen McCluskey 6'1" 225 (Rifles)

Which is why I hated the hiring of Jake Thomas to be DL Coach. i envisioned that happening. It would be so easy for Osh to throw JT back in there to be a playing coach. We all know O'Shea would do it & Thomas would be happy to suit up.

What about “reports” from Rider fans who aren’t actually at TC?

I’m with on this for a variety of reasons one being we are trying to grow the league and attract new people to this game so coaches across the league should be helping by spicing it up adding some color into those default beige type scripted answers. Why not?

I am baffled that some are talking about KG as a top 10 QB and nobody mentioned Brock or Clements. You know who else doesn't get mentioned Etcheverry. Dude put up some numbers in the 50s and eaely 60s.

can easily be said our cup wins were not due to ZC brilliance...but the 3 losses...a lot of that could be hung on him...he was awful

love this, thanks!... but it does bug me to see Wilson listed at WIL with 3 better options listed behind him...

You're forgetting Moon. He's got to be in the convo. And there just isn't a world where I'm putting KG above Collaros in a list of all timers. The question on BLM vs Collaros is a good one. Both had fantastic starts to their careers...then fizzled....then came back, though on the ZC has an advantage on the come back....BLM advantage on the start.

So I was thinking about peak Collaros vs. 1992-1994 Dunigan and for me, it's Zach because peak Zach was much more durable and more clutch. Matty had teams good enough to win Grey Cups, but in 1992 the Calgary D owned him and 1993 he had an Achilles tear. Thinking about durability, though -- if you look at games before the 2000s, there was very little official protection for the QBs. Pass rushers would routinely torpedo a QB two or three steps after he delivered the ball, no flag. It's astonishing to see some of the hits that old-school QBs would pop up from. So it's kind of a function of the era that makes Zach more durable ... tho Zach doesn't seek contact like Matty did.

Yup int's in the 20's...totally common...Heck Danny Mac thru 30 a couple times and had several more seasons with 25+ and several seasons with more INT's than TD's and over 4k passing That being said Ol ZC has tossed 46 int's the last 3 yrs

Mid-season of the worst case scenario, JT in pads drives a car with a police escort to the airport to pick up Chris Streveler. Season saved, MOS dream come true LOL

And don’t think for a second that O’Shea wouldn’t pull JT out of retirement if there were a couple injuries inside….. That just sent a chill down my spine.

Hard to say. We've seen zach go off for 3-4 tds and 300 ish yards in a half or less a few times here. But we always took our foot off the gas and ended up pulling him. Zach would have a chance at replicating the production of that game, though not a fantastic chance. Thing is, Matty could've had more in that game. Yep, it didn't last as long as it should, but damn he burned bright in his prime.

I’m late to the QB conversation, but yup…. Dunigan was the first guy that popped into my mind.

AND all time best QB football IQ imo.

Yeah prime Dunnigan vs prime Collaros...Its Dunnigan for me everytime

I mean, pretty good first interview? Came across confident, but also humble and grateful. No red flags so far anyways.