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If he had 30 ints..id feel a bit better lol

Great.....AND I know you know the way to...... Not far.......The 3D young woman I saw awhile back will be right up his alley and he'll be up hers

thats a damn good analysis lol

Looks like a good prospect (according to ChatGPT 😂) Octavious Grabsemall – Player Biography Name: Octavious Grabsemall Age: 24 Height: 6'4" Weight: 245 lbs Position: EDGE College Career Grabsemall began his collegiate athletic path on the football field, quickly earning attention for his blend of physicality and burst. Despite limited early playing time, he flashed potential that had scouts circling. But after his sophomore season, he switched gears—literally—and transitioned full-time to basketball for his final two years of eligibility. The move was unexpected, but not unproductive: he refined his footwork, agility, and explosiveness while becoming a reliable two-way player on the hardwood. Those seasons sharpened skills—spatial awareness, verticality, body control—that translate seamlessly back to the gridiron. Return to Football & Pro Day At 24, Octavious returned to football with renewed focus and a broadened athletic foundation. His Pro Day performance turned heads, most notably when he blazed a 4.5-second 40-yard dash, an extraordinary time for a big-bodied athlete of his stature. Paired with his length, leaping ability, and basketball-honed coordination, he instantly became a high-upside prospect. Player Profile Size/Speed Combo: Rare for his position; creates mismatches everywhere. Basketball Footwork: Excellent body control, timing, and contested-catch ability. Physical Maturity: Older prospect at 24, but brings leadership and college experience across two sports. High Ceiling Prospect: Considered a moldable, high-reward athlete with potential to excel on special teams early and grow into a starting role. Strengths Elite Athletic Profile Long, rangy 6’4” frame with room to add more muscle. 4.50 speed gives him true chase-down ability and excellent backside pursuit. Exceptional leaping ability and hand-eye coordination from basketball background. Pass-Rush Potential Shows natural bend and flexibility for his size. Can corner surprisingly well on speed rushes—light feet, efficient stride. Raw but powerful initial strike; flashes knockback at the point of attack. Movement Skills Lateral quickness stands out—slides, mirrors, and redirects like a forward defending the perimeter. Smooth mover in space; can drop into flats or hook zones as a hybrid OLB. Closes ground very quickly once he burst-steps. Competitive Motor High-energy player who hustles backside and runs plays downfield. Coaches praise his toughness, coachability, and willingness to embrace technique refinement. Weaknesses Technical Rawness Limited recent football snaps; needs development with hand usage, counters, and pass-rush planning. Tends to rely on speed too often—must diversify beyond the outside track. Play Strength Functional strength is adequate but not yet NFL-ready for consistent edge-setting against top-tier tackles. Needs to add more lower-body power to anchor versus double teams. Older Prospect Entering league at 24, leaving a smaller developmental runway compared to 20–21-year-old prospects. Teams may question long-term upside despite athletic traits. Pad Level Can play too tall at times due to basketball posture; must learn to win leverage consistently. NFL Comparison Daniil Hunter (frame/length and raw-to-refined trajectory) Leonard Floyd (rangy, high-motor, hybrid EDGE) Margus Hunt (two-sport athletic background, developmental arc) Draft Projection Round 5–7, with potential to rise into Round 4 if he dominates private workouts and shows pass-rush promise in drills. A clear “traits lottery ticket” who could massively outperform draft position.

I mean how far off from creating a fully formed 3D rendering of this kid are we, really....?

ON IT!....'ll head right back to San Jose after xmas There's a DT guy I like too....Stanley "Stump" Hardwood ....

Technique and scheme intelligence plays a big hand in it...and self preservation too....also being smart Stan is known for his flop/fall to ground to protect his knees...gets a lot of good natured laughs about it from teammates doing it too....in heavy ttaffic pile ups and guys clamoring around after a play is executed when he feels or senses any hanging into his lower legs does the drop to the ground like he shot...if you actually watch for it you we see it at times....or wonder why a lot of the times he is on the turf....master of self preservation and never really had a severe knee injury in his career Now watch Kolo for techinque and intelligence.............. for sure...there a few I hope we already have written in...or should be...we have several ready for next step/step up

JT i’m telling you right now. Never you mind. Look away, find a hobby or something. ahhhhhh, that clears that up.

Unclear. The rest of the dream involved my dog getting an executive job at an AI company.

Now you better get AI on this ....I want to see this kid in camp

here's something I've always been curious about -- how on earth do OL play into their late thirties? how do Yoshi and Big Stan keep their footwork up to cope with freak 24-year-old speed rushing DEs? a guard like Neuf is getting heavy body contact on every play from jacked up DTs and generally will play the majority of snaps in a game. That's a lot of punishment to take over the course of a career and yet the dude is still doing it at a pro level (tho I guess opinions differ on this)

Not bad...you should turn professional

We shouldn't be doing anything until we can sign the guys we can't sign. And if we can't sign the guys we can't sign yet, we should then sign the guys who we shouldn't be signing until we can sign the guys we can't yet sign. It's really not that complicated.

he got good feet and moves real well....like his second level work...does seem a bit like Yosh...but more athletic....and yeah Cant see Lofton back with Vpool...Randolph...possibly Big Stan and this fella and Yosh was a big load and in all honesty grossly overweight even for an Olineguy...This guy is not that....and sometimes chances and opportunity comes in right spot...maybe this is his spot

I actually like the pick up of Stewart. He projects as a strong run-blocking RT. He hasn't played in the CFL in the regular season yet, but hes a big, mobile, nasty, strong pedigree in the run game, and is still young. I see a lot of Yoshi in Stewart, which I'm sure the other teams who've brought him in and had him around saw too. Love bringing this guy into camp to work with Marty. Maybe you look at sliding Rando to LT if big stan retires or moves inside. Probably means Lofton is done here. Sure makes it look like the OL will be more of a battle than it's been in a long time for camp. https://www.thedraftnetwork.com/2023/12/22/tairiq-stewart-scouting-report-nfl-draft-2024 https://ncataggies.com/sports/football/roster/tairiq-stewart/3801

yeah...should have said defensive as thats what I meant...and some juicy bonus targets on top....we wanna be on top again...we need to spend a lil in key difference making areas. Easy to recycle areas where we been wayyyy overpaying....get back to scouting and entry level guys.... "technically" we cant....I know other teams get in the ears of our guys pretty much as soon as last sNap of year was done...Not sure how our sleepy trio work as they rest on laurels and just assiume guys are gonna magically sign here...at some on discount...but they need to play ball like the other teams.. I would too if one was available...But an import one works for me too...as it makes pretty much anyone else playing beside him that much better....and yup...If it means cutting ties with another established Canadian...warm fuzzy story player...local...what have you...You do it...Nice stories and hometown hero at a crazy price....doesnt get you the big prize gauranteed

Smith is making 276, and Betts is making 266. Then Ceresna was at 246. The next highest paid defensive player in the league is Ford at 236k. If you pay him as a top 3 DL, I think you are in the range. Which is equivalent to a top 3 defender. I actually think the chances of him taking a fat deal up here are pretty good. He's 6'0, he had major knee surgery after he completed his college career, and he's 300lbs. He is very fringy in terms of size. We saw Stove go through the same thing, though Stove was a solid inch shorter and a handful of pounds lighter. Stove couldn't catch much interest down south after 19/21, but he did miss the start of the 21 season. His dominance down the stretch of 21 was 100% NFL-worthy play. Average DTs in the NFL are around 6'3, and they target 310-ish for weight. Some guys play under that, but it's rare to be short and light. If a team running a 30 thinks he can play the 4i, or a team running an aggressive 30 thinks he can translate at 3t, I think he gets a camp invite. But I don't think anyone is going to give him guaranteed money going into camp, especially off 1 year's success. I would offer the guy a 3-year deal, with a 100k signing bonus, and a 100k roster bonus out of camp the following 2 years. Then I'd give a base salary of 160k a year, and incentives of 40k each year. Something like 10k for 9+ sacks, 10k for divisional all-star. 10k (555$ for each game where he starts) and 10k again, split in 555$ per game where he takes the most snaps at DT, or more than half the snaps. That way, if he hits the NFL window, you don't burn off-season bonus money. He earns 260-300k a year, and everyone is happy. If he gets hurt, you recoup even more bonus money than just the base from 6 game stints.

My opinion...where he's at currently...what he posses' skill-set wise and his ceiling still to be realized...he's the marquee guy in FA and a top guy to target

set the tone...get in he ear of guys now....No reason we cant be big spenders....and target guys who dont fit last yrs ratio plan....that in itself has screwed us in FA as we had no desore of foresight to see that going in a different directing in some spots would make us better I'd give Hutching's Agent a deal that makes him top 3rd in salary for a DT in league, and also add some bonuses to it too....I know Kyle says he doesn't like to do that...well maybe learn to like it! I'd also grease the palm of the top WR available....If that means maybe losing BO for a guy like Mills...Butler....so be it....or just do your damn work and bring in a new back that posses' the right skill-set...they are plentiful down south.

Wait, so we're not signing anybody today? Mr. Garvey will not be doing intros at PAS next year? This day stinks.

It's a combination of factors, and a big dose of good luck. Not having had catastrophic type injuries, especially to your knees and hips, goes a long way. Because you aren't cutting at speed or running/jumping nearly as much as any other position, you don't get the no-contact injuries very often. What really gets guys in a bad spot for their career is when someone rolls up on the back or side of the legs. That kills careers. But also, if you are the hammer far more often than the nail, you will play longer. By playing on more great teams, especially ones that run the ball, instead of constantly absorbing hits, you are the one dealing them out. And you are far more often playing exhausted DLS late in games. If you are a road-grading type, you are also able to play longer, even when you lose a step and can't dominate pass reps anymore. It doesn't hurt that, in football in general, the OL prototype has changed to a far more sustainable model, and the gap between replacement level and all-star is so vast. You can backslide a very long way without playing your way out of the league. Ol also has some of the best resources for off-season training. The level of trainers available and the camp out there is extraordinary. It's only beaten by QBs, and has passed DL imo. Teams and trainers at every level are so used to taking big kids with upside and a severe lack of polish, and trying to turn them into useful players, that not much scares people off linemen. Most young guys would prefer to play DL over OL as well. So the kids who want it will always find their way to help. But it also means that older guys who have been hurt, like Yoshi, have an endless string of resources and chances to fix what's wrong and get themselves where they need to be. This is a big part of why the CFL focuses the ratio on the OL, and why it is the cornerstone of every team's ratio. the fact. The normalization and modernization of Ol builds have made a huge impact on longevity. We don't see guys having to constantly go up in weight for TC, or see teams pushing guys to be bigger and bigger. Guys 6'3 walking around at 295-305 with an athletic build are just a whole lot healthier than the old standard of 325+ lbs guys on squat frames. The growth of the importance of wingspan is wild, but those long guys often have a much better frame to carry weight.

we gonna sign a kid ...Octavious Grabsemall 6'4" big bodied guy....Ran a 4.5 forty on his pro-day but played last 2 yrs of eligibility in Basketball....24 yr old

I'd go as far to say any position this coming yr....open competition across the board...I not saying go all rookies/new guys, but nobody should be a defacto starter like previous yrs regardless if they were here last YR...2...3...4 YRS.....

of course....but early bird gets the worm....and if if anything it drives his price right through the roof to an unrealistic amount...it makes someone else eat it ...His buddy Hicks be a nice consulation price as a hybrid gy to play all over the line

Not sure what one has to do with the other? We can't go after Hutchings yet (if ever) so why shouldn't they look at other players, especially at other positions that we need help at?

I have my doubts he makes it to FA BUT IF HE DOES Kyle Walters needs to be on it and not acting like Sleepy Joe Mack.

Hutchings getting a few looks in the NFL right now, but agreed he should be a main target if he gets to FA.

Sunderland was a horribe GM. But then why wouldn't a CFL team bring a guy who was a horrible GM so he can destroy another CFL team? Make perfect sense.

Seriously?

I'd take him. But I like Nield better.

You don't like a QB making 600k when he has sparkling numbers such as 34 TD and 31 Ints over the last 2 seasons.

Ugh, Kian Schaefer baker is probably the most over rated receiver out there. I'd take a flyer on Gittens with a bounce back year though.

Thanks you guys! Def going to be watching for the Big Stan Flop next season.

Yeah...I nade him up ...an amalgamation/hybrid of some kids I worked with recently hahaha....sounds good tho eh?

I'm sold just based on the name alone. Someone call Key and Peele with that one. If he stays healthy and keeps him self in shape, He will make a serious run at it.

Yoshi says today on turd down he wants to play till 40......he just might make it

Right? The highlights, too. His build, especially in college, before leaning out, but also the way he rides guys into the ground and never gives up. If he ends up being half the player Yoshi was, or half the teammate, that would be a huge steal for us. But wow, they are dead ringers for each other on the field. We always muse on here about former great players becoming coaches, but Yoshi is the guy, more than the rest from the GC era, that I hope goes into it after he retires. That guy is such a fantastic person, leader, and field coach; he is exactly what the sport needs in the next generation of coaches. As much as I would love to have him end up here coaching linemen in the future as well, he could do so much good back down south coaching kids. The Tait article on Yoshi from years back is still my favorite of those articles. Such perseverance from him at so many points.

ni db is a rare ratio breaker especially out side of S. But you can always get canadians at other positions. Or going down to regular roster usage. Last year was not a great ni fa period out side of our guys. That’s pretty interesting. Kinda lazy on their end imo. Hamilton is gonna end up filling the spot with a guy no one else would have doing that job otherwise.

Not much of one. 509k is what he is worth. Not a discount. At the end of the day he's a 40+ year old QB. That comes with considerable risk to his team despite performance. I can agree with that. If we see a massive increase to actual SMS for player salaries then numbers change accordingly

Based on unfortunate observation I think that’s how 90% of people ‘research’ their topics when dispensing their wisdom to the masses on the world wide web. So how long did we sign him for?

I had a dream last night that we signed Elgersma.

I think Gittens and Demski would be a nice national receiving duo. Ayden Eberhardt may be poised for a breakout. Demski/Gittens/Wilson/Eberhardt and whomever as a 5th guy is potentially an upgrade over last year.

I like Robestelli as an up and coming import that may be an odd man out in Sask. Who shouldn't command a huge price, maybe not even second tier pay and KSB, sure some injuries, but again probably the odd man out in Sask. And should be in the second tier of Cdn pay, but has potential to be 1a,1b with Demski.

people tell me the team needs to "get younger" and I'm like isn't he our DC already?

Maybe the Argos could also sign Henoc, Kate and Glenn to ‘consultant’ roles.

So the positive news is that we no longer have to suffer through Barker on TSN.

Agreed. Which is why I have stated as a caveat to what I am saying that if we are not signing him that money must go directly to upgrading our starting NATs at skill positions or on the OL. The number for BO being bandied about right now is 300k. If we do that we are blowing our brains out on SMS.

Put Jefferson on a DL that gets pressure from the Tackles & I'm pretty sure you'd see his production increase noticeably. We talk about Koala bringing down the OL & how everyone suffers for his poor play... Take Thomas out of the mix, get some size & an actual run stopper at the 0 & 1 technique in a 3 & 4 man front & he'd be a different player.