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Team looks much better on paper across the board from last year. I think there's a lot of roster nitpicking going on, which is completely fair, but preemptive. The sky is not falling.

If the Bombers could win ten games with Hogan at OC I am sure they will win more with Condell who actually seems to know what he is doing. The defence and special teams should be just as good this season as last year. Sure there are depth concerns but after cut down day when every team has 45 players they're all razor thin at at least one position group.

Most teams are in a similar situation at QB. Davis, Harris, Adams, Rourke - injuries to any of them could sink that team's season. And some them are known for getting hurt

As of today, in my known expert opinion, the oline is better with the addition of Broxton and Kolo's departure. The defence should be really good. Brady is excellent. Wilson+White+Demski is a nice trio and I like Nield. The questions are how does Zach play? Can we stay healthy? How do we manage the ratio? Do we keep loading the roster with STers who can't/don't get reps on offense or defense? Best case, we win the Cup. Worst case we miss the playoffs. Likely case, we're somewhere around 10 wins and don't win the Cup.

Where are you even getting this from? Everything across the board is an improvement from last season. Zach looks good in practice. He loves targeting Wilson and White. It sucks that Wilson is out, but we still have some time before the season. We spent half a season last year with Demski as the only option and still hit 10 wins. The defense was great last year and only added pieces. Vaval is still returning kicks. Brady running behind an improved OL. Why the doom and gloom?

marty york level expert hot take there. We all know we are counting on a resurgent zach and any thing less including a significant injury has us cooked, short of another zach level miracle with one of the back ups or a trade. 1-2 imp wr injuries/busts will do about the same. If either of those happen, we are probably a 5 win team. May 7-8 if it happens mid to late in the year. The Defence should be exceptional. Even if things go bad on D, it should still be pretty good. Teams too.

Thats a good point too. The OL is gonna be really really good. Wallace looks to have taken a big stepforward so far too. It is really deep too. 100%. Unless someone hits on QBs in this league soon, the league is going to be raiding old folkes homes for QBs. Knew going into the off season no one was gonna fix QBing problems from with in the league. Next years FA qb crop probably wont be better either. Can confirm, sky not falling. Also, the ground is not trying to escape through by way of the air any more. All clear on the western front. We have a lot of solid upgrades from last year, and an addition by subtraction. Last years 10 wins was a bit of smoke n mirrors, but on the field I expect us to be one of the most improved teams in the league. We will be dumspter diving for Wrs, and probably for DL both ni and imp this year, which is frustrating. But its still overall an A- off season.

You don't have to be an "expert" to see we still razor thin at QB and a significant injury there likely kills our hope "Expert " sentiment isnt required either to see that after our 5 best recievers.. we are razor thin..zero experience let alone depth and no real front runner with exceptional talent to make a difference..which also goes back to the hope ZC has a renesaince again..but he also is a guy who doesn't thrive with inexperienced and less than stellar talent around him at this juncture The draft..was ok'ish but took a flier on a guy early who we didnt need to, and is a question mark for sure and is only gonna be a bit player as well while missing out on some guys who could likely contribute immediately...then went and took another flier on a guy already signed in NFL and back loaded the rest with a bunch of guys who really won't Crack.. or have no business cracking roster..just more low to no upside guys that we already had a slew of...that being said we nailed free agency so that's a good thing

So what I've gathered from MBB after one week of camp is that we completely pooched the draft, our recruitment on offense was garbage, and we're one offensive injury away from going 0-18...?

we gonna be a double digit win team this yr...no doubt in my mind...I am worried tho about our depth on offence outside the oline and rb. Excited about the defence...and how it's gonna evolve And if we have significant injuries to Demski and Neild....or have a National olineman...or 2 go down where we need to play 3 or more Imports (we have nice depth top do so so not worried there) then we are gonna have to go 3 national receivers, and we dont have the ponies for that...and Lord help ZC then as teams will basically take away White/Wilson and make him start pressing and forcing throws into bad spots...and we know he will as history shows....or lean on a middling group of Canadian receivers who will basically offer nothing much

Harris, collaros and BLM are starting qbs, we sure it's not already a thing?

We appear to be a very well rounded roster thus far. I am not willing to write off our receivers yet as it is pretty early, but we are likely looking for NAT DL. All in all though I would say that our biggest two problems from last year have been pretty solidly improved. Our OL, and our OC, should be a lot better and that is 2-3 wins right there. I think our receivers are also better overall as well, but I will have to see them in game action to know for sure. I really think putting Zac in a system he knows, understands, and loves is going to be huge for us at QB.

I will wait and see. I think that the riot act was read from above and we will see some different deployment this year. Agreed. We haven't even played a game yet and have no idea what our roster even looks like yet. I get that we have nerves around here about what our roster/deployment might look like, but let's wait to see it before we go all doom and gloom. We have a lot more talent than we did last year.

I think our roster composition and player deployment is going to get stupid and cost us a win or two (as it always does) but overall, the talent at the top is there. The scary part is it’s old. Brady, Demski, White, Pokey is definitely enough to compete on O, the D is going to be flying around, ST should be solid. I’m not worried that we’re going to lose 12 games, I’m worried we’re going to lose the last one because we’re old, beat up and not putting our best roster on the field. Does anyone believe that if the decision needs to be made in the playoffs, Kyrie Wilson with a torn hammy isn’t coming off the field? That’s still my concern.

As if we have an option for a backup QB in the recent free-agency 🤣 McLeod Bethel-Thompson Caleb Evans Shea Patterson Tyrie Adams Dustin Crums (MTL) Matt Shiltz (Retired) Jake Dolegala Harrison Frost Chris Streveller (Retired) Jack Coan (SSK) Jake Maier (OTT) Logan Bonner Chase Brice Jeremiah Masoli

I'm willing to give all the changes a chance to see how it works out.

The Bomber medical staff & Osh cooked him last season.

650000 in the US is terrible. That's like 65000 watching the CFL in Canada. The only reason they average 15000 a game is because St Louis pads the attendance average & even then, the Battlehawks are drawing significantly less than in years before as are the Washington Defenders. As far as the NHL goes, most markets are averaging 90% capacity at home for attendance. The UFL is failing badly. Just one guy is keeping that going. The owner Steve Repole who thinks operating a league fron a central location is better than individual owners, coaches & scouting. Yeah, it's working out great so far, isn't it?

Yup. That's what the sentiments of the "experts" here.

Stuart has soo much upside, sam/lber body with the athleticism and raw tools to run with wrs and cover. I’d love to have him on the ar early to play teams and develop as an actual db. He was a great sleeper pick. Idk if we’d have to hide him. teams don’t usually poach rookie drafted canadians if you pr em. idr the last pr poach at all. Pressure should be on both hallett and kelly. Ball really over achieved last year and had some flashes. Kid plays his heart out.

Probably the best example of a guy who flew under the radar of posters but turned into a ******* good player is Clarence Denmark.

Agree - He won both agility drills at the cfl combine this year posting a 4.01 shuttle/6.82 3-cone which for a 223 lb’r is impressive.

You should root for him - I am! Quick feet and good eyes!

Link from my nephew re camp video Stuart #7 For anyone interested. Not rooting for - just familiar with his play and think projects well.

My first post so go easy on responses:) I have to agree about draft pick Stuart (#7 - on D) - frankly surprised he hasn’t gotten more mentions from his camp - disagree with early comments he’s just a ST body. My nephew played with him at Mac so I’ve seen many of his college games and he’s a legitimate top tier stud - elite in coverage, in the box and he tackles like a beast. Here’s a theory - because he’s a non counter - wonder if JY is hiding him with the 3’s until roster trimming is done. Apparently JY talks to him regularly - would be surprised if he isn’t rostered as he’s been taking reps with the 1’s on punt, and regular D reps with the 2’s and done well. With his size (220+) and movement he presents a ton of options - Boundary Safety, Half, SAM or WSLB. My nephew sent a great cut up of Stuart’s camp performance (pretty impressive: multiple picks/PBU’s and dominant in battle drills) - I’d post it but I don’t know how to upload video attachments?

pace is a good get.

Turns out Warren Burrell has another connection to the club. Winnipeg Blue BombersBlue Bombers Training Camp | Day 8 - Winnipeg Blue BombersIt’s too long ago now to recount every detail, but Warren Burrell does remember this: Milt Stegall always had some gems to tell about Winnipeg, the Blue Bombers and playing in the Canadian Football Le

MOS and Younger decide who plays where. PERIOD. If Walters is giving orders on who plays where and when he should be fired. That would be gross over reach by a GM. Just to play devils advocate though, if KW did order MOS to move Kramdi to S, then isn't possible KW is ordering him to start extra NATs. That seems laughable to think a GM would do that doesnt it? If we are trotting out Corcoran game 1 that is an epic failure by both KW and KC.

It’s starting to feel like, a week in, it’s business as usual and we haven’t learned much. Still looks like we’re getting ready to trot out 8-9 Canadians for no reason and value experience above everything. It’s hard for these rookie Americans to get experience because irs a revolving door for them by design - we don’t give them experience and then fault them for not having experience. There’s genuinely no reason someone like Gavin Cobb or Joey Corcoran should be taking meaningful reps with the first team at this point in camp. If you can’t find an American rookie that can perform better than 2* Canadian prospects, what’s the scouting department even doing? And the lot default “they’re all starters and the Canadian provides roster flexibility” thing is so hollow, we don’t need the flexibility. We don’t even use the flexibility we currently give ourselves.

In Condell's system it's tough to label receivers as 1,2,3 etc. You have to be able to run every route and each receiver will get a variety of opportunities because there is a lot of variations on the route trees based off the defensive call. I mean every OC does that to some extent but Condell is very good at it. He's good at getting mismatches and getting his receivers isolated in space. Watch White the past few years as an example.

I am paying a lot more attention to this camp because of the lack of Jets playoff hockey and a perhaps misguided hope that this year will be better than last season with a new attitude and a new O coordinator, and a new center...and a massive upgraded Jake on our DL...anyway...getting very excited for this season. LFG!!

Yeah....Dixon and Jenkins look to be front runners but nobody is really separating themselves from the pack. Bailey needs to be played, you can just see he has multi tool talent and a motor that just goes...he was 100 percent all day today...and thats par for the course. One interesting guy I noticed and like is that Michael Fletcher...think he a bit knicked with a thigh issue but powered thru it. Even at less than 100 percent he just moves and reacts real well for a big dude and could see him useful off the edge and inside...For me he was one the guys that first popped out for me and he has a interesting skill set and a long but sturdy body. I could see him opening eyes in the pre-season games What also popped out for me right away...and this isnt good...Save for White..Pokey..Demski..Neild..Clercius we have a real buttload of crap and WR currently. And if we are going to go 3 nationals...god help us...pray for ZC cause it will be ugly. Some of the first unit work today...With Demski and Pokey missing mind you had combos of Corcorran...Cobb...that Fredricksen (who has zero explosion and can barely get separation for a big guy and no speed) and I think the rookie Derosier??....puuuuke....Other than Cobb the other 3 are not pro receiver quality and do absolute nothing with the ball once they get it....Keshaun Smith, and TJ Harris look like once acclimated could be quite useful, and possibly singer...But the rest see ya later..if somebody doesnt step up...or if we break camp with some injury issues....we have worst unit in league easily....again And if being honest after Demski....Clercius and Neild the next best guy, and one who looks to have best upside is that Joshua Jack...Daniels cant be and shouldn't be expected to do much other than big packages and goaline area stuff where he just needs to chip block and seperate from the line and just win a jump ball or take a quick hot pass and head north Yeah...Griffin is or should be the SAM...Dude can ball...he's athletic enough to cover top receivers in man and he's built to punish in the run game...plus he is very assignment sound. Kramdi at safety and kind qb'ng from there if he as smart as they claim is the best use of him. Allen not sure if they see him as the corner...or the swiss army guy rotating in with 2 safety sets and dime work. Major Williams and Burrel stood out to me at DB...I think they are 1/2 right now for the vacant spot forgot to mention...That Mazzccua I can see PR'd...Dude is just a beast...and a thug...he would be a bone jarring mauler of a guard...I liked watching him A side of the oline with Eli..him and Broxton woukd be a RB's wet dream with paved roadwork all day long