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I don't get the fascination with Tony Jones. He's an average MLB and we're on year 3 of him and we seem to treat him like he's 2018 Biggie.

I think Cobb is a serviceable player. I would roster 7 recs (two Cdn backups) if we’re starting three. We need more depth.

I find it interesting about the comments about fielding the same team lol our roster is built from returning players, free agent signings and the draft. Most teams aren’t looking to fill several starting spots in training camp and if they were they would be in a lot of trouble. I don’t see how we’re different than any other team in the league. Most of the opportunities come from injuries, I think we’ve done a decent job of bringing in young guys to replace veterans of the past two/three years. We were a very old team. Besides Zach Bryant/patty and Willie we have a relatively young core. None of the players I mentioned were going to be going anywhere this season. I think the team showed it can move on from players.

I will say this though... going from Jake to Jake at DT is going to make a tremendous difference in the effectiveness of the defense as a whole. Let's just hope the old guys aren't cooked by the time playoffs roll around

The bottom line for me is that Walters and O'Shea have broken faith with us fans and even though we do not know what went on behind closed doors, it seems we no longer trust them implicitly. I am willing to be proven wrong, but apart from Elgersma, we seem to be pretty much in the same situation as we were in the past 2-3 years. There is plenty of blame to spread around.

we’ve seen more then 100% turn over in scouts from 19/21 to now. even with different scouts we see the same problems. For one, it’s extremely rare that you find a top contributor from scouting at a position of need. Generally, teams excel at developing/scouting/using a couple positions and the majority of their young talent develops at positions of strength. For two, outside of extreme outlier players/positions it’s usually the 2nd year players who take massive steps. This is where roster management kills us. You could have the right guys, but not use them/keep them and each year repeat the same struggles even despite talent brought in. So who’s at fault? well the staffs have mostly rolled over. Mos, walter, and mac are the remaining common pieces. Mos’ weakness exacerbates walter’s issues. mos is 100% at fault, and walters is also 100% at fault. no splitting it. That said, it is walter’s job to mitigate and prevent compound issues like that. I will say that I feel like we’ve seen a bit of growth this year getting away from some of the issues. how much and if it’s enough, will depend on how the rosters look in the first month. I will add that the camp talent level the two years is trending in the wrong direction. And I think danny mac’s’ position is too cushy for how high he is in the org. I think we had a lot of answers at the positions of need this camp. But I think our roster direction is Atypical and risky. 3 ni wrs, 3 imp ol, defensive front etc. The only direction if this doesn’t go well is whole sale change at high level positions. We’ve put together a very strong potential roster. If our old guys stay healthy and if we play the proper young guys.

Yeah. We find some good DBs and pretty much bugger all else.

I fear we are mostly back to the same old, same old O'Shea roster.

There's literally like 200 Aussie punters sitting by their phones in the US waiting for a gig. If we needed one here tomorrow, we could have one. Based on pre-season, there's very little point to having both Gatkuoth and Bailey active. They are both going to have same utility as 2nd and long rotational ends, with limited utility on special teams. I'm guessing they offered Bailey PR because he doesn't take a spot from anyone else Canadian or American on the PR. Would be nice to get a look at Vesterinen as an interior guy if he shakes loose from NFL Pathway Program.