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The way you talk about players is so weird, especially for a guy who has been fairly open about how they don’t think their son got a fair shot during their collegiate career. You don’t think these men exhibit character or leadership? Why? Because they appear to have made a personal choice based on how they want to run their life? I don’t understand why you choose to continually project your wants and desires as a fan of a sports franchise onto these guys who are literally just quitting a job. That’s all it is for them. This doesn’t have to be “they don’t have the character to persevere through a rough patch”, this literally could (and likely is) as simple as “they don’t wanna get paid a low salary to be far away from their families when they could earn equivalent or better back home” (PS not too torn up Wilson left, I think he was option number 4 at this point anyways and I like that it forces the team’s hand to NOT go with the established player)

Just like Noeller

Condell demands a lot out of his QBs, and maybe Thorne and Wilson just weren't getting the new system.

I find it extremely strange that two QBs are walking away. Extremely unusual. Even if Wilson could see the writing on the wall, he should at least keep grinding in case someone gets hurt or something else happens. Don't cut yourself, make them cut you. He still could have won the #3 job and had a nice football salary for another year. Very, very weird.

it's not exactly a high bar... I mean who else is in the conversation? The sex pest?

Watched Thorne interview shortly after he signed here and he sounded pretty ready to move into coaching. Like wasn't counting on having a pro career. Wilson maybe not seeing progress for himself in working up the depth chart but also the game is the chance to win a job. Could be something personal too.

One guy leaving that's not weird... two guys leaving early. I can't remember ever having 2 qbs quit before even getting a chance in a pre season game. Are we recruiting bad character players? Are the guys being treated like ****? Do we just have bad luck? Condell pissing people off? It would be nice to have a reporter speak with the guys and get their side on why they left.

We are talking about the 4th and 5th QB on the depth chart who are (or were I guess) current making less than you could be making on EI right? It's nice to have a romantic view of a team and comradery but at the end of the day it's a business. No one really knows what's being said inside the locker room. You hope that guys are being accurately appraised of their situation. I don't think you can begrudge these guys from seeing the writing on the wall and deciding to go home.

Davis Alexander is already hurt again.

That O'Shea allowed the travesty that was Hogan to continue all season when even the most optimistic fan saw it as such says volumes about O'Shea- and even Walters.

Elgersma looked legit. Can make all the throws and easily. Wilson? Not so much. Probably saw the new kid come in and throw 40 yard darts downfield and said yeah I’m out of here. Oh well. lol at MBT or any other veteran cfl backup. Why would they do that. Why does the QB need cfl experience cuz the QBs out there are not potential starters. Why bring in guys you know who will never start. If Zach gets banged up it’s TE or BP time. Crazy thought. Maybe just maybe TE and or BP can be starters in the league. Worst case they are crappy cfl backups who just are backups their whole career or maybe they can be franchise QBs. Cuz CFL desperately needs new blood at the QB position, recycling never was and never will be’s is just crazy talk.

All I know is tomorrow is going to be VERY interesting. In some ways, Condell's job just got way easier, but if both TE and BP look like ****, it just got way harder. Pray for the former...

Brilliant. Will be stealing and passing off as my own. As to the rest of the post, I just think this was the plan all off season. We never brought in a vet QB, even before Ermergerdsma was signed. Perkins was signed with the hope that he could fill the Streveler role. Whether that’s purely SY or the primary backup will likely depend on how the preseason goes, but I’m putting my money on Ermergerdsma.

Hot Take: They saw how good Elgersma looked and decided they had no future and left.

It's not terribly hard to see why either guy left from a football stand point. As a P4 QB, it's possible that Thorne made more money than Collaros last year and he was likely going to be on the PR. It's possible that Elgersma is going to be QB2, and Wilson would be going on his 3rd straight year of QB3 if he were to beat out Perkins. Yeah you are playing professional football, but at what point do you pull the plug? He wouldn't be the first person to quit after a few years of not getting Second-team reps, and he won't be the last I'm sure.

Honestly that is fantastic news. If he has that kind of mentality then buh-bye. Always thought he would never develop.

I'd argue glue guys are different than the undefined intangibles guys. Hallett in his prime = glue guy. Undefined intangibles with no obvious skill or team benefit guy = Corcoran, Damian Jackson.

You have to have those glue guys. They make a difference. It can be argued we may have too many but if you have none you are the Craig Dickenson Riders...lots of talent half arsing it.

This whole we love guys due to undefined intangibles BS needs to stop.

I HOPE, that this is a case of we need to know what we have in Korny and see if a roster move to fill the back up is needed now. (It is) And that we want to run Corcoran, Cobb and fredericksen against each other for the last wr spot. It would make sense since we are doing the same with Texada and Burrell. I hope Clercius gets lots of reps at Slot. I will be sick if we cut him for the also-rans who can't run.

I haven't either, but I wasn't looking for him either. But something I did notice is that everyone is talking about the great improvement with Condell in how strong a communicator he is. Also, his great attitude. In the past years, I saw considerable frustration and angst between Zach and both Hogan and Buck. At first, I thought it was a looking too hard at it thing. But so many others in the organization and media have echoed the same things about Condell. I don't think Zach was taking shots, nor was anyone else. But I think the interpersonal issues with Hogan are not understated. Having a normal TC, and not throwing out the playbook come the regular season is going to be a massive boon to our offence.

Cobb is practicing in Demski's spot and Corcoran is filling in for Cobb at field WR. Clercius is at SB on the second team. We'll see how that shakes out when camp is over.