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To me it looked like Walters got passive and did not challenge O'Shea on his player utilization, likely because O'Shea had accumulated an aura of infallibility, or maybe Walters just trusted him and gave him carte blanche. In his recent presser, Walters had a completely different tone to his statements than in previous pressers, and maybe he had a fireside chat with Miller. Its difficult to understand Walters' thinking in not going all-out for a Grey Cup game at home. Many fans and players will not have a second chance to see their team win The Game at home. It would have been legendary.

I talked to Neufeld, Sheahan and Cadwallader at Festival du Voyageur this weekend. Neufeld had an interesting comment--said the team looks a lot better than last year. He mentioned playing against Ceresna and lobbying hard to get him here.

That's not what Booch is saying... He is saying he doesn't know how to maximize the talent he already has. That he's played favourites with guys for many years who had no business being on the roster anymore. Like Koala & Thomas to name a few.

yeah...was a major part, and we also never truly allowed guys to actually develop and show they had the chops.....rode our guys into stubby nibs with zero practical experience behind them I not really of the opinion the scouting failed us for the most part.....more that Osh isnt a really good evaluator of talent and some thje things in his mind that he deems important, don't translate on the field or always are the best option skill/performance wise....History here shows when he is handed great talent/established talent in their prime he seems like a genius but when he has to at times sift thru it and inearth players handed to him or creaye solutions on the fly....big swing and a miss more often than a hit

Walters & Osh should have both been let go when their contracts were up at the end of last season. They got a reprieve from Miller. Probably told to smarten up & actually do their jobs. Walters certainly took that to heart. Now, we'll see if Osh can get back to where he was in 2019.

It would have been real enjoyable to be around here if his answer was ‘Oh no I feel real good, I was chatting with Jake Thomas and I’m thinking I have a good five or so quality years left in me’.

Gotta say, I listened to the Collaros presser and I think Hodge took a partial quote and turned it into way more than it was. Collaros was asked if he ever thinks about retirement and he said he does. He was asked "so you think there's a chance this might be your last season?" And he said "sure there's a chance" but he also said that he feels great and that as long as he feels he can perform and help the team win, he's going to keep playing. He also said he likes the 1 year deals and just playing it by ear. So I wouldn't get too hung up on any potential ZC8 retirement announcements...

To date, best line written in a comment section about the Tkachuk brothers: If they weren't hockey players they would be ICE agents.

Exactly. Lots of hype for a guy that may not even make a CFL roster never mind the NFL.

Nothing... absolutely nothing.

Yeah he played the in prime talent Walter's plopped in his lap...top guys across the board in the league at many positions....bookend those 2 yrs with what we seen...not a lot of answers and success...People will say "hey...first pace finish....5 straight cups"...yaddda yadda...but when the chips were on the table we lost more than we won...and had zero answers for a lot of things leading up to the big games...and got out coached in all them...and really if not for a dumb Ticat decision in the second cup...we'd have lost 4 of the 5 Sure I can say he had a hand in it...But wasnt the sole reason tho....But can say he was one the key and main reasons tho for the successive failures yr over yr This yr Walter's has woke up and again handed him the tools for a push to be first again...big question for 2026 is Osh gonna be a HC who utilizes it, or is he gonna be a HC like we seen the last 4 yrs and eff it up with dumb decisions?....time will tell Bingo...this will be a real test this yr as to what Osh has and is all about....We cant blame Walters this yr...he purged some dead weight that should have been yrs ago...signed the 2 best lineman on each side of ball...2 legit receivers....and our key FA that we couldnt afford to lose Now it's up to Osh to assemble the best group based on talent...upside...usefulness outside of ST's....and not a team based on his personal opinion and bias....can he do it?

The Commish and his team should be doing everything to help the Stumps get a new stadium that would help build this league.

He's been here since 2014 and won his first grey cup in 2019. Thinking he had something to do with that talent.

Our biggest problem last year IMO was that we lost both lines of scrimmage. And it was especially bad on offense because we had virtually zero game breaking receivers. How that came to be can be debated. But, I am glad they spent on both lines this off-season.

It's hard to even know if money is a factor for Elgersma. Really if he signs here he'll be standing on the sideline, getting a few reps in practice (teams are prepping to win games, not develop rookies in practice) maybe running short yardage although they've brought in guys that seem to be better prospects for that. If his goal is to make the NFL more than anything else he needs to go somewhere he will get reps....which is NFL preseason or UFL. But he's really wasting time now because the path from CFL to NFL is to play up here for 2-3 years, take the reins and dominate, then go NFL. The longer he waits by the time he gets up here he's basically cooked for NFL opportunities. And if he signs after training camp up here there's really no point in terms of his development. That's when he's going to get the most reps and get settled.

Part of what FIFO was here...was being key was a bog solid group of guys in prime...setting the tone and walking the walk and new guys coming in seen it...and fell in line...Premium guys kicking butt cause they earned it from play Then it slowly eroded away....positions were given due to past history, and being a favorite...even if not warranted and guys busting their asses also seen it, and never got a chance and yes...it caused rifts and frustrated attitudes...and why wouldn't it? Our younger up and coming guys who could have kept the dominance going walked for opp's elsewhere, or we wouldn't pay and cheaped out in order to keep far too long declining guys, and guys not good enough just because they were here from before and the HC liked them...all the while ignoring our actual true depth (having guts on roster isnt depth if you dont use them, or have faith they are good enough) eroded into league worst The holdover's got complacent and too comfortable knowing that thy just had to show up and keep the narrative here and they were safe....and the coaching staff did jack all to advance and evolve as well...What have we seen from osh with a unique decision...gutsy or ballsy call to take a game over...Pulling a player mid game....or parking a vet for poor performance?...We havnt...but we saw a lor of deflection...smug attitude and a lot of perplexed almost lost looks on the sidelines when things were spiralling down hill and weren't working no more, and no ability to pull out of it...Just the old "we will watch the film...guys will figure out what went wrong and fix it"...and it never happened Thats the condensed in a nutshell look at 2022 to now

What it says to me is that FIFO was way overrated with Osh. You can't expect players to fitin if certain players are coaches favourites. If a player should be benched & demoted then that is what should happen. Not given special chances or more opportunities to **** up. We saw that with a number of players over the years. You build a culture as a Head Coach then you have to make sure that it never changes. I think that's what happened to the Bombers. It went from FIFO in 2019 to Old Boyz Club in 2023-25. Younger guys saw & experienced that & wanted out. Needed a reset.

Kyle Connor has fallen out of favor with the United States once again Can we keep the politics out of these discussions please? Thanks.

With Collaros indicating that this year may be his last, maybe knowing he won't be sitting behind a future hall of famer for another 2 years is enough for Elgersma to want to come up?

Yeah he is a player we have rights to...support them all....but he basically is hype and hope at this point...and the longer he dilly dallies down a dead end road...the longer he is delaying this process and proving anything...and he is getting older at same time with no evidence of anything...which dont help his cause He should suck it up....win a job here....shoot the lights out when he is still very young and if NFL teams see the possible talent...then he can get a more legit shot coming in as a successful starter in Canada...but **** around for couple yrs...stunting your growth while u wait and being 26..27 already if you do show you may be worth a look, and even then it will be as a prospect and a developmental type thing...You basically aged yourself out as NFL teams wont put in the time and money on a guy that may not show it until he 30ish...especially a guy coming with his background

For me i don’t mind the hype whether it’s warranted or not because at this stage he’s a prospect of ours and we always hold hope a prospect works out for us until it does or it doesn’t. Keep it simple and manage our expectations appropriately. Also, this just in, Riders continue to suck royally, report at 10.

nothing really indicates until he even gets up here and makes an attempt if he will even see success here...He's a Canadian high school trained...then CIS trained QB...NOT a glowing resume by any means.....When has the last Canadian trained through high school then College QB has had any real success up here?....Gerry Datillio?? Ain't gonna happen for him anytime soon...if ever....Give him props for the self belief i guess, but cmon man.... His best shot for any real legit NFL attempt....and even this is a longshot is to come up here....Win a job as a starter by shooting the lights out and show he has the advanced mind/processing ability in the pros's and put up Rourke like numbers ...or better before, Before Rourke got his somewhat legit chance....and even then he had NFL polotics against him...Elgserma's are even worse against him being a 100 percent product of Canada..At least Rourke went the prep school route, and then had success at the NCAA level, and that wasnt even enough for him

What the **** does Crosby's game status have to do with Morrissey??

Thank God for Mitch Marner. So if Crosby is out will it be a good time for JMo to get back in? He was scratched for today's game

Totally agree on those points but think he's had a significant say with the talent brought in over the years

I was told recently that if I study & work out hard that maybe I can still be an astronaut at 70. My lifelong dream, btw. Should I believe whoever said that because that analogy is just as silly as 6, 7 or 8 failed attempts to even get a roster spot in the NFL? Then it becomes a losing self fulfiiling prophesy. It's even gone past the point of wishing the guy well. It just reaks of desperation.

Elgersma should play in the UFL this spring and see if the NFL comes sniffing around. UFL training camps start up next week so we will know soon enough if he plans on going that route.

I think the Ol still performed as we had Brady reach 1,100 yards rushing despite Hogan ignoring his rushing abilities at times. The upgrades we have are going to help. On D, it was the DL that was such an overall weakness. How it was allowed to deteriorate is something I'd like to know. You win championships with a dominant line. Not sure if I'm happy about playing a 3 man front. We'll see.

The best thing Elgersma could do right now, as it looks like things have dried up down south, is to have a serious talk with Rourke....Nathan could set him straight about the situation he finds himself in at present.....Best advice ....sign with Winnipeg.....get your feet wet in the CFL for a couple of years, then make your way professionally ...I don't know who is currently giving the guy advice BUT it really doesn't sound or realistic.....The kid has got to make a decision soon before the clock runs out on his career With Zack hinting today on third down that this could be his last season AND the possibility that we'll be looking for his replacement .....might motivate Elgersma to start thinking BOMBERS

Honestly I think the root cause was hanging onto expensive guys too long and not moving on sooner. Helps balance how your cap is allocated and increase the overall competition. Just my opinion anyway.

thats where u have to see past the present and realize/decide when to walk away from certain vets and starters and have already put time and into the successor's and not look backwards and pay mightily for declining older talent who command a bigger pay cheque....we failed in that regard in a huge way....we also failed in our rigidity in how we used ratio and missed out on a lot of ralent we could have went after, rather than just clinging to pieces that were on the wrong side of their best before date, but still commanded bigger bucks the inferior player should regardless of their tenure here....or their nationality...or if it's one of Osh's love affairs...and if it's a saw off....the one who is younger and may have more upside within them...not the one who only has downside not necessarily....our draft strategy was nit the best approach either.

Okay fair statement so quality depth is out of the question cuz we need to eat our cap to get quality starters. Yes?

Also big struggle with US scouting. Let Hardrick walk and replace him with a C player. Let Lawler walk and replace him with Wheatfall. Too many of our replacements haven’t been good players let alone impactful ones.

thing is...he can sign with caveat he can request his release if a team kicks, or wants to kick the tires all the while getting his rookie salary and developing and getting pro exposure....There are bird dogs in stadiums up here all yr...at all times (practice and games) so would prob lend to more attention than sitting at home...making nothing Dude has a good arm....not elite...and NFL QB height, tho even that stereotypical thing in this age isn't was it was He had success in Canadian College ball...that is it...think about that...80 percent of rosters he played against at best are not even comparable to Prep School talent in the U.S let alone NCAA div 2 or 3 talent....so that success is pretty limited, and it has shown in that after his on flier h got from GB that he hasnt landed anywhere else...even with the big QB talent issues in the NFL after teams starters for most part.....he looked okay in the one pre-season but also was playing against guys who will never see another NFL camp again....Rourke has sucess against guys who are and where part of active rosters....and look what that got him....dickall...but he got wise and turned that into a big CFL deal dealing him if he for whatever reason doesnt wanna be here...which I dont think is the case wont land a pile of talent or picks in return, as why would it?...he is all hype and hope and thats about it right now....He just getting bad guidance right now and reason he not up here actually bettering himself for another possible camp

Sure does feel like a reset has happened. Here’s hoping it results in us climbing back up to dominance, the gold standard of the league where we belong.

Elgersma's actually ******* himself over without realizing it. He hasn't had a tryout in weeks. Teams are now turning attention to college pro days, upcoming NFL Draft & college free agent qbs that probably won't be drafted. With the new qb crop, he'll slide down even further. It's his (career) funeral. I'm sure he has lots of stories about his NFL travels, how great Matt LaFleur & Jordan Love were when he's in the qb room with his guys at Laurier. They'll just gawk & go, "Wow!!" Stupid is as stupid does.

You’re right to pay up. There’s not enough trust in the world.

pretty bad dynamics that a HC would succeed to another players bitching....and that sure doesnt sound FIFO 'sh to me of ZC....Maybe some players should have berated his crap play/errors and got him parked on bench...should go both ways ....no?....sad state that apparently is

Nfl tc money is not the same as pr though. Last year, players with less than 1 year service got 1850 a week. this year that goes up to 2k. For a full camp, plus the pre season games, guys with less than a year service get around 11-15k. Which is in the range of 15-20k canadian, before taxes. It only takes a couple weeks on a pr to out earn a cfl deal, but elgersma isn’t in that position. He as of yet hasn’t gotten a futures contract or camp invite even. To get that, he will now have to beat out an entire new rookie crop. This based off a preseason appearance, and a cis resume. He isn’t rourke, and rourke has basically no leverage and got barely a shot. I understand chasing nfl pr money, but he isn’t making some easy, economically sound decision. He’s gambling for more money with a pretty small chance of wining. The time to get a look now is counting down his nfl widow days after a cfl deal as well. If he kicks around for another year then comes up, he puts him self in a tight spot. He turns 25 next month, it’s going to be 2 years before he would get nfl consideration if he fast tracks to success. At that point he’s 28 for the next nfl camp, right at the end of his nfl window. I get it, but it’s long term, short odds gambling. At this point, I’d be happy if we traded his rights and sold high on him.

None because this isn’t even what was reported. It was reported that Clercius made some mistakes and was criticized by Collaros for those mistakes. No where has it been reported that Clercius criticized Collaros.

There isn't any explanation, other than failure to recognize the player(s) is incompetent....What measurables used by Osh to make his decisions are tough to pin point....The 2 players you mention were obviously not good enough ....one due to 'best before date' long expired, and the other was out of his depth at the position or as some have put it 'just plain crap' ...I don't know why they were not treated the same as Clercius and benched....only Osh can answer that...It certainly smacks of favoritism and if you allow that to permeate your club ....one day it will all catch up....Seeing as both players are no longer on our roster maybe the coach has had a revelation...One can only hope ....I won't hold my breath

clercius is 26, and started for a bit over a year and a half. Stoddard was in the league 9 years and broke 500 yards twice. Clercius last year was better than 5 of stoddards 9 years in the league and on the heels of his 6th best year. its a terrible comparison, if any thing corcoran is a poor man’s stoddard in a far better era for ni wrs.

no he doesn’t. watch him run routes, watch him run with the ball in his hands. Hes done a great job of putting up yac too. he only gets looks when cover is busted or completely off him. he can’t get open vs any cfl defender. People are soo quick to forget that clercius has caught 72 of 97 targets in his career. with 10.6 yards per catch, vs under 9 yards per for corcoran. Which is brutal. Take a look at how many wrs had under 9 ypc, and how many of them had good seasons. Over 50 guys, and one good season. Because it’s easy to catch em all, when you’re underneath the coverage and barely off the los.

Clercius isn't slow. 4.5 speed, one of the fastest few in his draft year. Almost the same speed as Mital. He plays the spot he does because he's also outlier strong with great size and tremendous blocking skill.

Yeah, and I can’t see zach being that fragile. hes also a guy who has always tossed it up and hoped for the best. his touch hasn’t been the same for a couple years either clercius doesn’t seem to fit that either. this is a guy who stayed at his college despite them moving on to younger guys because he was way off their time line to be good. he accepted a role blocking playing teams and helping develop young guys. I don’t see him suddenly being all ego and speaking out against his qb

Do not like how he lumped Corcoran in with Clericius. Clercius is a wr with tremendous raw tools who has caught everything thrown his way. Corcoran is like Wade Miller on a low-battery mobility scooter.

I’m more impressed with celebrini. Dudes a star. Makes me think Bédard should be there also. And I don’t like how they put makar in there with McDavid and MacKinnon. Aren’t D men supposed to play D? Also the instant leafs mentioned post game by duthie was just disgusting. Nobody gives a **** what leaf fans think. This is the Olympics.

I don't know how you rebuild a fractured fanbase with ownership & management decisions like this. The Stamps GM & HC Dave Dickenson recently announced that the team has no money to go after any impact CFL free agents after re-signing some of his teams own free agents prior to the tampering window. They also lost 3 starters on defense to the NFL & haven't replaced them. So, they make a big deal that they signed thousand yard rusher Diedrick Mills but let Dominique Rhymes go. The owner Murray Edwards is equally as bad if not worse than MLSE. Just doesn't care about the Stamps & their fans. They'll be lucky to draw 15000 fans a game.