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I see similarities between MOS and Campbell, like being tough and stubborn, but there’s no way O’Shea would ever go for 2 in that situation. No chance. He’s way too conservative. He kicks the convert every time there.

Wooo. Happy New Year Jets fans. 2 huge wins against the Riders or the NHL. 12 pts clear of them now too. very good game. Glad to see the power play connect finally. What a shot by Namets!

Had to look it all up to be sure... that my memory wasn't failing me... Allen had a career 56.3% completion rate and an 83.something QBR. Those don't look like HoF numbers at a glance. He had a HoF career, but few QBs get so many years to fill out their stats. Allen's completion % improved and trended upwards late in his career... without a string of later seasons of 60%+ his career accuracy would be downright brutal. Clearly his running ability buoyed his... less than stellar passing skills. He parlayed his athleticism and ever-growing experience into a very long career that allowed his passing yardage and TDs to pile up. It takes nothing away from his illustrious career to say his longevity helped him pile up the stats. All that said, it is unforgettable how Allen went off in his 40s, he sat a lot of critics down with his Grey Cup MVP followed by 5000 yards and CFL MOP the next season. He's the exception that proves some guys still can get it done well past the usual expiration date

O'Shea doesn't have this killer instinct to capitalize and kick an opponent while they're down it seems. Trying to imagine O'Shea gambling away a game on a 2-point convert, even with all the momentum on his side... I say he kicks a convert 99 times out of 100 As for the actual play itself, it really sounds to me like the refs screwed up: - #68 Decker, normally a LT, lined up as a TE and caught the 2 point convert, but was declared ineligible. At the same time, #70 Skipper, normally the 6th OL and normally the guy to declare as eligible, simply ran onto the field and played at LT (and is therefore automatically ineligible) - Video shows #68 Decker approach Ref Allen and declare while #70 Skipper runs directly onto the field well away from any refs (meaning to say #70 Skipper does not appear to declare as eligible at any time) - this is where the fuckup occurs... - Ref Allen announces on the mic so both teams press boxes clearly hear that #70 Skipper has declared as eligible - no mention of #68 at all, despite video very clearly indicating #70 DID NOT declare, and even more than likely #68 DID declare (we can't hear the audio but what else could he possibly be doing, nevermind #70 said nothing to the ref at all and just ran on by) - Afterwards, Ref Allen insists that #70 declared as eligible and then went and played in an inelligible position as LT anyways, and that he never once heard from #68 (again, video shows otherwise). Ref screwed up and there is video of it, but the NFL and their ref's are beyond reproach these past few years it seems. Coach Campbell has every right to be pissed imo.

Allen, Dunigan & Ham were the qbs in Edmonton in 1987. Imagine that? IIRC, Dunigan started the 87 Grey Cup & went out with an injury late in the first half. Allen came off the bench & beat the heavily favoured Argos that day. The Esks let Dunigan go to free agency & Allen took over. He never looked back as a starter. Some fans say that he was a **** qb his entire career when he wasn't. Do you know how hard it is to win 4 Grey Cups on 4 different teams? Four different head coaches, Four different OC's. Four different playbooks. Four different sets of teammates. Four different sets of talent. Four different cultures on every team. Second in all time CFL passing yards at 72,381 yards & 394 touchdown passes. He also rushed for 11,914 yards.

It happens on here every off season, a few members think that the Bombers have zero cap space meanwhile every other team in the league has infinite money to sign every free agent.

A good article about Winnipeg https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-winnipeg-what-to-know-wab-kinew/

Brossy is going to start, what are the odds that both teams will have a Gustavsson that's out on IR

well that it for the last game of the calendar year have a hopefully sane 2024

Yep Lancaster has some brutal stats for a legend of the game. Allen does deserve to be in the HoF, imo, if I'm being unclear.

Lowry ties it and gets his 100th career goal

There are similarities between MOS and Campbell for sure.

No, no one has ever said that. Just that he was a middling passer who got the yardage record through longevity.

Sure he can but Allen knew more about the game in general than Ford does now at the same time in their careers. Ford needs quality coaching from Jarious Jackson to catch up.

I particularly appreciated what he accomplished when he was older. Played within his limitations, aware that he had a good Argo team around him. As has been said, a kid like Ford could do that, given the training.

"Dru will likely look for the biggest possible deal " how can you read his mind? know his intentions? Brown has said in public he loves being mentored by zc ... that is very big

Yep, I know. Just like pushing back on your hyperbole once in a blue moon.

I recall a younger Damon Allen also taking off after his first or second read. The 'savvy vet' version of Allen played more along the lines of what you describe

Ford can be pretty good...He needs some decent coaching....a co-coordinator to work with him, and and tailor certain things to him, and be in the right environment...Not sure if it's optimal with Jones leading the team, but I can see him doing quite well with pieces all around him....mainly coaching and guidance

You're literally complaining about the team's 15th forward. Who by the way has 2 points in 2 games this season.

Ford's middle of the season was elite - MOP numbers. Once teams game planned him he couldn't do much. But he is still pretty new

I think that's a good comparison. Teams put the right pieces around Damon Allen, and won championships with him - even at 42 or whatever it was. No one asks how you won a championship (unless you're the 2007 Riders).

He's still learning... I have faith. If Damon Allen can be "something", what I've seen from Tre Ford tells me he can be at least that.

I love this city... honest! I'm glad this writer was able to go on a whirlwind tour of some of the most sanitized/manicured experiences a tourist can hope for while still getting a frank and honest tour of Higgins and Main, Bear Clan HQ, and some unscripted encounters to solidify the Winnipeg experience... "A man veered across the sidewalk, yelling at the air in front of him. Experiences like that make some people feel unsafe downtown...", a common every day experience that any common puff piece might have glossed over or omitted. Good read, I love the optimism for the future of Winnipeg (I need more of this myself), it's always nice when a visitor leaves with a generally positive impression.

Oshea is nothing like Dan Campbell. I don't see any similarities, until he starts talking about biting other teams knees.

there are 36 hours and 15 minutes left this year sometimes I hate the BBC links, but it's about Tom Wilkinson https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-65823240?at_format=link&at_campaign_type=owned&at_bbc_team=editorial&at_link_type=web_link&at_link_id=730AF550-A736-11EE-9EA1-76F8413A1DFE&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_ptr_name=twitter&at_link_origin=BBCBreaking&at_medium=social