17to85 Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 yeah and I was more pissed off than anyone when they dumped Glenn because Glenn could still play, Pierce can't play. There is no comeback story there. Best case scenario he gets his level of play back up to not as shitty as guys making their first career starts, but then you still have to deal with him being a walking injury case. Pierce is ****** in the head right now, he makes slow decisions and he is rendered completely ineffective by a blitz because of that hesitation. At least Goltz will give himself a chance by being able to move more and Hall seems to get the ball out of his hands quicker. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 He's the number one QB until someone takes it from him and thus far, no one has. I hope Hall does this week. I just dont think he will. completey disagree. He was #1 because it was given to him, the other two qbs have outperformed him this year and he has done absolutely nothing to earn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.A.B. Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 just want to note that Goltz loss came from 2 good defenses - BC and CGY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted August 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 So Goltz is the number one then? Oh... Mike, if I recall correctly, you were very pro-Buck until last season when you switched to Joey (as did I). Buck got us to the Grey Cup, then in came Crowton and whatever was going on between him and Lapo. It's all moot now because niether of us make the decision. But we've seen a QB get run out of town that everyone wished we had back and it just seems silly to repeat that mistake until a bonafide starter actually arrives. Even if Buck was gone, would we go into next season with Goltz & Hall and without a veteran? Never a bad idea to have a veteran, even if his best days are behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Perfect Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Wrong choice. And by the time the team realises it, the season will be truly lost. But I hope Hall has a hell of a game. I wouldn't say it's the wrong choice. It would have been the wrong choice to start Goltz but Hall showed enough to warrant another look. He just needs to learn not to force things when the team trails, and that will come with time. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogi Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Wrong choice. And by the time the team realises it, the season will be truly lost. But I hope Hall has a hell of a game. Judging by your posts and opinions you feel more like someone who hangs out at that other site . Anyways, thankfully we didn't go full circle back to Buck although I wouldn't be surprised if hes back in the lineup for LD. That's my biggest fear. I do NOT want to travel to Regina and have to sit through a game with that guy behind center. Mike, if you're going to the LDC to enjoy the game, you're gonna have a bad time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 So Goltz is the number one then? Oh... Mike, if I recall correctly, you were very pro-Buck until last season when you switched to Joey (as did I). Buck got us to the Grey Cup, then in came Crowton and whatever was going on between him and Lapo. It's all moot now because niether of us make the decision. But we've seen a QB get run out of town that everyone wished we had back and it just seems silly to repeat that mistake until a bonafide starter actually arrives. Even if Buck was gone, would we go into next season with Goltz & Hall and without a veteran? Never a bad idea to have a veteran, even if his best days are behind. You mean he was along for the ride. I was always very supportive of Buck when he was playing alright. I wanted him to succeed and while he was never an elite level QB for us, he at least did an okay job of managing things for us while he was in the lineup. Unfortunately, since the Banjo Bowl two years ago when he threw 5 picks and got lit up by Craig Butler, he's never been the same. His numbers since that game do not deserve my support. Buck has never been an on-field leader for us on a consistent basis and while he played at a higher level for us a few years ago, his mental and physical game has broken down so much that he's just no longer a viable option. The coaches spent all offseason designing a max protection offense to basically keep him healthy and in the game at the cost of production. It didn't work because it's not an effective scheme for his skillset or what's left of it. They took the reins off and let him play HIS game and it got him injured after one half of football. He's just not durable enough to play the style of football that gives him the best chance at being effective anymore. Keeping him safe comes at the cost of rendering him useless. Blue-urns and Floyd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 They gave Goltz 2 tries. Might as well see how Hall does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted August 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 If we had a better O line, few injuries on receiver and a better CFL style Offence designed to take advantage of his skillset, do you believe he'd fail? Or is it just the injury issue? Max Hall got hurt in one game this season. It happens to everyone. Buck was ready to come back. I wouldnt hang "injury" on him this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoochylde Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Darren Cameron @Darren_Cameron 24s Max Hall will start Saturday in Guelph against the @Ticats #Bombers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Great decision... Hall is our best option right now - plus we will start seeing if Crowton was the problem or if Hall is another interception machine... Get a fourth QB in camp already!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 According to Toth, the gave some thought to starting Goltz as well. That's really good news to me b/c it means Pierce wasn't even in the discussion. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzmore Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 So Goltz is the number one then? Oh... Mike, if I recall correctly, you were very pro-Buck until last season when you switched to Joey (as did I). Buck got us to the Grey Cup, then in came Crowton and whatever was going on between him and Lapo. It's all moot now because niether of us make the decision. But we've seen a QB get run out of town that everyone wished we had back and it just seems silly to repeat that mistake until a bonafide starter actually arrives. Even if Buck was gone, would we go into next season with Goltz & Hall and without a veteran? Never a bad idea to have a veteran, even if his best days are behind. Yup...it's a great idea to pay a guy starter's money when he's not good enough to start! Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Great decision... Hall is our best option right now - plus we will start seeing if Crowton was the problem or if Hall is another interception machine... Get a fourth QB in camp already!!! with Bellfail in as OC, I expect a call has already been placed to Quinton Porter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
road griller Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 According to Toth, the gave some thought to starting Goltz as well. That's really good news to me b/c it means Pierce wasn't even in the discussion. Hopefully he is #2, I have a feeling we will see the backup. Looks like the snack of choice will be Quacker Jacks for the next Killer griller Gameday Extravaganza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Our 2nd half adjustments have been atrocious all season, on the offensive side of the ball, so it'll be real interesting to see if we're actually able to get some momentum in the 2nd half... Wait, there's TWO halves? Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Great decision... Hall is our best option right now - plus we will start seeing if Crowton was the problem or if Hall is another interception machine... Get a fourth QB in camp already!!! This is what I want and right away...so we can release Buck. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braddman19 Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Impressed that the Bombers didn't cave to pressure and put Buck back in. Hall gets a 2nd start, and we can go from there. So could we put an end to the whole Buck should be #1 thing until after the friggin game at least. The team has made their choice, so accept it for whatever amount of time it lasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted August 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Im a diehard Bombers fan so I hope Max Hall lights it up on Saturday. Blue-urns and Noeller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Buck was bad last year and mediocre the year before.... Buck also had healthy receivers this season and could not perform..... Unknown poster is just trolling because no one normal would back buck this much. Just stirring the pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 does anyone know why Buck came in for one series? I couldn't figure that one out. He came close to getting a first down so that was at least something positive. If he had thrown the ball to Denmark properly we would have gotten the first down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Perfect Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 does anyone know why Buck came in for one series? I couldn't figure that one out. He came close to getting a first down so that was at least something positive. If he had thrown the ball to Denmark properly we would have gotten the first down. Hall got hurt on the previous series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Even if we don't get the W this week, here's hoping Hall shows continued progress, and does enough to earn continued starts. At this point, it's all we can really ask for. Wins are a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted August 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Buck was bad last year and mediocre the year before.... Buck also had healthy receivers this season and could not perform..... Unknown poster is just trolling because no one normal would back buck this much. Just stirring the pot. I'm a troll? Id tell you to GFY but that probably violates some board rules. Funny how "doesnt share same opinion" always = "troll". HA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Great decision... Hall is our best option right now - plus we will start seeing if Crowton was the problem or if Hall is another interception machine... Get a fourth QB in camp already!!! with Bellfail in as OC, I expect a call has already been placed to Quinton Porter. I was kind of wondering about that... but one would almost wonder if Bellefuille has had enough of the Porter experiment - he probably shudders when he looks at Goltz's film as he's pretty close to a Porter-style QB... Then again, who else is out there...? Not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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