SPuDS Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 This same horrific group of coordinators got us off to one hell of a start, did they not? Its not like we were 2-16.. If they are back, so be it... whos to say this is even the case yet, i mean the dust hasnt even finished falling yet chicken littles.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 This same horrific group of coordinators got us off to one hell of a start, did they not? Its not like we were 2-16.. If they are back, so be it... whos to say this is even the case yet, i mean the dust hasnt even finished falling yet chicken littles.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Mike O'Shea said on Hustler & Lawless Friday that he hasn't finished his coaches evaluations because he hasn't figured out the way he wants to do it. I just went "What???" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 This same horrific group of coordinators got us off to one hell of a start, did they not? Its not like we were 2-16.. If they are back, so be it... whos to say this is even the case yet, i mean the dust hasnt even finished falling yet chicken littles.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 I'm enjoying the rational discussion in this thread... Bigblue204, Noeller, Mr Dee and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 The Bombers drive us nuts. Truly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBieber Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 History of players not liking George Cortez has often led to a change of scenery. Not sure he would have been back in 2014 if the Riders didn't win last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzmore Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 The crying and wailing is unbelievable. It isn't a fact yet only rumor. Mark F, SPuDS, Noeller and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 From this article in the Vancouver Sun from June, it sounds like Washington may have been O'Shea's first choice: “When Mike O’Shea became the head coach, they needed a defensive coordinator,” Benevides said of Winnipeg. “I just knew, from what I’d heard, that if Mark was available that would have been a done deal. I knew if there wasn’t a situation provided for Mark, we would lose him. I didn’t want that to occur." http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Lions+assistant+Mark+Washington+wants+better/9919966/story.html#ixzz3Kd9eAjxy Etch was about 4th or 5th choice, wasn't he. It will be interesting to see if O'Shea will want to go after his original choice or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 @BomberJetsTalk: As per @PentonKirk, sounds like Bombers will keep Bellefeuille. Cortez unlikely.Another horrible decision by my favorite team. Disagree. I like the idea of wanting improvement but there will always be someone somewhere that somebody would Argue is better than the guy you have. I don't think marcel was a negative thus I am fine giving him another season. Walters needs upgrade the talent. Atomic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 This same horrific group of coordinators got us off to one hell of a start, did they not? Its not like we were 2-16.. If they are back, so be it... whos to say this is even the case yet, i mean the dust hasnt even finished falling yet chicken littles.. Dude, who cares about a good start? Besides, MB really benefitted from Etchevary's defence the first 6 games. Only reason we won so many to start is because the defence was scoring so much and holding teams to very little. That being said.... Etch always looks like a genius in the first 6, then tanks... Therefore, it's not only MB that needs to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Marcel was a poor to average OC in Saskatchewan, Montreal, Hamilton and now Winnipeg. How many chances do you give him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Bob Irving's comments not consistent with Penton's suggestion that the Bombers would not go after Cortez. SPuDS and Noeller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 From this article in the Vancouver Sun from June, it sounds like Washington may have been O'Shea's first choice: “When Mike O’Shea became the head coach, they needed a defensive coordinator,” Benevides said of Winnipeg. “I just knew, from what I’d heard, that if Mark was available that would have been a done deal. I knew if there wasn’t a situation provided for Mark, we would lose him. I didn’t want that to occur." http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Lions+assistant+Mark+Washington+wants+better/9919966/story.html#ixzz3Kd9eAjxy Etch was about 4th or 5th choice, wasn't he. It will be interesting to see if O'Shea will want to go after his original choice or not. edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted December 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Bob Irving's comments not consistent with Penton's suggestion that the Bombers would not go after Cortez. Interesting. What did Bob say? I do know Penton is tight with Walters and Irving with Wade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Bob Irving's comments not consistent with Penton's suggestion that the Bombers would not go after Cortez. Interesting. What did Bob say? I do know Penton is tight with Walters and Irving with Wade. I'm not going to try and repeat the exact wording because I don't remember but basically that when Saskatchewan makes their staff changes official, it could cause Winnipeg to explore the idea of bringing Cortez and/or Hall aboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted December 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Bob Irving's comments not consistent with Penton's suggestion that the Bombers would not go after Cortez. Interesting. What did Bob say? I do know Penton is tight with Walters and Irving with Wade. I'm not going to try and repeat the exact wording because I don't remember but basically that when Saskatchewan makes their staff changes official, it could cause Winnipeg to explore the idea of bringing Cortez and/or Hall aboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Could somebody give a link or point me in the direction of where Penton said all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted December 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Could somebody give a link or point me in the direction of where Penton said all of this. Penton said it in his pre-Grey Cup online chat yesterday. sweep the leg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 If chapdelaine is available, he would be my first pick... Cortez would be nice but bellefuile will likely survive the offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-F-F-C Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Bob Irving's comments not consistent with Penton's suggestion that the Bombers would not go after Cortez. Interesting. What did Bob say? I do know Penton is tight with Walters and Irving with Wade. I'm not going to try and repeat the exact wording because I don't remember but basically that when Saskatchewan makes their staff changes official, it could cause Winnipeg to explore the idea of bringing Cortez and/or Hall aboard. Interesting but what Bob said seems to be his opinion on what might happen where Penton's tweet seems to be confirming a discussion he had with someone within the WBB organization. But what I find more interesting is that Penton doesn't mention Etchevery. Why did the team go out of the way to say MB's safe but not Etchevery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueandgold Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Bob Irving's comments not consistent with Penton's suggestion that the Bombers would not go after Cortez. Interesting. What did Bob say? I do know Penton is tight with Walters and Irving with Wade. I'm not going to try and repeat the exact wording because I don't remember but basically that when Saskatchewan makes their staff changes official, it could cause Winnipeg to explore the idea of bringing Cortez and/or Hall aboard. I'd take Hall AND Cortez over Bellfool and Etch without thinking twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 I think Bellefeuille gets a mulligan due to the horrible O-line he inherited and was the worst in the league for most of the year. That really falls on Walters and so I am willing to give Bellefeuille another go at it even though I am not completely sold on him. Etcheverry is another matter altogether and has earned a road map and apple. I still think (and hope) that O'Shea is the right person for head coach but he has to prove that this year. B-F-F-C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrg Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 @BomberJetsTalk: As per @PentonKirk, sounds like Bombers will keep Bellefeuille. Cortez unlikely.Another horrible decision by my favorite team. Disagree. I like the idea of wanting improvement but there will always be someone somewhere that somebody would Argue is better than the guy you have. I don't think marcel was a negative thus I am fine giving him another season. Walters needs upgrade the talent. I have a position contrary to yours, but am unable to express it in a wildly irrational manner, so it probably does not fit in with the tone of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holoman Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 I think Bellefeuille gets a mulligan due to the horrible O-line he inherited and was the worst in the league for most of the year. That really falls on Walters and so I am willing to give Bellefeuille another go at it even though I am not completely sold on him. Etcheverry is another matter altogether and has earned a road map and apple. I still think (and hope) that O'Shea is the right person for head coach but he has to prove that this year. Not defending Etch, but if one gets a mulligan, the other should. Lets not forget Kuale playing LB which is the equivalent of a crappy o-line. Lets not forget as well as Wild was lost for a good chuck of the season, as well as Zack Anderson going down. Our sack total just stopped once he was gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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